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Old 10-08-2012, 01:18 AM   Top  -  End  -  #91
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My problem with both Sjlver and Morcleons submissions is that they read as if the whole PC was designed without the slightest bit of attention paid to the goddesses, and then their allegiance was determined as an afterthought. Looking at Sabrina, you would see that her worshippers are not warriors, yet both PCs were designed as such. In this game, design flows from goddess to concept, and both of those seem reversed.
The only data I've found about Sabrina is that she's neutral and that all the goddesses of love expect significant devotion... Where's the rest of the information?

I suppose I could make a sorcerer||something, if you felt it more appropriate. Although why can't warriors worship a neutral goddess of love?

Also, an introspective vignette/quasi-background that's not quite complete, seeing as I can't find any significant setting info (or is it in an obvious place and I just fail at reading?):
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:54 AM   Top  -  End  -  #92
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I think you could make a warrior of Sabrina, yes. But with she being a goddess of love, this warrior would be more apt to grapple the opponent instead of hitting him with a pointy stick, for example.

I built my char concept around the idea of neutralizing the target, rarely killing them.
Plus, consider there are many out-of-the-box ways of being a warrior. One example, the druid. Seriously, 17 levels of druid is more powerful than many optimized melee builds I've seen in this forum. And a druid fits Sabrina follower role quite well.
But maybe the prime example is the bard. People rarely like to roleplay a bard, though.

Being gestalt open many possibilities. Monk is usually one of the weaker classes, unless you gestalt monk;scout//cleric, for example. You could be a tracker, healer, supporter, controller and tank. You could pump your wisdom without looking back and rely on cleric buffs to make up for turning you into a more warriorlike character.

Well, your character, your choice. It's just that maybe you will have to save your psychotic killing machine for other games. (I know, we all love psychotic killing machines).
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:55 AM   Top  -  End  -  #94
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I think you could make a warrior of Sabrina, yes. But with she being a goddess of love, this warrior would be more apt to grapple the opponent instead of hitting him with a pointy stick, for example.

I built my char concept around the idea of neutralizing the target, rarely killing them.
Plus, consider there are many out-of-the-box ways of being a warrior. One example, the druid. Seriously, 17 levels of druid is more powerful than many optimized melee builds I've seen in this forum. And a druid fits Sabrina follower role quite well.
But maybe the prime example is the bard. People rarely like to roleplay a bard, though.

Being gestalt open many possibilities. Monk is usually one of the weaker classes, unless you gestalt monk;scout//cleric, for example. You could be a tracker, healer, supporter, controller and tank. You could pump your wisdom without looking back and rely on cleric buffs to make up for turning you into a more warriorlike character.

Well, your character, your choice. It's just that maybe you will have to save your psychotic killing machine for other games. (I know, we all love psychotic killing machines).
...after reading that I think I'll switch to my second concept. Sorcerer/beguiler. Personality will remain overly enthusiastic and child-like, though without the psychosis and with a bit of a prankster mentality. Acceptable to the world?

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Old 10-08-2012, 03:50 PM   Top  -  End  -  #95
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Okay, after looking over the situation, I have decided to choose the following entries.
Selena (Dudu) as a follower of Sabrina
Setsuna (Morcleon) as a follower of Sabrina
Coquika (TGS) as a follower of Tishtina (good girl)
Seraciel (Snowbluff) as a follower of Tishtina (bad girl)

This evens out the party with Atareth and Coquika as one side of the Tishtinians, Seraciel and Dot as the other side of the Tishtinians, Selena and Setsuna as followers of Sabrina, and Drisae and Taleira as followers of Nocticula. Melinda, of course, stands as a follower of all three, and the first priestess of the Triune.
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:12 PM   Top  -  End  -  #96
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Awesome.



One last thing. I need to give a finishing touch in my build, and it's about the Planar Binding spell.
Planar Binding is extremely flavourful but also extremely exploitable (My intention is to play nicely, obviously). And I currently have it on Selena (except the lesser one). Some DMs shun Planar Binding like they shun Polymorph, which is compreensible when the player is a munchkin.

So, I want to know if you, DM (DMs?) are okay with this spell. If you are, I'll change her forbidden school from abjuration to necromancy. I just realized that most of the cool necromancy spells don't fit the character at all, so it won't be a big loss.
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Seraciel and Dot as the other side of the Tishtinians.
Excellent!

Dot seems like a pretty awesome teammate as well. I can't wait to make my entrance.
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I am okay with Planar Binding. Remember however, that you have a demon goddess as one of your patrons, and she is not going to take kindly to you abusing other demons. Abuse of C/G outsiders will also not win you any points. Beating on devils and L/G types is perfectly okay.
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One last thing. I need to give a finishing touch in my build, and it's about the Planar Binding spell.
Planar Binding is extremely flavourful but also extremely exploitable (My intention is to play nicely, obviously). And I currently have it on Selena (except the lesser one). Some DMs shun Planar Binding like they shun Polymorph, which is compreensible when the player is a munchkin.
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I am okay with Planar Binding. Remember however, that you have a demon goddess as one of your patrons, and she is not going to take kindly to you abusing other demons. Abuse of C/G outsiders will also not win you any points. Beating on devils and L/G types is perfectly okay.
This is funny because my character will be making a habit of banishing opposing outsiders. Juxtaposition for the win!
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Can I have a lantern archon as a familiar? It will be TN, as that fits better than LG. Perhaps a "fallen" archon...?

Do familiars gain actual HD for feats and skills?

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Morcleon, may we call you Furude in character? We have like 3 new S named people (Me, you, Selena).
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Sure. Furude-san (or -chama!), preferably.
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Sure. Furude-san (or -chama!), preferably.
Affirmative... but I hope to make that a '-kun' very quickly.

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Allright, changes made. Now necromancy is forbidden to her, hope I don't find many undeads.

Now my little girl is pure danger! Well, not her, she's pretty frail and I hope the baddies don't hit her.
I plan on using Greater Planar Binding. The two most thematic/powerful planar it comes to my mind are the chaotic evil Death Slaad and the Horned Devil.

Horned Devil

The Horned Devil is the archetype of the... devil! He's lawful evil to the core, uses a spiked chain that stun opponents, can fly (average), some spell like abilities and even a fear aura. And he will be our b1tch (if I suceed on binding him, that is).


[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]Death Slaad[/color]

(the smaller one)
This one is more suited for low profile missions. He can shape himself into any humanoid, which suits better in the many ocasions when I can't just waltz with Diablo by my side (most occasions, I think). Slaads are the embodiment of chaos, but the Death Slaad are also corrupted with evil. They're the meanest of all Slaadi.
Some of his spell like abilities are a bit nonsensical to be at will, though. Like finger of death! Or perhaps you also find that fireball at will doesn't make sense, ok (it's not that powerful at higher levels and I don't plan on using this one too much). Check Monster Manual page 231 to see what features you want to block to keep the game more balanced.

Plus, you can find Horned Devil at page 56 and decide what he can and what he cannot do. Personally, I think that if you let the monsters just as they are they'll take the fun away. Perhaps only allowing at will to lvl2 spells or below. Or just banning at will spells. It's up to you.
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Uh... aren't we allied with the CE demons? Could we not just ask them for help? Well... I guess Slaad don't count...

EDIT: Don't worry about packing all of the dispels. I am carrying like 9, and a Lesser Rod of Chaining. And a Wand of Arcane Turmoil. Just in case. I get +5 for dispels as well.
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Hello to all my new companions in violence, trickery, and seduction.
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I don't think much of trickery. The best way to manipulate people the way that let's you tell everyone exactly what you are doing and the will be POWERLESS to do anything about it.


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I don't think much of trickery. The best way to manipulate people the way that let's you tell everyone exactly what you are doing and the will be POWERLESS to do anything about it.


Ala Doc Scratch. Mr. Vanilla Milkshake
Fixed that for you.

Incidentally, as I'm working my way through the IC threads, Is there a particular path of character insertion we should be prepping for?
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Fixed that for you.

Incidentally, as I'm working my way through the IC threads, Is there a particular path of character insertion we should be prepping for?
TY! I'm more of a Vriska person (SHE'S AN AWESOME SCORP LIKE ME!), but other people's method are great, too.

Debbie will introduce us after they finish with this total... 'expletive' ... I think. She'll give us a heads up when we are good to go.
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Like Snow said, I have an insertion point all ready for you after they finish with this. They are headed for the temple of Glendira, and since you all have arcane talents, you could easily be studying there. The faith of Glendira are the greatest teachers of the arcane arts.
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Affirmative... but I hope to make that a '-kun' very quickly.

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Wouldn't it be -chan? -kun is generally used for boys and for one's students.

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Wouldn't it be -chan? -kun is generally used for boys and for one's students.

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Although I'll settle for -chan for now.

EDIT: Screw it. Between you and Selena we have enough mind mages. I'm banning Enchantment in favor of focus specializing Abjuration, since I have no enchantments anyway. Seriously none. A few [Mind-Affecting] Illusions, but 0 (ZERO) Enchantments in my spellbook anyway.
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Excellent!

Dot seems like a pretty awesome teammate as well. I can't wait to make my entrance.
IC, Dot's affiliation to Tishtina is still under wraps (unless I've missed a note from Debbie), but she'll be delighted to see you nonetheless!
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Cakers! You're an Arcanist and you handle teleports right?
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Yep, that's it exactly.

Oh, and Dudu, in case it helps with your choices of bindings: Dot's been pretty open about the bindings she maintains, and has had from the outset a 'menagerie' of a Bar-lgura demon, succubus and death slaad. I try to keep them in the background, and trust Debbie to let me know if I step over a line.
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Yep, that's it exactly.

Oh, and Dudu, in case it helps with your choices of bindings: Dot's been pretty open about the bindings she maintains, and has had from the outset a 'menagerie' of a Bar-lgura demon, succubus and death slaad. I try to keep them in the background, and trust Debbie to let me know if I step over a line.
Wow. Now you guys are making me want to try out binding.

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The first time you bind is free. After that you start paying...with souls.
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I know what I am talking about.

Although I'll settle for -chan for now.

EDIT: Screw it. Between you and Selena we have enough mind mages. I'm banning Enchantment in favor of focus specializing Abjuration, since I have no enchantments anyway. Seriously none. A few [Mind-Affecting] Illusions, but 0 (ZERO) Enchantments in my spellbook anyway.
Then you're not loosing anything.

I just wonder how can you pull 3 abjurations/level. I'm not an abjuration expert, always used abjuration as a support school.



Plus, how is the party now? Considering everyone, is 3 followers of each Goddess?



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You also employed the Death Slaad? They seem darn powerful to me.
And also the Horned Devil. What with the DC 27 stun for each attack? That's a killer.
But calling seems risky and difficult to pull off. So I may fill my day slots with spells that enhance my chances for the day I call one of them. (Have you tried Moment of Prescience spell? Looks fantastic for this task.)
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It says something about this group and the game that I consider the ability to cast as a 16th level wizard to be the least interesting thing about Coquika.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:24 PM   Top  -  End  -  #120
Dudu
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Default Re: Recruiting for Three Goddesses

Why do you think your caster counterpart wouldn't be so interesting?
It's always interesting. A team of casters! (with some devils helping against their will)

It just ocurred to me. Could I do the whole planar binding thing in the OOC thread and consider that Selena enters the adventure with a devil by her side? (if she suceeds)

That way we would save some time. I plan to bind him for 16 days (my CL), so the devil would have 15 days to serve, since the first day was before entering the adventure de facto.

Any suggestion on planars to bind? I intend to bind a Death Slaad.
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