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Old 10-24-2012, 06:10 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1471
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You must have changed... in the 19th century, Irishmen couldn't be seconds to duellants because part of the second's job was to negotiate a peaceful solution. The Irish were known for their bloodthirstyness and could not be trusted to really strive for a peaceful way out.
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1472
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Sometimes, maybe. Not always. And I find it somewhat disturbing that you think so, honestly. I know several people who not only don't love, but actively dislike, their mothers, whether said mother is only the one responsible for bearing them (my cousin, who effectively became my adoptive sister), or the one who raised them as well (my other sister, of sorts (she's actually someone I met on another site, but who I've since basically adopted as part of my family (and if you disagree with the premise that I'm as close to her as I would be a "real" sister, I'd like to ask just what evidence you have for saying that I'm not)), and a very close friend), because their mothers are terrible people. It doesn't seem to have stunted their capacity for love in the least.
Well, I imagine that's a different sort of rejection than this and one arrived at later in life than what was being discussed. To reject as other one's own mother is different from being the victim of physical abuse or realizing that one was raised by a caricature of a lawyer or anything between those two throwaway poles.

If you're talking about those with maternal issues being viewed as inhuman, you're preaching to the choir here, as that's merely my observation of how I've been viewed as a figure of horror and depravity for the rocky relationship I've had with my own mother.
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:18 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1473
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That is awful, but like Siuis said, it may be good for both of you to get a little time to se how things go, what will change and what won't. I do hope you two can stay friends at least. I'm so jealous of your boobs shoes by the way.

The whole Irish discrimination thing iskind of funny from a modern viewpoint, seeing as the U.S. basically has a festival where everyone pretends to be offensively stereotypically Irish, but in a fun rather than mocking way (in general) and at least where I am, that also becomes an annual festival of "What miniscule fraction of Irish blood do I have?"
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Well, I imagine that's a different sort of rejection than this and one arrived at later in life than what was being discussed. To reject as other one's own mother is different from being the victim of physical abuse or realizing that one was raised by a caricature of a lawyer or anything between those two throwaway poles.

If you're talking about those with maternal issues being viewed as inhuman, you're preaching to the choir here, as that's merely my observation of how I've been viewed as a figure of horror and depravity for the rocky relationship I've had with my own mother.
Depends on when the one under discussion was theoretically arrived at, I suppose. But yes, I can see how if that was the exact meaning it would probably be correct.

And I wasn't, exactly, though that's certainly something I have issues with as well, since that's happened to the aforementioned close friend as well. I'm not sure of the extent of it in your case (nor am I going to ask unless you feel like volunteering), so I'm not going to try to compare them, but... Yes. Not good at all, and very hard to get around, since giving the reasons for the problems tends to be seen as more proof that you're a terrible person.
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:03 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1475
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Yeah, they're there. I just umm...

I like the shoes better.
Whereas my first thought was "Damn, girl, you're skinnier than me!"
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The whole Irish discrimination thing iskind of funny from a modern viewpoint, seeing as the U.S. basically has a festival where everyone pretends to be offensively stereotypically Irish, but in a fun rather than mocking way (in general) and at least where I am, that also becomes an annual festival of "What miniscule fraction of Irish blood do I have?"
I dunno, I hear it's a right good hatefest as the real Irish get Malloy about all the plastic paddies touting clovers and beer and leprechauns and mixing them with the Scottish and makin up all these claims that aren't even really Irish. One of my favorites was a ten minute rant on the word 'begorrah', bringing in such things as green being The Color (I think Saint Patrick actually has his own particular shade of blue) and corned beef and cabbage being an American Irish immigrant thing. I didn't have the heart to say Begorrah makes as much sense as zounds.

Still, my forte take was the beer commercial with an Irishman walking to a bar, talking about that day of drink when all the world over, everyone shares the same nationality in the spirit of fun, and good company.





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Whereas my first thought was "Damn, girl, you're skinnier than me!"
Heck, she looks skinnier than me, and I've never seen that in a healthy individual before...

This was going to include a compliment for you Helio, but every phrasing sounds creepy. So I think you look nice and wish I looked more like you.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:01 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1477
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I dunno, I hear it's a right good hatefest as the real Irish get Malloy about all the plastic paddies touting clovers and beer and leprechauns and mixing them with the Scottish and makin up all these claims that aren't even really Irish. One of my favorites was a ten minute rant on the word 'begorrah', bringing in such things as green being The Color (I think Saint Patrick actually has his own particular shade of blue) and corned beef and cabbage being an American Irish immigrant thing. I didn't have the heart to say Begorrah makes as much sense as zounds.
Maybe, I'm mostly speaking from personal experience, and while there's always some irritation, it never struck me as a "hatefest" I'll admit I ted to take a rosy view of things like this until I actually see such things though. It's certainly not quite the same as the original discrimination back in the day. I don't know though.

I'll add to the chain of "wishing I looked more like" and assume based on your description of yourself, Siuis, that I should be jealous of your slimness. It's a Conga line of envy!

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Listening to a friend blare Auld Lang Syne on a bagpipe is a St. Patrick's Day tradition for me.
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I just spend the day saying, oh yeah, it's that thing, I forgot about it. So basically I treat it like 99% of everything else ever.
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I dunno who this guy is, but I kind of do agree with this new thing he has to say. Churches and other such organizations can happily ban that marriage in their organizations. But really... why do they care about OTHER organizations doing other things? It's like... if basketball players were really upset that football players don't bounce their balls like they do.

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I dunno who this guy is, but I kind of do agree with this new thing he has to say. Churches and other such organizations can happily ban that marriage in their organizations. But really... why do they care about OTHER organizations doing other things? It's like... if basketball players were really upset that football players don't bounce their balls like they do.
That's been one of my arguments before. It's a pretty obvious argument. The answer is usually fairly illogical.
I love the strawman "but we already have marriage equality, gays can marry people of the opposite sex just like anybody". It's really cute how politicians reword things to give them a different spin. "Marriage equality" instead of "homosexual marriage". They mean very different things if you actually think about it.
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:55 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1482
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I actually noticed her pants first. Those are really nice pants.

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Well, I imagine that's a different sort of rejection than this and one arrived at later in life than what was being discussed. To reject as other one's own mother is different from being the victim of physical abuse or realizing that one was raised by a caricature of a lawyer or anything between those two throwaway poles.

If you're talking about those with maternal issues being viewed as inhuman, you're preaching to the choir here, as that's merely my observation of how I've been viewed as a figure of horror and depravity for the rocky relationship I've had with my own mother.
*Hugs* I find it odd how most people react when I say I don't like either of my parents. Those who don't just write me off as whiny seem to have an easier time believing I have problems with my dad than my mom for some reason. Also, it's kind of ironic that most of the things people blame for it (like how I was perpetually angry growing up) actually resulted from taking their advice. >.>


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Poor form. Also ignores that there are indeed women who are tenors.



I'm always a fan of more poetry in my life, and everyone knows you can only discuss the character of a lady's face while she's present in verse.
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The whole Irish discrimination thing iskind of funny from a modern viewpoint, seeing as the U.S. basically has a festival where everyone pretends to be offensively stereotypically Irish, but in a fun rather than mocking way (in general) and at least where I am, that also becomes an annual festival of "What miniscule fraction of Irish blood do I have?"
That's because the Irish seem to have a dark sense of humor where fooling around (read testing your liver's limits) on their national holiday is actually funny. A friend of mine quoted Boondock Saints "It's St. Patricksday, everyone is irish on St. Pats."

On another note, isn't it time for a next thread? We seem to have reached the 50 page limit.

*sets Lixie free* this has gone on long enough for now
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I dunno, I hear it's a right good hatefest as the real Irish get Malloy about all the plastic paddies touting clovers and beer and leprechauns and mixing them with the Scottish and makin up all these claims that aren't even really Irish. One of my favorites was a ten minute rant on the word 'begorrah', bringing in such things as green being The Color (I think Saint Patrick actually has his own particular shade of blue) and corned beef and cabbage being an American Irish immigrant thing. I didn't have the heart to say Begorrah makes as much sense as zounds.
Corned beef?


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Oi, laddies and lasses, we have a new thread.
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