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Old 09-25-2012, 04:16 PM   Top  -  End  -  #61
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UW? University of Washington? Wisconsin? Wyoming?

What is RIT? R Institute of Technology?
Rochester Institute of Technology, arguably the best Computer (My major was Applied Networking and Systems Admininstration) school around. I hated it.

University of Wisconsin. Finished at Uw- Stevens Point, where Wellness was born. Or so they like to claim. I actually got some of the founders of the wellness movement at professors befor they retired and were replaced.

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I'm not sure about that. I don't think other students there had particularly more luck in the dating world than students at other schools. (I wouldn't know- I dated the same woman all four years, whom I've since married). I guess it could be different for alumni than for current students.

Whatever "reaction" students/alumni can get with the name of a school (or a job, or a salary) is always temporary. You always have to back it up- with character, intelligence, personality...
Harvard and Princeton, impressive. It is more of a temporary reaction that can fade once evidence of your capabilities hit the floor. I've seen enough people gt I to private schools with more money than brains, while I've also seen genius in in a Public School system. Hell, my favorite Proffs were not from private school, and I had some terrible Proffs there.


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Agreed but if one is looking for a short effect, it is a powerful thing. Dating/Mating requires depth of soul. Hooking up requires a sudden attraction for what ever reason, being it generated by alcohol or sudden admiration for earning potential.

You have some points, but name dropping a college \= panty dropping IMO. You at better off in the gym then busting your ass to get into private school is to meet someone from an attraction standpoint. Now, if you want reach outside of your looks stratification, money is a huge aid.



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And I've never had a boyfriend or even kissed anyone, so I don't think that qualifies much. Besides, when you're around other people from the same school it doesn't exactly mean anything special, since everyone goes there too.
Coffee! I'm sure you have your reasons, but don't be too busy planning your life that you forget to live it. <Exit Soap Box>
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:23 PM   Top  -  End  -  #62
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Zman is right; you do see people who clearly got in via legacy or something, or they get in and then decide that "C's get degrees," and so slack off. I don't really see that much in my major, because I'm on the prevet track, and my friend who goes to MIT says he's barely found instances of that at all.

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Nah, it's not that. The one guy I've ever had real interest in didn't like me back, and I don't think anyone's ever had interest in me. I usually don't pay much attention to that, and if someone started flirting with or hitting on me or asked me out I honestly wouldn't know how to respond. I've already come to terms that I'm socially inept at this sort of thing and will probably be alone for a long time. It's another thing when other people make fun of me for it. I don't care if it was last year, having my previous roommate and hallmate say out loud, while I'm in the room, "Man, can you ever imagine what would happen if Coffee brought a guy back here?" and then laugh about it hurt.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:30 PM   Top  -  End  -  #63
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It's another thing when other people make fun of me for it. I don't care if it was last year, having my previous roommate and hallmate say out loud, while I'm in the room, "Man, can you ever imagine what would happen if Coffee brought a guy back here?" and then laugh about it hurt.
That's heartbreaking (and cruel).

So I guess in some ways (high Int, low Cha, like you said) you're similar to Nuts. The biggest difference is that you're never at a loss for words!
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:38 PM   Top  -  End  -  #64
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Oh yeah. That's why I said I have the easiest time playing high intelligence, low charisma characters. I've got a 17 or 18 intelligence, a 13ish wisdom, and dumped everything else. It sucks, but I'm trying not to let it bother me too much.

*Sigh* Yeah, last year's roommate thing wasn't fun at all. I know I'm not the easiest person to live with, but they were real jerks, and nearly made me cry a few times.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:40 PM   Top  -  End  -  #65
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Yeah Coffee, that is really just cruel :(. I had a pretty similar experience going through secondary school (ages 13-18) and you're right, being ignored isn't as bad as someone digging the knife in.

But you're interesting and fun! You've found friends, which is one of the hardest part of life.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:43 PM   Top  -  End  -  #66
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That wasn't the most hurtful thing one of them said though. I do know that at least a couple of times the other hallmate actually told them to lay off and stop being so mean to me. It was last year though, and now I don't see them anymore, thankfully.

And yeah, I've made lots of friends in the past few years! So there may be hope for me yet.
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #67
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If there was hope for me, there's hope for anyone. :)
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:26 PM   Top  -  End  -  #68
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@zman: I agree with your analogy: College name dropping = panty dropping. It leads to the same short, unsatisfying encounter.

@Coffee: That was the saddest thing I read today. I am so sorry you got stuck with such douched bags. Listen, the worst thing in relationship, is trying to force them. Just life your life, it is ok to plan but leave some space for impromptu things. Seize the good opportunities when they arise but do not despair if none come for a long time. And remember, each pair of eyes in this world as a matching set of eyes soul mate waiting to connect.

In the meantime, remember you have friends!
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Old 09-25-2012, 06:57 PM   Top  -  End  -  #69
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Oh yeah. That's why I said I have the easiest time playing high intelligence, low charisma characters. I've got a 17 or 18 intelligence, a 13ish wisdom, and dumped everything else. It sucks, but I'm trying not to let it bother me too much.

*Sigh* Yeah, last year's roommate thing wasn't fun at all. I know I'm not the easiest person to live with, but they were real jerks, and nearly made me cry a few times.
It's kind of funny, we are both playing the DnD versions of our own personal statlines.

I have high physical stats, highest being Str, a High Int, good Charisma, and dumped Wisdom. Hell, Valen is pretty close to who I would be in a Fantasy setting.

I can see how an encounter like that would really hurt. Many people are nothing but mean spitefull shells that live by trying to bring others into the same depths they live in. Be yourself, have fun, keep working out, and be who you are meant to be; the rest will fall into place. That being said, don't be afraid to grow by expanding your horizons, and foster a little self confidence, it will go along way. Trust me. You've got a lot more going for you then most, you are intelligent and ambitious, don't be afraid to grow and challenge yourself and your personal weaknesses even if change is scary.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:01 PM   Top  -  End  -  #70
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Shiny's stats aren't mine. For starters, Dex is my dump stat.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:05 PM   Top  -  End  -  #71
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Shiny's stats aren't mine. For starters, Dex is my dump stat.
Lol, do we have a cuts in the mix?

And is anyone going to try and start a monster races war, or has that plan been forgotten about in lieu of saving Linwood?
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:07 PM   Top  -  End  -  #72
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Lol, do we have a cuts in the mix?

And is anyone going to try and start a monster races war, or has that plan been forgotten about in lieu of saving Linwood?
Shiny still really wants to do that. The only question is whether we drop the soldiers off in Linwood first.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:09 PM   Top  -  End  -  #73
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And a fantastic karate sensei - I'm grading for my black belt in three weeks' time.
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Lol, do we have a cuts in the mix?
I don't know what this means.
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And is anyone going to try and start a monster races war, or has that plan been forgotten about in lieu of saving Linwood?
Didn't we already do that?

And thanks guys. This day's been ****ty, so I really appreciate the kindness.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:21 PM   Top  -  End  -  #76
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I don't know what this means.
Klutz When spelled correctly with a "k" won't get autocorrcted into oblivion.
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So you're a klutz when typing on the Ipad?

How are the soldiers going to keep up?
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:23 PM   Top  -  End  -  #78
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Didn't we already do that?

And thanks guys. This day's been ****ty, so I really appreciate the kindness.
You fooled the one Orc who was let free, Shiny had far grander pans.
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So you're a klutz when typing on the Ipad?

How are the soldiers going to keep up?
Or how much will you guys slow down to keep pace with them? They can only move so fast.

And yes, I have issues when typng on an IPad.
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You fooled the one Orc who was let free, Shiny had far grander pans.
Oh, you mean the blame the ogres' deaths thing? If we head by the ogres' corpses later today we might be able to do something with it.

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Or how much will you guys slow down to keep pace with them? They can only move so fast.

And yes, I have issues when typng on an IPad.
How fast?
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:49 PM   Top  -  End  -  #81
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I assume the soldiers know how to get to Linwood, and we can trust them to do so since they were ordered to.

Perhaps we should send them ahead to Linwood while we go off to stir up trouble amidst the ogres. They can defend against other raids in the meantime (pseudo-sandbox!). And if we do die in the process (or get detained so long we can't get back before the invasion), at least Linwood will have gained a little defense.
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That's pretty risky...
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:19 PM   Top  -  End  -  #83
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Not as risky as trying to survive an orc invasion with just the six of us and 12 soldiers.
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I assume the soldiers know how to get to Linwood, and we can trust them to do so since they were ordered to.

Perhaps we should send them ahead to Linwood while we go off to stir up trouble amidst the ogres. They can defend against other raids in the meantime (pseudo-sandbox!). And if we do die in the process (or get detained so long we can't get back before the invasion), at least Linwood will have gained a little defense.
If Shiny brings the idea to go after the ogres (Which is simply insane in my opinion as a player), Miriam will second that in order to see if she can save MAry's son.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #85
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And Natalia will remember how the two meat shields of the party NEARLY FREAKING DIED YESTERDAY and veto it. Vehemently. And hey, you're the one who epically failed the diplomacy check.

Besides, we've also got Henry, about a dozen of the Linwood soldiers, and the lieutenant. Shame Morton's dead though...
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:38 PM   Top  -  End  -  #86
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As a player going after the orcs make sense to me. At least get a sense of the forces at play.

I believe we are heroes and should take risk.
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I say we stick with the enemy we know. We've sown discord in the ranks of the orcs but right now we have a more imminent danger to worry about.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:50 PM   Top  -  End  -  #88
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Man, doze off for a second and there are 8 posts!

I can say this, with only a dozen soldiers Linwood is in a tenuous spot without aid. Now, had two or three dozen soldiers been sent to bolster the ranks of alinwood I'd say we had other options, but I wouldn't be confident in their defense right now. Without some true heroes There will be an unnecessary amount of life lost in Linwood...if there is a full scale attack.
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Oh right, the orc we interrogated didn't know for sure. Man this could get embarrassing.

We should stay and help defend the town regardless.
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:54 AM   Top  -  End  -  #90
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I think our plan has to be to go on the offensive and start an orc-ogre war; the only question is how. Staying in Linwood and defending it with the men we have is not an option at all. (The other option is to get help from Glister, but we don't have the money).

We also know we can't perform a direct attack on either the orcs or the ogres: both are far stronger and more numerous than we are.

Thus, the goal to find a raiding party (of either orcs or ogres), kill a few of them, plant misinformation in one or more survivors, and let them escape. If he's within a three hour walk of other ogres or orcs, Shiny can charm the survivor, which would make him especially open to the suggestion of warmongering.

As for whom we target, ogres or orcs: I do agree that the orcs are an easier bet. They're smaller, which makes them easier to grapple, tie up, and disable, and so far they've been easier to best in combat (though it's not clear that will continue- orcs might travel in larger numbers or have other skills). We've also started the process of spreading rumors among the orcs. Perhaps putting all our energy towards them is smarter.

The other question is whether to bring these soldiers with us on the misinformation campaign (I'm sure they'd be open to it if we're attacking ogres). It would be a nice safety net that makes it less likely we'll get in over our heads. On the other hand, any soldiers that die would be fewer that can defend Linwood.

Finally- as for the fact that Valen and Kurt nearly died yesterday, don't forget that we've leveled up since. They both have more HP and a higher BAB, Mithril has more offensive spells, Miriam has more powerful healing spells, Natalia is deadlier, and even Shiny has his neat new Unsettling Enchantment trick.
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