Everyone's favorite Claptrap simulator is almost here! Also, there may be some guns.
There have been a smattering of thread about Borderlands 2 around here, but they all died out because (I assume) there wasn't much to say. Now that the release date is almost here, I figure it'd be helpful to have a thread to discuss the game/show off loot/set up parties, that kind of thing. Not sure how much we can do right now, but we can at least show off skill trees and that sort of thing.
I for one am really excited about this game; the first one was a ton of fun, and it looks like they're taking the criticisms people had of the first (gamespy multiplayer, not a great story, terrible ending) and really improving on them. And, of course, the loot looks even nicer than before, and shields and grenades are getting crazier, which is nice to see.
I managed to get a good few hours of game play on it at a pre-launch party (also with free beer and pizza) friday and thoroughly enjoyed it. I got to play as the Siren and Ninja and generally had a great time, good enough to pre-order and pre-load it on steam.
I am looking forward to the release which also coincides nicely with my last day of work before going back to uni..
I have a feeling it's going to be a while before I get to play it, because it's coming out at the same time as Torchlight 2. I've ordered a physical disk version of Borderlands 2, whereas I have Torchlight 2 preloaded on Steam ready to play on Friday, so I'll be playing that game first...and I don't generally like to play multiple games at the same time, so B2 will have to wait for T2!
Got my copy preloaded already. A friend of mine and I are actually thinking of doing a runthrough, but likely need more meatshields teammates. I'll be being Zer0, he'll be being the Siren.
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I've got it pre-ordered, but for the 360. I don't think either my fiancee or I will be able to pick it up on release day, so I'm going to be waiting a few extra days.
I'll probably start with Zero, but am really looking forward to Gaige
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My younger brother (with whom I'm splitting a 4-pack) is undecided between Axton and Zer0 (his main was Roland in B1, but Zer0 looks/is SO AWESOME), so I'll probably be playing Cataclysm-Maya or Rampage-Salvador at release.
I'm sad there's no more Phasewalking, but I get it. Lilith was hard core OP in the story mode.
I think the Phaselock is a little gimped, but I haven't played the game yet. Besides, I'm thinking about playing as Zero first anyway. My wife and I pre-ordered so she could play as the Mechro-mancer. We're super excited.
I'm disappointed that we couldn't afford the Super-Deluxe do-whatsit with all the fancy gamer swag, but c'est la vie.
My younger brother (with whom I'm splitting a 4-pack) is undecided between Axton and Zer0 (his main was Roland in B1, but Zer0 looks/is SO AWESOME), so I'll probably be playing Cataclysm-Maya or Rampage-Salvador at release.
Zer0 is a parody of brooding and mysterious anime/comic book anti-heroes. His hidden face and past, sword fighting, haiku recital, and ninja motif all scream "brooding!" He's intentionally awesome. He's also introduced as "Zer0 as... A number".
I've found good pairings of classes:
Axton and Maya for a turret in front of a Phaselock bubble.
Salvador and Maya for extra firepower on the Phaselock bubble.
Axton and Zer0 to draw enemies to the decoy moving towards a concealed turret.
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I'm surprised no one wants to play Salvador. Among my usual gaming group, I always end up playing the tanky character, the guy who can reliably stay up so any given fight doesn't go completely sideways. This guy fits the bill and he looks fun to play.
Is wielding two of any gun the "sexiest" looking ability, like magic, turrets, or a sword? No, but it's functionally going to be awesome. Ontop of that I will constantly flip the double bird at everything in game, so that's a visual win in my book.
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No idea what I'm going to play yet, but I'm excited.
Still, I kind of wish there was a way to play skill trees from the first game. Not that the new ones won't be sweet, but I'll miss my god mode Roland with infinite ammo, health regen, and a Curaga Shotgun.
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Is wielding two of any gun the "sexiest" looking ability, like magic, turrets, or a sword? No, but it's functionally going to be awesome. Ontop of that I will constantly flip the double bird at everything in game, so that's a visual win in my book.
If you ask me, here's how I plan on playing the game:
Maya (always been good with support and elementalists)
Salvador (more dakka)
Gaige (I'll be done with Salvy before she's out)
Axton (not really all that interesting; like Roland, he's just generic)
Zer0 (let's face it: EVERYONE IS GOING TO PLAY AS ZER0. He's brooding, he's quiet, and he's a freaking space-ninja)
Whatever else Gearbox puts out post-launch.
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I'm surprised no one wants to play Salvador. Among my usual gaming group, I always end up playing the tanky character, the guy who can reliably stay up so any given fight doesn't go completely sideways. This guy fits the bill and he looks fun to play.
Is wielding two of any gun the "sexiest" looking ability, like magic, turrets, or a sword? No, but it's functionally going to be awesome. Ontop of that I will constantly flip the double bird at everything in game, so that's a visual win in my book.
My theory on that is that the Gunzerker's skill tree looks like it is the weakest at a glance. Many of his buffs and the like seem a bit smaller when compared to the kinds of numbers Axton and Zer0 generate. In particular, Axton has some crazy nice skills and a lot of versatility. The thing is, being able to dual-wield two Legendary guns and then get skill bonuses on both guns kind of makes up for that, but at a mere glance it isn't that apparent.
I'm playing Axton first simple because he has the most fire rate increases, and I want to see how fast I can get one Vladof going. After that, I'm going to play Salvador, then Zer0, then Gaige, and finally Maya. I think all the characters are interesting, though.
Kind of disappointed they gave all the team-leader stuff to the siren, immortal health-machine soldier was fun.
She's got the support role. The Commando now focuses on extremely aggressive offense while the Gunzerker can not only tank, but also put out a lot of damage.
My theory on that is that the Gunzerker's skill tree looks like it is the weakest at a glance. Many of his buffs and the like seem a bit smaller when compared to the kinds of numbers Axton and Zer0 generate. In particular, Axton has some crazy nice skills and a lot of versatility. The thing is, being able to dual-wield two Legendary guns and then get skill bonuses on both guns kind of makes up for that, but at a mere glance it isn't that apparent.
And then you start playing around with the skill-tree builder, and realize that with 5/5 in Inconceivable and 5 Shots or 6, a Gunzerker can potentially milk two to eight hundred shots out of every hundred ammo, before taking into account Gunzerk's built-in ammo regen. Assuming the progression holds steady, with a class mod boosting you to 9/5 in one (or, cog forbid, BOTH) of those skills, as little as 5% of your shots will consume ammo when in critical condition, and far more will give it back (9/5 5 Shots by itself lets you fire each bullet nearly ten times over while active). Similarly, 5/5 Last Longer and Yippee Ki Yay will drastically extend your Gunzerk time -- in the release trailer, once Salvador enters Gunzerk in the fight versus the Bolivian Army, he's not going to leave it until either he or they are all dead.
Moreover on Salvador, his health regen abilities are nuts and that's what I'm looking for. If I play around with the Brawn and Rampage trees right, I should be able to have a reduced cooldown Gunzerk that instantly fills my health, gives me a massive damage reduction buff, gives me good health regen, and lets the rest of the team fill their roles best without taking as much fire they otherwise would.
Truth be told, the Rampage tree does look really fun and I'm likely going to explore that too when I play. The Gun Lust tree looks a bit hit or miss but the roll over damage plus the possible 80% damage increase to the last bullet of any given magazine (buff adjusted for the size of the magazine) plus the added damage and crit of switching to a weapon plus the damage bonus of gunzerking with the same type of guns could make you a serious cannon in a literal sense. That takes a bit of setup that's hard to achieve with the auto-loader perk but it's out there.
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-- .NET Fix --
When you first start Borderlands 2 through Steam you will have a .NET repairer or installer. When it is finished it will say you need to restart your computer. Just click "RESTART LATER" and the BL2 splash screen will come up.
To prevent it from doing this on every start up through Steam you will want to go to your Steam Library, Right click on Borderlands 2, Click on the Local Files tab, Select Verify Integrity of Game Cache... It should find 1 file missing and fix that file...
You will not need to restart your computer through this entire process.... Hopefully this will stay near the top or get stickied for the wave of people having issues as they get home from work/school later today...
-- Alternative .NET Fix --
epsiblivion has posted a folder permissions issue that may very well help everyone...
I HAVE FOUND A FASTER WAY TO FIX THE .NET PROBLEM
on gearbox forum the guy says to go the your install folder and make it not read-only. do this by
going to C:\program files\steam\steamapps\common and right click on borderlands 2.
click on properties
uncheck read-only under attributes
click ok
now relaunch the game
.net should update one more time
game launches after without asking for restart.
quit game. relaunch. no .net update.
play BL2
-- OTHER ISSUES / COMMON QUESTIONS --
GreenManGaming (and maybe GameStop) pre orders are currently not receiving the pre-order keys. It is a well known issue at this time. Be patient and wait. Edit - It appears Pre Order bonuses are starting to appear for Steam players now.
Golden Keys appear to be 1 time use per account (not per character). When a player uses a key in a Co-op/Multiplayer game it appears to use other players keys as well should those players have a Golden Key.
GearBox Shift - When you sign up and confirm your email you will not receive an email with a Shift key. The next time you continue your game you will receive golden keys automatically. I received 3 but I'm seeing people with different numbers of keys...
If you have a Borderlands 1 save file on your computer you can get Loyalty Perks. These are additional customizations for the characters. No additional perks are known at this time.
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Well I only had about an hour to play yesterday. Played the gunzerker but didn't get to level 5 to get any of the special abilities yet. Didn't get to Roland yet, but I was heading that direction.
Feel of the first game is still there. But I haven't got to play with anyone else yet and obviously haven't had a chance to see much of the game or gameplay.
I'm playing on the PC and my Steam name is also Erloas there. I'm only on the L4D steam group so far.
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