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Old 09-26-2012, 07:14 AM   Top  -  End  -  #91
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Li'l question for Ponythread

What would a good pony alternative to "Oh God" be? As in "Oh God I'm going to be sick!" or something like that. For those times when you really need something strong that conveys your horror.

There's "Oh Celestia" but it doesn't quite have the same ... impact.
Heh. I have seen a couple.

"Oh Celestia" seems to be the most common, as you said. A couple of quirky ones I found:

Land's sake
By the sun and moon,
Oh goodness
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:20 AM   Top  -  End  -  #92
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In the rare event that I feel some ejaculation is necessary (what with not having used the former phrase in some twenty years), I go with "(dear) sweet Celestia!" I find tone of voice can make it sufficiently impactful.
Sweet Celestia! is my go-to pony ejaculation too. And if anypony wants to wink and nudge at that sentence, at least try to put some effort into it.


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By the Princesses' Beard!
By Celestia's Beard! parses a little better, IMO.
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:49 AM   Top  -  End  -  #93
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I dunno, here are a few example phrases to use for "X ... I'm gonna be sick." that I just thought up.

"Oh Stars,
"Sun and Stars,
"Oh ponyfeathers,
"Oh horseapples,
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:19 AM   Top  -  End  -  #94
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I dunno, here are a few example phrases to use for "X ... I'm gonna be sick." that I just thought up.

"Oh Stars,
"Sun and Stars,
"Oh ponyfeathers,
"Oh horseapples,
"Oh crud,
"By Celestia's Technicolour Flank/Plot,"
"By Luna's Starry Flank/Plot,"
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:26 AM   Top  -  End  -  #95
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You could go with "Oh Luna" as well. Shorter and still invokes a goddess. Though I personally liked my coined phrase "For the love of Luna's left hoof".
"Oh Luna" sounds like something you'd say in bed ... with her Hopefully not followed by "I'm going to be sick"

The other one sounds more like you're annoyed at something or someone rather than horrified by something.

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In the rare event that I feel some ejaculation is necessary (what with not having used the former phrase in some twenty years), I go with "(dear) sweet Celestia!" I find tone of voice can make it sufficiently impactful.
"Sweet Celestia" sounds more like surprise than genuine horror.

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Heh. I have seen a couple.

"Oh Celestia" seems to be the most common, as you said. A couple of quirky ones I found:

Land's sake
By the sun and moon,
Oh goodness
Equestria above,
Goddess,
By the Princesses' Beard!
Land's sake sounds like something AJ might have used once or twice in the show, actually.

None of them really have that ... punch, I'm looking for. It's a little too light, a little too "Oh, look at that" rather than "OH GOD NO!"

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I dunno, here are a few example phrases to use for "X ... I'm gonna be sick." that I just thought up.

"Oh Stars,
"Sun and Stars,
"Oh ponyfeathers,
"Oh horseapples,
"Oh crud,
"By Celestia's Technicolour Flank/Plot,"
"By Luna's Starry Flank/Plot,"
"Oh Stars" or possibly "Oh my stars" might be a little closer, but mostly these sorts of things sound silly and lack the kind of seriousness I'm looking for.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:30 AM   Top  -  End  -  #96
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What would a good pony alternative to "Oh God" be? As in "Oh God I'm going to be sick!" or something like that. For those times when you really need something strong that conveys your horror.

There's "Oh Celestia" but it doesn't quite have the same ... impact.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:41 AM   Top  -  End  -  #97
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Which she? Because the horse could be either or. Maybe both? And isn't it possible to love and tolerate of something that makes your eyes burn?

Though that's not necesarraly an easily embraced mindset...
I massively dislike the viewpoint you are espousing and the method in which you are doing it, but I don't think I can calmly discuss it on this forum. I'm gonna hope that I can stick with 'Please remember other people have the right to enjoy things you don't, and don't call them sick for it, even if you or even society think they are.'

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The problem is, whether something is sick depends an awful lot. Brutally murdering your best friend is certainly sick and wrong, but exploring the idea in a piece of fiction or art is not inherently sick or wrong.

I am personally of the clear opinion that nothing is taboo in fiction. Nothing is off limits. There are certainly things that, if you're at all concerned about writing something worth reading, need to be handled with extreme maturity and care. But nothing is so sick that it can not ever be explored in fiction.
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MOTHER OF FAUST. 0_0

That is all.
That one is a solid one. It has passion. I'm a little unsure how it would fit my specific needs, but we're getting somewhere now
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I think I need an intervention to stop me watching mushy romance anime all the time.

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"Sweet Celestia" sounds more like surprise than genuine horror.
Again, a great deal can be conveyed with tone of voice.
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Again, a great deal can be conveyed with tone of voice.
While that's true, I have a hard time imagining a tone in which "Sweet Celestia" doesn't have that inherent element of "I'm surprised at this", at least a little. Maybe just me.

Also in written form all you have are the words, so you need words that work without a specific tone, or which have that tone built in, so to speak.
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What would a good pony alternative to "Oh God" be? As in "Oh God I'm going to be sick!" or something like that. For those times when you really need something strong that conveys your horror.

There's "Oh Celestia" but it doesn't quite have the same ... impact.
How about "Oh Sleipnir!"?

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Land's sake sounds like something AJ might have used once or twice in the show, actually.
Actually, I think Applejack did use that in Griffon the Brush Off after she saw the prank Pinkie and Rainbow played on her orchard.

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What would a good pony alternative to "Oh God" be? As in "Oh God I'm going to be sick!" or something like that. For those times when you really need something strong that conveys your horror.

There's "Oh Celestia" but it doesn't quite have the same ... impact.
I'm personally fond of "Oh sun and moon..." as a mild swear.
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I like to assume that when Applejack, shrunk by the poisonjoke and left on her own, used "ponyfeathers!"(which dates back to G1), it was an expletive that she, being a working mare of the world knew and used occasinally, but never would have used in polite company (akin to the words that we don't use on these boards...)

(I don't recall anyone else saying at any other time, so I could be wrong. I noticed it in the episode as I recognised it from G1.)
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I like to assume that when Applejack, shrunk by the poisonjoke and left on her own, used "ponyfeathers!"(which dates back to G1), it was an expletive that she, being a working mare of the world knew and used occasinally, but never would have used in polite company (akin to the words that we don't use on these boards...)

(I don't recall anyone else saying at any other time, so I could be wrong. I noticed it in the episode as I recognised it from G1.)
I didn't know it was from G1, but I support it being on the dirtier end of the swear scale. Mostly because it supports one of the Mood Wings headcanons: that a pegasus' wings are a rather private part of their body.
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As I see it, so far, the important bits are as follows;
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Does this mean that Raz hails from an inception-like Dreamscape? I'm not entirely sure what I'm seeing there.

Great image though.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:25 AM   Top  -  End  -  #108
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As I see it, so far, the important bits are as follows;
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Yo, are we counting IRC ponythread stuff? Because that's probably more on the lighter side, barring a few brush-ins with dark terrors and such.

♪I'd like to be part of the lighter side~ I want to... dadadada, see 'em daaancing~♫

(Lighter side is still taking recruits, aye?)
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Does this mean that Raz hails from an inception-like Dreamscape? I'm not entirely sure what I'm seeing there.

Great image though.
If Raz is doing the same thing he did in the IRC, the fox hails from an interdimensional chaotic world known as Pandemonium, where weird inception-windows are probably quite common.
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I didn't know it was from G1, but I support it being on the dirtier end of the swear scale. Mostly because it supports one of the Mood Wings headcanons: that a pegasus' wings are a rather private part of their body.
Which goes well with Nasty Fluttershy's use of "nopony gives a flying feather" in Putting Your Hoof Down.
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See, what exactly -is- Gorn? I thought I knew what Gorn was, but if this is it, then I don't know.

I thought Gorn was Gore-Porn. The viewer is expected to watch this for the sake of -enjoying- the subject material. That blood and guts are produced to thrill and delight. Like a type of power fantasy. Much like regular porn. Except, instead of, for example, shoving metal objects (that may or may not be phalic) into bits of meat and exchanging fluids... well, actually, yeah, much like regular porn.

Then again, my main experience with it is in games. Ninja Gaiden. Gears of War. Mortal Kombat. Killer Instinct. God of War. And the like. Maybe those games are too tame... maybe I'm not ready for the real thing. But I'm not personally bothered by blood and guts, or limbs being hacked off. I've gotten -that- kind of excited from it before (Orb of Destruction + 100 Ninjas = Pool of Blood and 500 (head, arms, and legs) spare body parts. Awesome). And I've seen people die in real life.

I'm kinda surprised that Cupcakes is even capable of affecting me the way it did.


The thing is, that's not entirely true. People are capable of doing all sorts of things when pressed or snapped. It's sad, but true, even when the stressor is someone you love. Some times more so, which is even sadder, but truer. It's a fight for those who are slightly unhinged to keep ourselves in check some times, and some times it's easier when you're not fighting someone you're attached to...

How is it flawed reasoning? While it -doesn't- always lead to such acts, it is certainly capable of it. That's what makes Party of One scary; it confirms that Pinkie isn't entirely screwed on right. And any sign of instability shouldn't be taken so lightly, because no one, except and sometimes not even the subject, knows what is lying underneath.


.... What is Kitchen Sink? A character got seriously mixed with a kitchen sink? Like the appliance?

Is there any part of a fandom that is worse than the shippers in terms of "what the heck's going on?"?

You all don't seem like a collective anymore, actually. It's just an odd concidental grouping, at least from my eyes. The personalities are too distinct, and each being is too different.

Wow... Ponyville needs far more discipline, if a couple of kids arguing infront of him is enoug to give him the power he needs to be reborn... shouldn't he have been revived much earlier than that, though?

Blatant Lies. ...You really think so?


Incredibly Rough. I know... it's certainly not the final draft of it.... but I kinda like it.


Why go out of you way? It's not like it matters. You'd really do that for me? ... :)

.... this reminds me; Applejack was seen trying to eat a sandwich... that had a piece of lunch meat in it.

Where'd the Lunch meat come from? How does everyone stay healthy on pie and other such stuff mde from Apples?

How do you make Apple Fries?


I think I got everything I was supposed to...
Yeah that's pretty much it and while those games have an element of Gorn they aren't Gorn.

Cupcakes is Gorn. Human Centipide is also Gorn (and from what I've heard worse then Cupcakes.)


See that generally doesn't hold true. Now I'm hardly an expert of psychology but generally a mental break follows the same patterns every time. Pinkie sinks into delusions, Fluttershy snaps in rage, Rainbow Dash gets performance anxiety (which is actually a pretty normal thing.) But it would be OOC to see Rainbow Dash getting delusional. Pinkie may harm somepony in her delusions but she wouldn't understand what was going on at all.


Yes and yes.


That's what the Herd looks like when you're on the inside.

No that was just bad timing. Discord was already breaking free at that point. In fact you could view it as the reverse, he had already broken free enough to turn three good friends against each other.


Yes I do really think so.

True but that's what I'd expect from a short description. I'd like to see what you'd do with a longer work.

Why? Because I like reading. And I want to help. Do I need more of a reason?


Looking at that scene it's a little rough. The pink that we think is meat may be something else. It could also be meat. So it could go either way. However that is the only scene where we see the possibility of ponies eating meat.

Pony biology is a mystery of the highest orders.

Apple Fries would be taking a slice of an apple, breading it, then deep frying it.
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♪I'd like to be part of the lighter side~ I want to... dadadada, see 'em daaancing~♫

(Lighter side is still taking recruits, aye?)

Yessiree bob.




If Raz is doing the same thing he did in the IRC, the fox hails from an interdimensional chaotic world known as Pandemonium, where weird inception-windows are probably quite common.
In the interest of cosmic balance, yeah, sure. (Part of me is delusional enough to think that codifying this could, potentially, give room or encouragement enough to re-introduce some lightsight here in the thread, but mostly I think it's an excuse to draw ponies. I also kind of like the idea of putting together some kind of general guide to the major landmarks as it were of ponythread's cosmology).
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The other one sounds more like you're annoyed at something or someone rather than horrified by something.
Well, thanks to the internet that generally happens.


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What would a good pony alternative to "Oh God" be? As in "Oh God I'm going to be sick!" or something like that. For those times when you really need something strong that conveys your horror.

There's "Oh Celestia" but it doesn't quite have the same ... impact.
You could always just go with "Oh Gosh!", or "Oh my gosh!" which I'm pretty sure have been used in the show before.

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I like to assume that when Applejack, shrunk by the poisonjoke and left on her own, used "ponyfeathers!"(which dates back to G1), it was an expletive that she, being a working mare of the world knew and used occasinally, but never would have used in polite company (akin to the words that we don't use on these boards...)

(I don't recall anyone else saying at any other time, so I could be wrong. I noticed it in the episode as I recognised it from G1.)
There was also "Horseapples!" which sounds like an expletive to me. Indeed, it's slang for horse dung if I remember correctly.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #114
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Hey ponythread. So I had the most random dream, featuring Bleakbane. I was walking through some place like an industrial complex or something, and randomly I walked by this security guard station and Bleakbane was inside beating up a guy using the helmet of a space suit. The why's and wherefores are totally unknown to me, but it was amusing.

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I suggest care in this type of comment, as has already been noted. Say rather that certain things make you feel sick, and we will all do our best to spoiler them, tag them or otherwise do our best to avoid exposing you to things that upset you. But when you call the creators and those who enjoy even very strange things "sick" it's liable to ruffle somepony's feathers.

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What would a good pony alternative to "Oh God" be? As in "Oh God I'm going to be sick!" or something like that. For those times when you really need something strong that conveys your horror.

There's "Oh Celestia" but it doesn't quite have the same ... impact.
Deadly, did you have a particular context you're looking for here? I'll give you a few different ones.

If you want to express dread, I suggest the boring but effective "oh...no" spoken slowly and deliberately.

If you're going for joy, as in "oh god, that's amazing" use of "oh gosh" or "Oh Celestia/Luna" would be just fine.

If it's dismay you want, "ponyfeathers" "horseapples" or even something you totally make up all work fine.

And, if this is a bedroom scene, you should definitely do "Oh Luna" because my gosh that would be awkward and hilarious.

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Anyone here played Pony Fantasy VI?
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I watched the whole thing in Phoe's let's play, but haven't played it myself. I thought it actually seemed fairly well-balanced and I enjoyed having Seth in there, just to watch Phoe kill him. Comedy gold, that. There are a lot of show lines thrown in, some of them terrible, some appropos. There is also some pretty good writing peppered throughout and I think the guy that made it really put in a lot of care.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:50 PM   Top  -  End  -  #115
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Deadly, did you have a particular context you're looking for here? I'll give you a few different ones.

If you want to express dread, I suggest the boring but effective "oh...no" spoken slowly and deliberately.
I do have a specific context in mind, but I didn't want to spoil anything. Edit: Also the question is interesting in general, of course

"Oh ... no" could work quite well, actually. Maybe with some repetitions. Yeah, I think that might do it.
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That's what I think the value of tragedy and horror and even gore is. It makes us feel and makes us think, it stirs the deepest feelings in us, if it's done well. It may not be something you enjoy, but it can be powerful and it can be positive for many people.

I'm not giving Cupcakes any credit. The Lecter books are, I'm sure, infinitely more clever. Also the gore is much more spread out, I'm sure. That was my point really, for a story like this to be good it needs more than just gore. You don't have to throw out the gore, you just have to distribute it right and not let it be the whole of the story.
So, speaking theoretically, what would have to be done to make Cupcakes good? I could see maybe spacing the actual tortures out over a series of days, with intervals where they actually talk to each other. It would introduce a sense of psychological drama to it, as opposed to "hack-slash-dead." It would also give a chance to portray Pinkie in a light other than a random "your turn to die" serial killer.


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Old 09-26-2012, 02:18 PM   Top  -  End  -  #117
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So, speaking theoretically, what would have to be done to make Cupcakes good? I could see maybe spacing the actual tortures out over a series of days, with intervals where they actually talk to each other. It would introduce a sense of psychological drama to it, as opposed to "hack-slash-dead." It would also give a chance to portray Pinkie in a light other than a random "your turn to die" serial killer.
I agree with you, Balmas, that restructuring it that way would probably be helpful to the story. I think that the biggest change needed would be in writing style and focus. The story would be most powerful as a psychological exploration. The perspective could be from either Pinkie or Rainbow, but it would need to get into much more thoughtful descriptions, to have the reader begin to understand what was happening not as a shocking reveal, but as a careful build-up that something was wrong. Deeply and utterly wrong. And then to analyze why and how that came into being.

Take a book like Lolita. It is so deeply wrong, but it's written from the perspective of the person responsible for the evil, and it takes a real shot at getting the reader to understand the mindset of the narrator.

As Deadly has said, though, writing a story like that is really hard.


Changing gears. Shards of Equestria, the pony Magic set, has been fully cancelled. If you want a good insight into what kinds of fan works are legally acceptable for the pony community it's a good read. Though I will say that the letter from the attorney, while correctly stating the law, makes things out to be much more cut and dry than they really are.
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I'd vote for "Goodness" as general word, with "feather", "buck", "apples" etc. replacing appropriate words in mild swears used by humans. In fact, I'd make most swears "cute", so to speak, devoid of any references to religion or true evil. It just doesn't fit, IMHO.

But then again, I don't buy into Celestia being a goddess, not with ancient ponies doing fine without her and her being born and all. The only being that can lay weak claim to deity status (and even then, merely mortal demigod, not true god) is Discord.
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I've always been partial to "By Luna!" myself.

So much so that it's bled into one of my actual (albeit under my breath) swears. Then again, since Luna is another name for moon for the uninitiated, I get less wierd looks this way.
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So, speaking theoretically, what would have to be done to make Cupcakes good? I could see maybe spacing the actual tortures out over a series of days, with intervals where they actually talk to each other. It would introduce a sense of psychological drama to it, as opposed to "hack-slash-dead." It would also give a chance to portray Pinkie in a light other than a random "your turn to die" serial killer.
That, and what Anarion says, all good points.

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