LGBTAitp 27: Of Shoes, and Ships, and Sealing Wax

[Leona]

Originally Posted by Coidzor

Any of you all ever do this?

Spoiler

Or is it just considered crass?

Make sure you have different densities, or you'll get an icky color!

[Jeff the Green]

Originally Posted by Serpentine

I'd prefer not to have rape as a standard reproduction method, if it's all the same to you :I

Would that mean I have to have some sort of surgery to make my penis twisty? 'Cause I don't want that either.

[Heliomance]

Originally Posted by C'nor

Tam?

It's me name :)

[Asta Kask]

River Tam?

[C'nor]

Originally Posted by Heliomance

It's me name :)

Ah, got it. That was, I think, the first time I had encountered that idiom, so I didn't quite get it at first...

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

River Tam?

Wouldn't that depend on Helio's gender at the time?

[Asta Kask]

And when she's not River Tam he could be... Mountain Tam! Or something.

[SiuiS]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

Best argument against gay marriage ever:

Spoiler

Well, I'm convinced.

I'm... I'm taking it on faith that this child is one of those icons of the superiority of homeschooling, and this is satire. Because otherwise it'll keep me up.

I don't understand children. At age ten, I had my basic template fully in place, and have refined context for how and when to use things, but were about as smart then as I am now. So it's not youth that makes kids dumb. It's dumb that makes kids dumb.

Originally Posted by Selpharia

So I had my first therapy appointment with my new therapist this week. He was easily one of the nicest, most understanding people I've ever met. I mean I know my fears were groundless, really, but it's nice to e proven wrong. That and seeing someone who's transitioned in the flesh made me feel like it's a possible thing and less a bizarre product of my fevered imagination.

Yay! I'm glad! You needed a boost there. I hope you can enjoy going back!

EDIT; I love your new avatar, Pheenie, it's really majestic

Oh man. Pheenie. Absol, it is with great love and affection, and no small amount of giggling, that I will call you Pheenie from now on~

Originally Posted by Arachu

Who needs the ocean? The amphibians know where it's at! They sit wherever the heck they want, obeying no law but hunger, and breathe through their skins! We should go amphibi-ize. X3

That's a pretty good argument, but I counter with!
Snakes are sexier. REPTILES 4 LIFE

Actually, I've heard that rape doesn't usually impregnate ducks because of the way the females' genitals evolved. Rape itself does happen fairly often, though... :/

I
But
That's

Whyyyyyyy

...

How have you been, B? Haven't really spoken to you in a spell.

Originally Posted by Lix Lorn

I seem to recall community stances of Katy Perry being conflicted
But I just saw a youtube comment on her video, pointing out '0:06 WHAT THE! did anybody notice the boy in a flower girl's dress?'

Thank you, luqman127. Thank you.
(Hot N Cold)

That's pretty obvious, but at least he looks good. No, I don't suspect Katy or the producers have any idea trans issues exist, and he's at most a gay friend.

Now, what I'm interested in is that black guy at around 0:13-0:15. He's pretty~

Originally Posted by THAC0

I know it's kinda stupid, but hey.

I'm a teacher in a part of the country that is rather...regressive on LGBTA issues. And last week I laid into some kids who were using slurs. I've done it before in more tolerant parts of the country, but was really nervous about having to do it here. But I did. And it was good. And hopefully it has an effect.

Good! You're a better teacher than I. My last attempt to correct faulty behavior backfired considerably. Took me a week to stop being angry...
I'm glad you're helping out even though it feels like a losing battle. Every step matters, and all.

Originally Posted by Heliomance

I just had a really satisfying night out.

First of all, I ran into an ex I never got closure on (detailed more in RWA if you're interested). Then I met a coursemate from last year who'd never seen me as a girl before. I was expecting awkwardness, but she didn't bat an eyelid, and when I commented that I was impressed how unfazed she was, her reaction was more or less "Why would I care? You look amazing!"

Then, towards the end of the night, I had a long conversation with a cis girl I met there wherin she gave me fashion tips, seemed to have absolutely no idea I was anything other than a cis girl myself, and actually expressed jealousy over my body, and said she wouldn't have anything to complain about if she had my body!

All in all, I'm in a really good mood at the moment. Everything's come up Tam tonight.

To be fair, you are gorgeous. I'm jealous of you. It feels weird even thinking the words "jealous of your body" >_>;

Originally Posted by C'nor

Tam?

I believe Tam was a compromise offered by Helio's mother as a way to keep her birth name and still have the fluidity to not be a lady saddled with Chuck, as it were.

[Heliomance]

Originally Posted by SiuiS

I believe Tam was a compromise offered by Helio's mother as a way to keep her birth name and still have the fluidity to not be a lady saddled with Chuck, as it were.

Aye, this. It was important to me not to reject the name my parents gave me, but equally important that I have a gender neutral name I could use.

[noparlpf]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

And when she's not River Tam he could be... Mountain Tam! Or something.

I was thinking Rakkety Tam. From one of the Redwall novels.

[C'nor]

Originally Posted by noparlpf

I was thinking Rakkety Tam. From one of the Redwall novels.

...Helio is a squirrel with a claymore now?

And I was just thinking that she'd switch which of the Tams depending on her current gender.

[Astrella]

Originally Posted by bluewind95

I didn't quite lose my cool, but I did call him a disgusting human being (calmly), and told him that if he hated that transwoman for being trans, then he hated me too because I'm (sort of? I am not sure I quite understand this in myself.. it's so confusing) transgendered (in that I fluctuate from slightly female-feeling to slightly male-feeling and mostly agendered).

Edit: Sleepy, sleepy, posting without finishing. Anyways, I can't take it. I can't consider a transphobe, or a homophobe a friend. I mean... this place is my home. And it's because of YOU people. LGBTA people. You guys even helped me identify myself comfortably as an asexual, and thanks to you guys I no longer feel I'm a straight person with something seriously wrong. Someone that can't accept the extended family I adopted (you guys and some other friends), I can't consider friends.

Ugh, I'm really sorry that happened to you.

I'm also glad you've found a bit of a home in the thread here though and that it has helped you feel better about yourself and more comfortable.

Originally Posted by Selpharia

So I had my first therapy appointment with my new therapist this week. He was easily one of the nicest, most understanding people I've ever met. I mean I know my fears were groundless, really, but it's nice to e proven wrong. That and seeing someone who's transitioned in the flesh made me feel like it's a possible thing and less a bizarre product of my fevered imagination. That and when I mentioned that I don't come across as very feminine, he told me that I didn't come across as masculine either because my shoulders aren't broad and my face and hair are soft-looking. I am, if nothing else, extremely susceptible to flattery. Although it did lead to the following humorous exchange:

Him: [stuff mentioned above]
Me: (internal SQUEE) Hearing that makes me so happy, you have no idea!
Me: *realizes who she's talking to.* Oh, wait, I guess you do
Him: Yep

EDIT; I love your new avatar, Pheenie, it's really majestic

I've been thinking of changing mine, she looks a little to crabby for me at the moment, but I have no better replacement

~Laura

Eeeeeeeeeeeh!

I'm so glad your therapist is turning out well.

Originally Posted by THAC0

I know it's kinda stupid, but hey.

I'm a teacher in a part of the country that is rather...regressive on LGBTA issues. And last week I laid into some kids who were using slurs. I've done it before in more tolerant parts of the country, but was really nervous about having to do it here. But I did. And it was good. And hopefully it has an effect.

That's really cool of you.

Originally Posted by Heliomance

I just had a really satisfying night out.

First of all, I ran into an ex I never got closure on (detailed more in RWA if you're interested). Then I met a coursemate from last year who'd never seen me as a girl before. I was expecting awkwardness, but she didn't bat an eyelid, and when I commented that I was impressed how unfazed she was, her reaction was more or less "Why would I care? You look amazing!"

Then, towards the end of the night, I had a long conversation with a cis girl I met there wherin she gave me fashion tips, seemed to have absolutely no idea I was anything other than a cis girl myself, and actually expressed jealousy over my body, and said she wouldn't have anything to complain about if she had my body!

All in all, I'm in a really good mood at the moment. Everything's come up Tam tonight.

Glad you had a great night! :D

[KenderWizard]

Originally Posted by Heliomance

I just had a really satisfying night out.

Hey, that's awesome!

Originally Posted by Coidzor

Any of you all ever do this?

Spoiler

Or is it just considered crass?

Well, not with fizzy drinks, since I only ever get green (7up) and yellow (Club Lemon), but certainly with anything else I can manage! Cups, mugs, straws, colouring pencils (obvious!), other art supplies, paper, books, etc.

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

And when she's not River Tam he could be... Mountain Tam! Or something.

... Why not just River and Simon?

[Astrella]

Oh, I also managed to fix some issues with my parents. I think I already mentioned that dad has suspicions about me seeing a therapist because of the one incident in August where he decided to follow me. So mum rummaged through my bank notes and found out I'd been taking trains somewhere so they decided to confront me with a lot of noise. :s

I told them I was seeing my psych (not therapist) for social anxiety /light agoraphobia which is something we talk about and which I've been diagnosed with (though it's mostly dysphoria fueled and some other stuff). And they were satisfied with that. I didn't really lie cause that is part of the truth and I'm able to use their insurance now for those sessions which is handy cause they're expensive. I feel like an Aes Sedai now. I feel sucky for being deceptive but I want to come out on my own terms and not have it forced on me; especially not by them disrespecting my privacy again. And I don't think I can deal with a (potentially) bad reaction now.

[Lentrax]

So are you going to request a forum name change to Astrella Sedai?

But more importantly, I agree with you on coming out on your own terms. I am not going to say you lied, that is horrible. Instead I will say that your response was clever and witty. I doubt I could have come up with anything half as good.

[Asta Kask]

Originally Posted by KenderWizard

... Why not just River and Simon?

I never liked Simon that much. What did Kaylee see in him? (Apart from the abs)?

[Castaras]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

I never liked Simon that much. What did Kaylee see in him? (Apart from the abs)?

Smartly dressed vaguely attractive intelligent guy.

[noparlpf]

Originally Posted by Castaras

Smartly dressed vaguely attractive intelligent guy.

Eh, I didn't like him much either. He also frequently failed to appear intelligent. Not that that's exactly a failing, that's what I do. But still.

[Astrella]

Originally Posted by Lentrax

So are you going to request a forum name change to Astrella Sedai?

But more importantly, I agree with you on coming out on your own terms. I am not going to say you lied, that is horrible. Instead I will say that your response was clever and witty. I doubt I could have come up with anything half as good.

Thank you~
Also I think I have an idea for a new avatar now.

[Castaras]

Originally Posted by noparlpf

Eh, I didn't like him much either. He also frequently failed to appear intelligent. Not that that's exactly a failing, that's what I do. But still.

Wasn't a fan of him. He was a bit wishy washy for me.

He had intelligence but no wisdom whatsoever, and all his knowledge was of stuff that wasn't really real-world.

[Coidzor]

Originally Posted by Astrella

Thank you~
Also I think I have an idea for a new avatar now.

Aes Sedai Astrella?

[Lentrax]

Yeah. The women who speak half truths, or at least just enough truth to not violate the Three Oaths. They are from the wheel of time. I highly recommend them, if you don't mind reading a lot of pages of stuff that don't advance the plot at all.

And Astrella, just so you know, my sword is heron marked.

You know, in case you were looking for a warder.

[noparlpf]

Originally Posted by Castaras

Wasn't a fan of him. He was a bit wishy washy for me.

He had intelligence but no wisdom whatsoever, and all his knowledge was of stuff that wasn't really real-world.

Yeah. Seems about right.

[Astrella]

Originally Posted by Coidzor

Aes Sedai Astrella?

Astrella Sedai, yes~

Originally Posted by Lentrax

Yeah. The women who speak half truths, or at least just enough truth to not violate the Three Oaths. They are from the wheel of time. I highly recommend them, if you don't mind reading a lot of pages of stuff that don't advance the plot at all.

And Astrella, just so you know, my sword is heron marked.

You know, in case you were looking for a warder.

Hehe.
I've been going through the reread of them on tor.com and remember that I actually quite liked the books.

[Lentrax]

Yeah. I'm excited/nervous/terrified/elated/etc. for A Memory of Light. It finally ends. One way or another.

[Lix Lorn]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

River Tam?

Great. Cause I really needed MORE reasons to crush on helio.

Originally Posted by noparlpf

I was thinking Rakkety Tam. From one of the Redwall novels.

Rakkety rakkety rakkety tam
The drums are beatin' braw
Rakket rakkety rakkety tam
Is marching off to war

Or something.

[Asta Kask]

Originally Posted by Lix Lorn

Great. Cause I really needed MORE reasons to crush on helio.

River? Really? When Kaylee existed?

[Coidzor]

Originally Posted by Lix Lorn

Great. Cause I really needed MORE reasons to crush on helio.

Helio is handsome and all, but I'm just not seeing the resemblance.

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

River? Really? When Kaylee existed?

...Or to Kaylee for that matter.

[Asta Kask]

Originally Posted by Coidzor

Helio is handsome and all, but I'm just not seeing the resemblance.

They share a name.

Originally Posted by Coidzor

...Or to Kaylee for that matter.

No, I meant, why did she crush on River when Kaylee existed. I don't think Kaylee is particularly like Heliomance, although if Helio took a picture of herself in a mechanic's outfit and wrenching something, I'm all for it.

[Lix Lorn]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

River? Really? When Kaylee existed?

I modelled my voice and about 80% of my personality on kaylee. And named my PC after her. There wasn't MUCH room left in her section of my head for crushing.

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

if Helio took a picture of herself in a mechanic's outfit and wrenching something, I'm all for it.

Fund it.

[golentan]

River/Kaylee, OTP.