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Old 10-01-2012, 08:49 AM   Top  -  End  -  #271
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I wish I could follow this thread and post here in a more regular fashion.

Anyway, hi all.

Notice I need to change my tumblr address... but at least it isn't linking to my *ahem* "nusswuff" blog...

Which my mum would just ask me if I have a girlfriend so I would be "forced" to spill the proverbial beans and thus "out" myself...
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Not a problem Helio, it's a helped me greatly too, though I thought I'd pm'd you that link earlier when you were wondering about stuff... must have forgotten, sorry
You did (or at least the main index page) - I scanned it briefly but thought it was all technical medical stuff, and didn't scroll down enough to see the Consumer Information section

For everyone else, have the link. There's some amazingly useful stuff starting about half way down the page.

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...I think I've managed to convince myself that my fluctuations are in fact real, and not being a special snowflake. Reading the booklet from the above site about SRS, I was thinking that it actually sounded quite appealing. Last time I thought about it, I was just heading back to male, and completely and totally freaked out about the idea. Such a wide gulf in my visceral reaction can't just be me making things up.
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Anyway, hi all.

Notice I need to change my tumblr address... but at least it isn't linking to my *ahem* "nusswuff" blog...

Which my mum would just ask me if I have a girlfriend so I would be "forced" to spill the proverbial beans and thus "out" myself...
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Also, this, for our trans ladies. Good news, no?
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My parents just read the e-mail I sent them, and they are reacting exactly as I predicted: my mom is freaking out and demanding to know more information that I feel comfortable giving, and my dad is being stand-offish and saying he's not convinced it's important enough to warrant his time.

This is going to be a long 9 days...

@ Asta - That is good news! However, we have to keep it in context: the transplant was between two female bodies that are genetically related. How that would work from a female body to a male body with no genetic similarity, I'm not so convinced it would go quite as well.
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@ Asta - That is good news! However, we have to keep it in context: the transplant was between two female bodies that are genetically related. How that would work from a female body to a male body with no genetic similarity, I'm not so convinced it would go quite as well.
I don't think male or female body would matter that much, honestly. Remember, one of these ladies were born without a uterus, and once you're on HRT that's basically the situation trans women are in as well. The abdominal cavity is pretty accomodating and a non-pregnant uterus isn't very large. And there's no reason to suspect that the immune response would be greater for trans women than it is for cis women. Of course, if the trans woman could get a uterus from their biological mother that would make things much easier.
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I don't think male or female body would matter that much, honestly. Remember, one of these ladies were born without a uterus, and once you're on HRT that's basically the situation trans women are in as well. The abdominal cavity is pretty accomodating and a non-pregnant uterus isn't very large. And there's no reason to suspect that the immune response would be greater for trans women than it is for cis women. Of course, if the trans woman could get a uterus from their biological mother that would make things much easier.
Well, the bone structure of naturally born women accommodate a little better the bearing of children. That isn't to say that one day we will be able to change everything in there and completely rework things. But genetically female to female is much different from female to male, esp if they aren't a genetic match, due to blood types conflicting, organs not liking the environment of someone else's body....etc etc. There are just so many factors that go into transplants that need to be as close as possible for the best possible outcome, i.e. the body accepting the part that was transplanted.

All that being said, that is a wonderful step in the right direction, and I hope they are able to go even further with this step/technology.
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Not fond of my face in that pic - looks too male. Best I could do with the lighting and such though.
Ummmm, how can I put this....if you ever decide you're not entirely straight, call me. Immediately.

Your face looks a lot more feminine than you think in that piccie and your hair is amazing as always.
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@ Celtic - I must admit I did jump up out of my chair and bounce around a bit when I read your compliment


@ Helio - you don't really need all that luxurious hair do you? I'll only borrow it until mine grows out
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Your face looks a lot more feminine than you think in that piccie and your hair is amazing as always.
Surely at the moment it would make more sense to call you if I was straight :P
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Here I am again... first of all, I have to confess, I feel a bit guilty only posting here when I have problems. I'm sorry for that, I really don't intend to be so self-centered or selfish and I do constantly lurk around the thread and read your stories with interest and you all have my sympathies. I just don't feel I have anything useful to add.

Now, I did start writing my "coming out" letter, to my dad. It was fully written, but I chickened out and then a few days later we got in some fight over something quite irrelevant, but it was an excuse for me to postpone it. I'll try finding the letter again and just confronting him with it when the time is right (knowing the time will never be really perfect).

Ive been confused lately though. I've been having strong feelings for a girl and we had lunch together. We had such a great time and I felt great about it. Although I have to admit, it wasn't a real date and there wasn't much romance or flirting, so maybe it was nothing, but I felt really good about myself. It confuses me something, since it made me feel very "manly" and in charge.

I'm also thinking about ways I could experiment with feminine clothing, make-up etc, but since I'm still living at home, that would be difficult. Guess, it would be easier to just come out already.
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My parents just read the e-mail I sent them, and they are reacting exactly as I predicted: my mom is freaking out and demanding to know more information that I feel comfortable giving, and my dad is being stand-offish and saying he's not convinced it's important enough to warrant his time.

This is going to be a long 9 days...

@ Asta - That is good news! However, we have to keep it in context: the transplant was between two female bodies that are genetically related. How that would work from a female body to a male body with no genetic similarity, I'm not so convinced it would go quite as well.
Best wishes regarding the parents.

I'm sure it would work from a mother to a male-bodied daughter. The next step is simply cloning uteruses. The male body contains an X chromosome, so there should be enough data to grow your own once we figure that out. Barring faulty and recessive genes, anyway.

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Well, the bone structure of naturally born women accommodate a little better the bearing of children. That isn't to say that one day we will be able to change everything in there and completely rework things. But genetically female to female is much different from female to male, esp if they aren't a genetic match, due to blood types conflicting, organs not liking the environment of someone else's body....etc etc. There are just so many factors that go into transplants that need to be as close as possible for the best possible outcome, i.e. the body accepting the part that was transplanted.

All that being said, that is a wonderful step in the right direction, and I hope they are able to go even further with this step/technology.
Eh, I'm waiting for them to just be able to grow new bodies and just transplant the consciousness over. That or insert genes to backup memories directly to DNA--possible introducing a new chromosome just for data storage and recovery--so I can clone myself and live forever or at least long enough to domesticate bears.
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Eh, I'm waiting for them to just be able to grow new bodies and just transplant the consciousness over. That or insert genes to backup memories directly to DNA--possible introducing a new chromosome just for data storage and recovery--so I can clone myself and live forever or at least long enough to domesticate bears.
They've already developed methods to encode arbitrary data in DNA. The problem isn't storing stuff in DNA, it's figuring out how memories work and how to transfer them back to knowledge/memories after being stored as DNA, since currently we can only work with them vaguely and indirectly.

But hey, we have the building blocks, all we have to do is put it together, right? We'll probably have that done in 20 years.
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They've already developed methods to encode arbitrary data in DNA. The problem isn't storing stuff in DNA, it's figuring out how memories work and how to transfer them to different formats, since currently we can only work with them vaguely and indirectly; it's figuring out what to store and then turning them back into memories/knowledge later that are the problem.

But hey, we have the building blocks, all we have to do is put it together, right? We'll probably have that done in 20 years.
Yeah, I know. I don't keep entirely up to date with everything but I've read up on this. The main issues are figuring out how memory works and figuring out how to make the body back that up in quaternary on its own.
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You mean ghost int he Shell style?
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I just found out about no homophobes dot com today from a facebook friend. A bit sobering, and those with common triggers and those who are easily discouraged would probably do better to avoid it. Still, fairly interesting.
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Some of the ones I saw weren't so bad. Any software that just does pattern recognition for 1 or 2 words is going to miscategorize it as hate speech when, for example, a fellow posts "Yes, cute guy at work. I'm so gay I cry rainbows. We SHOULD go out sometime."
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Some of the ones I saw weren't so bad. Any software that just does pattern recognition for 1 or 2 words is going to miscategorize it as hate speech when, for example, a fellow posts "Yes, cute guy at work. I'm so gay I cry rainbows. We SHOULD go out sometime."
True. But most of the ones it picks up are negative uses, based on sitting watching incoming posts for a few minutes.
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Some of the ones I saw weren't so bad. Any software that just does pattern recognition for 1 or 2 words is going to miscategorize it as hate speech when, for example, a fellow posts "Yes, cute guy at work. I'm so gay I cry rainbows. We SHOULD go out sometime."
Wait, is that actually possible? Crying rainbows seems to be a contradiction in terms. Maybe smiling a rainbow but crying? Noes.
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Wait, is that actually possible? Crying rainbows seems to be a contradiction in terms. Maybe smiling a rainbow but crying? Noes.
Some quick Googling suggests that it is possible.
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Helio, you're looking quite ladylike to me. You wear it well.
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@Absol: *Hugs!*

@Ichneumon: It's not selfish to talk about yourself, especially in a support thread. I think it'd be nice if you posted more often. *Hugs*

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I'm sqeeing a bit at making someone a bit jealous


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I wish I could follow this thread and post here in a more regular fashion.

Anyway, hi all.

Notice I need to change my tumblr address... but at least it isn't linking to my *ahem* "nusswuff" blog...
Hey Birch~ *Glomps* ^_^

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Which my mum would just ask me if I have a girlfriend so I would be "forced" to spill the proverbial beans and thus "out" myself...
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Also, this, for our trans ladies. Good news, no?
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Well, the bone structure of naturally born women accommodate a little better the bearing of children. That isn't to say that one day we will be able to change everything in there and completely rework things. But genetically female to female is much different from female to male, esp if they aren't a genetic match, due to blood types conflicting, organs not liking the environment of someone else's body....etc etc. There are just so many factors that go into transplants that need to be as close as possible for the best possible outcome, i.e. the body accepting the part that was transplanted.

All that being said, that is a wonderful step in the right direction, and I hope they are able to go even further with this step/technology.
Earlier on, c-sections would be the thing to do. A hysterectomy may or may not be necessary as far as I know... Hopefully it'll eventually be possible to fully incorporate everything~

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Not fond of my face in that pic - looks too male. Best I could do with the lighting and such though.
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Eh, I'm waiting for them to just be able to grow new bodies and just transplant the consciousness over. That or insert genes to backup memories directly to DNA--possible introducing a new chromosome just for data storage and recovery--so I can clone myself and live forever or at least long enough to domesticate bears.
I'm waiting for 'em to figure out how to use whatever it is they're trying to use to clean up "junk DNA" - at that point, we'll have pretty much cured old age. After that we can tackle making work-arounds like brain extensions and the aforementioned genetic memory.


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