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Re: Fire Emblem- Odyssey of the Nautilus- 12 people on waiting list!
Well, I made Vera's portrait, but since I haven't done sprite work in a long time, I'd appreciate it if anyone gives me any tips as to if I did anything wrong/how to make it look better. For some reason, doesn't look quite right to me...maybe the color scheme doesn't look too good? Or maybe the hair?
Last edited by AncientSpark : 10-01-2012 at 09:59 AM.
Re: Fire Emblem- Odyssey of the Nautilus- 12 people on waiting list!
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Originally Posted by Sairyu
Pegasus healer (+magic type) is something that's just so mobile that I would consider it a promoted class, like Valkryie (except flying). That's the point at which it can be solved through class-cap manipulation. Pre-20 nobody cares because all your caps are 20 and PbP games take so long to get past there that it's almost something that you can plan around, no offense RP, not happening.
No offense taken.
And to make a long story short for everyone: No healing flying types, no magic user flying types until maybe late in the game.
The gm has spoken, let's move on.
Edit: Spark: The portrait looks very nice to me.
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So, my sword-knight's stats, figured I should put these out here as I hammer out my story and sprites.
Stat
Base
Growth
Hp
24
90%
Str
9
60%
Skl
5
40%
Spd
5
35%
Lck
1
20%
Def
8
50%
Res
0
25%
Con
13
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Background:
Spoiler
Born of earth and stone, _ was a powerful earth elemental, one who had been in conflict with the other planes on several occasions. As he grew in age, his mind developed further, and he began to dabble in philosophy and literature, which, as a being of earth who spends their lives shuffling around in the ground, are alien to all but other earth elemental. But no life of interest is born without conflict.
A rogue mage attacked _ and his people while they were at war with the water elementals, and _ alone stood to crush the puny spell-caster. His bravery was his undoing. Awash in a spray of magic he had never seen, _ was transformed and transported to the elemental plane of water, with only the mage’s laughing in his ears, a sound he would never forget.
Upon awakening, and sleep was a foreign concept for him at the time, _ was nearly overwhelmed with the colors and smells of this strange new disk he was to live on. Never before had he experienced these senses, and his mind was shaken as he fumbled to understand what had happened to him.
As he grew used to this clumsy and relatively dense form, _ began to realize what he now was, a human. His sorrow at his own loss was stifled by his inability to express it, his mouth could barely produce the language he knew. His body was unable to meld and shift through the earth, his once mighty fists were reduced to frail human hands, he felt defenseless and weak. That was, until he met his first humans.
He towered over all, over seven feet in height by human reckoning, and out massing them by several hundred of their degrees, all that saw him assumed he was a great warrior and brawler. Many were patient with him as he learned to speak and understand how to survive, and soon enough, he was functional enough to get along on his own, in the wild, accompanied by his only companions he desired, the ground beneath his feet.
Re: Fire Emblem- Odyssey of the Nautilus- 12 people on waiting list!
Can we promote bow mounted knights/velociriders into rangers and use their caps/promotion bonuses? Paladins have no particularly special qualities and I'm already playing a balanced mounted knight build.
Re: Fire Emblem- Odyssey of the Nautilus- 12 people on waiting list!
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Originally Posted by Illven
@Rising phoenix Nyna is playing Wylia, not my mage Nina
Ulp...my bad :P.
Ok, seems that the stream of messages is slowing down. This is good XD.
ZeltAzurin: The growths and BP check out.
WnW: hmm... Rangers get a base move of +1 is that right plus the use of swords and bows. Is that right? So in the end you will have a base move of 7 + bows and swords + higher caps, but less versatility and move (though you are able to leap twice). That seems ok to me, unless someone wants to place a more educated analysis.
nohbdy: the background is good :)
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That would be a scary thing to see.
Yeah, considering it'll probably mean a mental disorder for me. Or some sort of character made real thing, in which case, where would we keep her?
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Originally Posted by Rising Phoenix
Ulp...my bad :P.
Ok, seems that the stream of messages is slowing down. This is good XD.
ZeltAzurin: The growths and BP check out.
WnW: hmm... Rangers get a base move of +1 is that right plus the use of swords and bows. Is that right? So in the end you will have a base move of 7 + bows and swords + higher caps, but less versatility and move (though you are able to leap twice). That seems ok to me, unless someone wants to place a more educated analysis.
nohbdy: the background is good :)
The only thing I notice weird is that WnW would be able to leap over a wall, snipe some guy, then leap back.
Re: Fire Emblem- Odyssey of the Nautilus- 12 people on waiting list!
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Originally Posted by Illven
Magic cavaliers not so much, I mean in Sairyu's game I don't feel out shined by Paris, (Dark wielding mounted) (I'm Anima foot)
Paris also has skill as one of her lowest initial stats. Were she skillful and faster, it might be a problem.
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Originally Posted by Illven
aje8's. (Course that may be because Penguinator forgot to boost Paris's Con, and she takes a 2 spd hit from Flux, but...)
I didn't forget. I assumed we were using the forum emblem fixed books that gave Flux a Con of like, 5. So I didn't account for it. It was an oversight, and it's annoying as all get out.
Really, for a character that I thought was optimized well, she's rather poor as of now. (Optimized being, she has 50+% growths in every stat but one)
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Originally Posted by AncientSpark
Well, I made Vera's portrait, but since I haven't done sprite work in a long time, I'd appreciate it if anyone gives me any tips as to if I did anything wrong/how to make it look better. For some reason, doesn't look quite right to me...maybe the color scheme doesn't look too good? Or maybe the hair?
I think it's that there should be more head under the bandana. It's not the hair, it's the lack of head. Rather than tweaking the head, however, I would tweak the bandana itself. A few pixels off near the front of her head, I think.
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Re: Fire Emblem- Odyssey of the Nautilus- 12 people on waiting list!
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Originally Posted by Penguinator
Put it this way. If Rangers could do that in-game, (The GBA ones, anyway) I would never make Gerik a Hero.
Roger...
Ok one leap it is...
and the propmotion bonuses are stolen from Sairyus thread:
Veloci Rider Promo to Veloci Ranger:
+3HP, +2STR, +1SKL, +1SPD, +3DEF, +3RES, +1CON, +1MOV
gain use of 1 additional weapon type (sword, axe, lance or bow). No extra uses of leap ability per turn...
I still want to have a double ability though someplace. I will have to design with a bit more care...My guess would be that the caps will certainly be a lot lower than rangers and perhaps a bit weaker than Paladin... anyway food for thought. I have to work now...
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Re: Fire Emblem- Odyssey of the Nautilus- 12 people on waiting list!
I thought the promoted raptors gained the double leap in lieu of an additional weapon, actually. So bow-lock is a reasonable disadvantage to make up for it.
Re: Fire Emblem- Odyssey of the Nautilus- 12 people on waiting list!
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Originally Posted by Penguinator
Paris also has skill as one of her lowest initial stats. Were she skillful and faster, it might be a problem.
I didn't forget. I assumed we were using the forum emblem fixed books that gave Flux a Con of like, 5. So I didn't account for it. It was an oversight, and it's annoying as all get out.
Really, for a character that I thought was optimized well, she's rather poor as of now. (Optimized being, she has 50+% growths in every stat but one)
I think it's that there should be more head under the bandana. It's not the hair, it's the lack of head. Rather than tweaking the head, however, I would tweak the bandana itself. A few pixels off near the front of her head, I think.
Where this? Besides Thesummoner's system every game has dark magic as heavy stuff.
Hopefully we get a body ring for Paris, or you can use custom promotion bonuses to boost your Con really high.
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Originally Posted by Rising Phoenix
I kinda want them to be able to do that though... but given the very high caps for Ranger, maybe not such a good idea?
Yeah, besides Lillian's mastery of the triangle with reaver weapons, I'm stuck thinking of a time she'd be better then WaW.
Re: Fire Emblem- Odyssey of the Nautilus- 12 people on waiting list!
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Originally Posted by Water_and_Wind
I thought the promoted raptors gained the double leap in lieu of an additional weapon, actually. So bow-lock is a reasonable disadvantage to make up for it.
EDIT: Ok I'll go with the above.
...I thought I had said that (you do not gain an additional weapon)...uhmm... hang on folks let me get all the info in one post so that I know exactly what I have said...
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Veloci Rider Promo to Veloci Ranger:
+3HP, +2STR, +1SKL, +1SPD, +3DEF, +3RES, +1CON, +1MOV gain use of 1 additional weapon type (sword, axe, lance or bow). No extra uses of leap ability per turn...
Male ranger caps.
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Raptor Rider
Promotes to: Royal Raptor Rider (seriously I am crap at naming things, call it whatever you want)
These guys are exactly like mounted knights with the following properties: They have one less move, but have the ‘leap’ ability. This allows them to jump a terrain that penalizes movement or a wall so long as there’s a space on the other side that can be occupied. They cannot jump over enemy units. This ability can be utilized once per player phase. Upon promotion they can use it twice, allowing them to utilize hit and run tactics behind cover/walls however they do not gain the use of an additional weapon type.
Ok I had not originally specified that they do not gain additional weapons. Bold means that it's an ammedment.
So cons: One less move than standard mounted units. Locked to the use of one weapon type.
Pros: Leap ability allowing them to effectively canto over a wall upon promotion, better caps.
This sound better?
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Originally Posted by Illven
Yeah, besides Lillian's mastery of the triangle with reaver weapons, I'm stuck thinking of a time she'd be better then WaW.
Paladins are pretty good units because they can have 'good enough' stats in offense and defense, plus mobility. Imeena wipes the floor with almost anything, for example.
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Originally Posted by Rising Phoenix
...I thought I had said that (you do not gain an additional weapon)...uhmm... hang on folks let me get all the info in one post so that I know exactly what I have said...
Oh then I'll shut up..... Bow lock sucks, and I feel WaW's pain.
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Originally Posted by Water_and_Wind
Paladins are pretty good units because they can have 'good enough' stats in offense and defense, plus mobility. Imeena wipes the floor with almost anything, for example.
Well yeah, but your bow rider would have better offenses and barely lose in defenses.
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Originally Posted by Water_and_Wind
Paladins are pretty good units because they can have 'good enough' stats in offense and defense, plus mobility. Imeena wipes the floor with almost anything, for example.
At the same time if one of their growths isn't reasonable or get rng screwed they can suck really, really bad...
I've summarised my posts on the Veloci issue on my previous post.
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Originally Posted by Rising Phoenix
At the same time if one of their growths isn't reasonable or get rng screwed they can suck really, really bad...
I've summarised my posts on the Veloci issue on my previous post.
Since we're using male ranger promotion bonuses, let's use their caps as well (females have better bonuses and worse caps). Now off to make some dino sprites...
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Originally Posted by Water_and_Wind
Since we're using male ranger promotion bonuses, let's use their caps as well (females have better bonuses and worse caps). Now off to make some dino sprites...
That's two votes in favour and yes, the caps will be fine. I expect most people to cap only a few stats anyhow.
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Originally Posted by ZeltArruin
Who is this ZeltAzurin fellow? He sounds handsome and smart.
I blame my dyslexic keyboard... Also jet lag... Also forum names that are jumbled up words/names...
Looks at the original party... so two healers... one tank (8 starting defense on a mounted knight?!)...and one glass canon... and what I expect to be a very speedy veloci rider (Clever girl ).
I will have to some number crunching for the enemies...
An... interesting party composition...The only other tank I can see on the way is Wylia which I (thankfully?) bumped up the recruitment list...Also Kasa's axe draco knight if she decides to go that way.
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That doesn't mean I went and looked at the items. Why are Dark tomes so damn heavy, anyway? It's horribly imbalanced.
I mean, just look at Ewan! He shouldn't be carrying those bricks!
I always figured using Fenrir in melee was just whacking the enemy over the head with it,
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Originally Posted by Rising Phoenix
I blame my dyslexic keyboard... Also jet lag... Also forum names that are jumbled up words/names...
Looks at the original party... so two healers... one tank (8 starting defense on a mounted knight?!)...and one glass canon... and what I expect to be a very speedy veloci rider (Clever girl ).
I will have to some number crunching for the enemies...
An... interesting party composition...The only other tank I can see on the way is Wylia which I (thankfully?) bumped up the recruitment list...Also Kasa's axe draco knight if she decides to go that way.
Thankfully if we use normal Fe 8 Myrm's and Mercs. Lillian is immune to level 1 iron sword wielding ones.
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