Sorry I need Chris to clarify and agree to the effects of the Crystals so I can act it out IC... btw Elricaltovilla you're either going to be involved in a Cthulu type mystery tour of the city and it's society of victims and shadows OR you can be a god and do whatever you want - up to you
Sorry! Was riding bus and walking home!
And I've realized I've not gotten my full 6 AP out of the crystals
They now do two extra things
1. The spark of Vylcent's magic in them is enough to trick a Denzien into thinking that it's a new person to play with so there's a better reason to interact with the crystal. (Trying to mess with it's shadow counts as interacting with it)
2. If a mortal touches one of the crystals they are instantly returned to their home. Shadow and all. Getting to the crystal though may be a challenge in and of itself in the first place though.
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And I've realized I've not gotten my full 6 AP out of the crystals
They now do two extra things
1. The spark of Vylcent's magic in them is enough to trick a Denzien into thinking that it's a new person to play with so there's a better reason to interact with the crystal. (Trying to mess with it's shadow counts as interacting with it)
2. If a mortal touches one of the crystals they are instantly returned to their home. Shadow and all. Getting to the crystal though may be a challenge in and of itself in the first place though.
you only spent 5 AP (counter to my counter to your 3 AP....)
And 2 is fair enough, but I sincerely think that the shadows will realize it sooner or later and will simply hang out at its event horizon. So you throughly released alot of shadows, but would you allow me to keep a fair amount... lets say 20? Remember I know a lot of gods are freaking out over Arlom and it's shadows... but the people it takes are a minuscule portion. Probably only 100 people max where ever inside him, then 100 were freed, 100 shadows remained, then at least 10 more people stumbled through the doors... so would you allow that the crystal tricked 80 % (80) shadows and will continue to trick 80% of all new shadows if people ever get out again?
you only spent 5 AP (counter to my counter to your 3 AP....)
And 2 is fair enough, but I sincerely think that the shadows will realize it sooner or later and will simply hang out at its event horizon. So you throughly released alot of shadows, but would you allow me to keep a fair amount... lets say 20? Remember I know a lot of gods are freaking out over Arlom and it's shadows... but the people it takes are a minuscule portion. Probably only 100 people max where ever inside him, then 100 were freed, 100 shadows remained, then at least 10 more people stumbled through the doors... so would you allow that the crystal tricked 80 % (80) shadows and will continue to trick 80% of all new shadows if people ever get out again?
Derp I meant 5 AP! I dunno how I got that mixed up! And yeah, that sounds fine.
Edit: Yeah, I expect the shadows to realize it's a trap. Did you mean 1. 2. or both?
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Might Alynaia borrow two AP from her sister, for purposes of hiding the Halcyon?
2 AP? Sure. It means hitting Lesser before rollover is a little more difficult, but I think I can still do it - just
So should Xia talk to the two who came out to see us then whilst you hide our sibling-children?
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Draken, you have been informed that your question is to go to the current leader of the Steelthorns. Bargain with that mortal. Bargain!
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So long as you know the AP spent will count towards Xia's domains and such...
Considering where I'm going for my next domain...concealment should tie right into it
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2 AP? Sure. It means hitting Lesser before rollover is a little more difficult, but I think I can still do it - just
So should Xia talk to the two who came out to see us then whilst you hide our sibling-children?
Sounds good. Do you want to play the leader of the Steelthorns, or should I? And which kind are they, in either case?
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Sounds good. Do you want to play the leader of the Steelthorns, or should I? And which kind are they, in either case?
Steel instead of thorn in this case. And I'll play him/it/her. You make sure Halcyon is safe.
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Might as well just say that what happened with the crystals I fully expected to happen.
Glad I didn't disappoint. Long time from now if i get 6 AP to waste I might counter the curse in some interesting fashion... but right now I like the way they are.
Correct. The city of the Tel-Velharan.
Also known as Ciarathra.
Which by the way, predates the unnatural construction of the predatory city of Veta.
None of the shell cities are predatory cities.... all cities are predatory ones, even the natural ones. The cities that Arlom raises are simply better planned and better constructed than cities from mortal hands.
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Also to reiterate how Arlom's doors work. They are rare. Really really rare. They appear as either magical fantasy doors or regular doors. They appear in places you wouldn't really look for them. An alleyway, a bathroom stall, an abandoned house. They are urban legends. Very very few people actually get into Arlom. Super small amount. Perhaps one person every couple years. Usually a teenager, an orphan, homeless person - the disenfranchised. I'm surprised the gods even notice these disappearance, it implies the gods have this creepy big brother mentality over each single portion of their race... but oh well, i'm sort of glad that when you look at it like that the good gods are IMO infinitely more intrusive than Arolm . Also before Xia gets mad... remember- you step through the door yourself, it doesn't suck you in. You open the door and see something you dont expect on the other side: a whole new city. It's your choice and your choice alone...
None of the shell cities are predatory cities.... all cities are predatory ones, even the natural ones. The cities that Arlom raises are simply better planned and better constructed than cities from mortal hands.
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Also to reiterate how Arlom's doors work. They are rare. Really really rare. They appear as either magical fantasy doors or regular doors. They appear in places you wouldn't really look for them. An alleyway, a bathroom stall, an abandoned house. They are urban legends. Very very few people actually get into Arlom. Super small amount. Perhaps one person every couple years. Usually a teenager, an orphan, homeless person - the disenfranchised. I'm surprised the gods even notice these disappearance, it implies the gods have this creepy big brother mentality over each single portion of their race... but oh well, i'm sort of glad that when you look at it like that the good gods are IMO infinitely more intrusive than Arolm . Also before Xia gets mad... remember- you step through the door yourself, it doesn't suck you in. You open the door and see something you dont expect on the other side: a whole new city. It's your choice and your choice alone...
Good. I'll lock them when I have AP. If that's alright.
And it's not a creepy big brother mentality. It's merely noticing the bending of space-time around the doors that were never put there. Space-time is supposed to be smooth!
Anyway... Velharan and his Brothers got rid of Veta because the disappearances started after it appeared. So they used logic and determined that that was related to the cause.
Also before Xia gets mad... remember- you step through the door yourself, it doesn't suck you in. You open the door and see something you dont expect on the other side: a whole new city. It's your choice and your choice alone...
Ah, then that stops you being her primary target. Probably...
And more to the point, in that case you will never have Steelthorns showing up in Arlom - unless they're there to invade. I can state that with full knowledge of the mentality of the race.
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Good. I'll lock them when I have AP. If that's alright.
And it's not a creepy big brother mentality. It's merely noticing the bending of space-time around the doors that were never put there. Space-time is supposed to be smooth!
Anyway... Velharan and his Brothers got rid of Veta because the disappearances started after it appeared. So they used logic and determined that that was related to the cause.
Space time is very smooth. Its a dapper dude in silver armor that is also a massive monument in the middle of a mute city.
Good. I'll lock them when I have AP. If that's alright.
And it's not a creepy big brother mentality. It's merely noticing the bending of space-time around the doors that were never put there. Space-time is supposed to be smooth!
Anyway... Velharan and his Brothers got rid of Veta because the disappearances started after it appeared. So they used logic and determined that that was related to the cause.
Still pretty big brothery... one or two mortals out of thousands or more disappear . And lock them up if you want... Arlom is the very concept of Urbanity, if cities still stand he will still be there.
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Ah, then that stops you being her primary target. Probably...
And more to the point, in that case you will never have Steelthorns showing up in Arlom - unless they're there to invade. I can state that with full knowledge of the mentality of the race.
So none of your race ever feels dejected... lost... forgotten? Struck with curiosity, wanderlust, escapism, adventure?
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FYI I'm not arguing against you guys trying to stop Arlom... he's not that terrible of a guy, but he's not really nice.
Still pretty big brothery... one or two mortals out of thousands or more disappear . And lock them up if you want... Arlom is the very concept of Urbanity, if cities still stand he will still be there.
FYI I'm not arguing against you guys trying to stop Arlom... he's not that terrible of a guy, but he's not really nice.
Got no problem with Arlom existing. Just with him tempting mortals by leaving alluring things for their curiosity to explore.
And urbanity means something that has nothing to do with cities. It's more to do with civility, courtesy and politeness.
Got no problem with Arlom existing. Just with him tempting mortals by leaving alluring things for their curiosity to explore.
And urbanity means something that has nothing to do with cities. It's more to do with civility, courtesy and politeness.
Not the way arlom uses it. Lmao
And yes arlom is a fisherman as well as a fisher king lol
So none of your race ever feels dejected... lost... forgotten? Struck with curiosity, wanderlust, escapism, adventure?
Honestly and in order: No, no, no, yes, yes, no, yes.
However there are always other options for them to follow instead of stepping through a portal into a strange city. Steelthorn society emphasises the health of the one in the good of the many. And - due to what Alynaia gave them - they're tied into an emotional web that lets them know if one of their fellows is feeling upset or down. So they always know.
Also; gogo-gadget race-with-common-sense.
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Some of the Sufferhearts (the thorn side of Steelthorns) might. Not sure about Xia's half, but that's my interpretation of my portion. *shrugs*
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Damn you and your comprehensive understanding of synergistic tactics. :|
Some of the Sufferhearts (the thorn side of Steelthorns) might. Not sure about Xia's half, but that's my interpretation of my portion. *shrugs*
Point. Although methinks the empathic web will still likely have an effect.
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Honestly and in order: No, no, no, yes, yes, no, yes.
However there are always other options for them to follow instead of stepping through a portal into a strange city. Steelthorn society emphasises the health of the one in the good of the many. And - due to what Alynaia gave them - they're tied into an emotional web that lets them know if one of their fellows is feeling upset or down. So they always know.
Also; gogo-gadget race-with-common-sense.
Minmax... senses... tingling... can't... control...basic speech... functions... too many... syllables... lost feat.... greater cleave....
Point. Although methinks the empathic web will still likely have an effect.
Indeed. They're still more likely to get depressed, or otherwise dissatisfied - having what sparks your life be the embodiment of mental, emotion, and physical suffering does tend to do that - but the ones which actually have some cause for feeling like that rather than it being a side-effect of Alynaia's spark (Sparkeaten being only about five percent of the Sufferhearts) are probably tended to more than they would be in most societies, albeit not with perfect accuracy, at it's only limited empathy, not full telepathy; that was written when I hadn't considered them having an empathic hivemind, as I'd been assuming that, unless it was quite strong indeed, they had to try to sense pain, though this works fine too.
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Elrical, they're a legendary race. I don't think it's unreasonable to make them rather powerful when they cost us as much as making an entire plane.
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I support the godly magazine idea, and hope that Eld can serve as mix of town crier and incredibly deadpan game show host in some sections. Also, for some odd reason, he will also make appearance when it comes to godly fashion tips, for even if he is grim reaper he will be the most bishounen god there is. Just you wait
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Damn you and your comprehensive understanding of synergistic tactics. :|
@V-Brothers: We need to work out a way to combine the light of the souls with the semitransparent bodies of the Quartzians so that they can start Firin' Their Lazers at people I don't like
Minmax... senses... tingling... can't... control...basic speech... functions... too many... syllables... lost feat.... greater cleave....
What C'Nor said. And also this:
Not all of the Steelthorn/Sufferheart's powers have been revealed so far. Mainly because some of them need certain concepts to exist before they can come into being.
And considering - as C'Nor said - this cost as much as making a plane (and taking into account examples of Legendary Races in D&D and suchlike) I think that's reasonable.
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Not all of the Steelthorn/Sufferheart's powers have been revealed so far. Mainly because some of them need certain concepts to exist before they can come into being.
And considering - as C'Nor said - this cost as much as making a plane (and taking into account examples of Legendary Races in D&D and suchlike) I think that's reasonable.
It was a joke. I'll go back and add a face if you like.