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Old 10-09-2012, 10:27 AM   Top  -  End  -  #691
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Yup. The Endless Forest is a very weird and dangerous place. Dire Animals, mad beasts from the Honeycomb, sentient trees, all manner of different herbs and mushrooms... And if you're deeply unlucky, Arathor himself.
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Hey, would anyone like to create Nous?

Also, it seems like Arlom has given a general invitation to allow gods to travel through him and act within him, but how would one contact him? Or is that even necessary since Nous wouldn't even know that Arlom was a god? It seems like the one place all the mortals can get to, albeit difficultly, without having to build a new infrastructure.
The only way to talk to Arlom is by having Ing'dras translate (Gjol Maduur can probably translate too, but he is not always there and is kind of antisocial too), which means you would have to be in the Plaza of the Vast Gate which is at the center of the city.

Also, I will usually let mystic answer to people in Arlom first, before sending the Ing around.
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I should. I really, really, should. But it's been far too long since I did anything with the Greek myths; all of my recent stuff has dealt with the Morrigna, save for a tiny bit involving some of the Norse deities. However, having looked them up just now, I'd say that the Sufferhearts certainly have a fair bit of Alecto in them, in that they they tend to be rather... relentless... when provoked, though unfortunately, information on Tisiphone was rather minimnal.
Heh, I only know those names so well because of a sci-fi novel - In Fury Born if anyone's interested.

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So, yeah. Probably a mix of Alecto and Tisiphone for the Sufferhearts with what's left of Alecto's component and all of Megaira in the Steelthorns.

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As far as just taking it, maybe. Sufferhearts are, overall, the most mentally and emotionally messed up of the Steelthorns. They carry a piece of the embodiment of all pain within them, as the very thing that gives them life, so that strongly tinges their personalities, at the very least. Even with the empathic web, these are not well-adjusted people.

On The Hedge, Snowfire is correct. You break through the veil it puts up, and as long as you stay within sight or other detection of it, you can find it. Since, when it's just jumped, it causes ripples, of a sort, at its point of departure, which vary depending on where it's going, and also weakened the barrier between those two points by a small amount, which the Hedge, respectively, can't entirely mask or fully repair, it costs less to do so if you were tracking it when it did so, but the fact remains that it's protected by the Hedge, and you lost track of it for a short time.
Fair point on the Sufferhearts, and truth be told they're your 'half' so to speak.

Also, (Sisters of) Steel and Suffering work for you as pantheon name? If so, which would you prefer - the one with the bracketed stuff or without it?
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A mix of Alecto and Tisiphone, then, yes. Relentless, and prone to being overzealous in a lot of cases. At its best, this general fervor makes them tireless and enthusiastic; at worst, it means that they're nigh-unstoppable zealots.

And I'm fine with either. Though if we're going to ever let other people in, which we might want to consider, as I'm fairly certain we won't actually be getting more AP from this until we have three people, and that we can't join others without leaving this one, just Steel and Suffering would probably work better.
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Hey, would anyone like to create Nous?

Also, it seems like Arlom has given a general invitation to allow gods to travel through him and act within him, but how would one contact him? Or is that even necessary since Nous wouldn't even know that Arlom was a god? It seems like the one place all the mortals can get to, albeit difficultly, without having to build a new infrastructure.
You can only understand the language of the streets if you are insane or an eldritch god. I would talk to Ing'dras to translate - or you can just talk out loud and hope Arlom understands and answers with action.
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You can only understand the language of the streets if you are insane or an eldritch god.
Um, not to be a bother, but I think that would require some form of AP expenditure. Just going "yeah, you can't understand me because I'm just that strange" doesn't really strike me as fair. We're Gods. If you want to make yourself incapable of being understood by anyone other than your pantheon, fine. But I don't think that's something you can just have be that way without some sort of expenditure.

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A mix of Alecto and Tisiphone, then, yes. Relentless, and prone to being overzealous in a lot of cases. At its best, this general fervor makes them tireless and enthusiastic; at worst, it means that they're nigh-unstoppable zealots.
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And I'm fine with either. Though if we're going to ever let other people in, which we might want to consider, as I'm fairly certain we won't actually be getting more AP from this until we have three people, and that we can't join others without leaving this one, just Steel and Suffering would probably work better.
I'll do Steel and Suffering for now. And we get AP regardless - which does raise the amusing question of single god pantheons granting additional AP.

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That is just flavor with no mechanical connotations, similar to the appearance of the gods, actually.

There is no enforcing of Arlom's non-understandability, he is pretty much just mute and speaking in sign language, Ing'dras is just used to his gesticulations.

It is more RP fodder than anything.
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I would argue that it does have mechanical connotations, in the same manner as if the Steelthorns appeared to be demigods due to just fluff. But, hey, opinion is opinion and I won't argue further.
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Well, that's new. And yes, it does. Personally, I'd rule that it has to have had at least two deities in it at one point to grant AP, but that if it gets reduced to one after that, you can be assumed to be gaining strength from the memory of the fallen/past betrayals, etc.

And I think Arlom may have Inconceivable? If so, I'd say that it's perfectly reasonable.

Otherwise, it does seem a bit odd, now that you mention it. Though admittedly, from what I've seen, the language of the streets is some weird thing Arlom has made on his own, much like if Alynaia decided to talk by transmitting various painful memories, and altering the way her thorns are; Xia might know her well enough to say what she's saying, but, say, Valmyr, not so much.
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I would argue that it does have mechanical connotations, in the same manner as if the Steelthorns appeared to be demigods due to just fluff. But, hey, opinion is opinion and I won't argue further.
Well tricking someone into thinking you're divine is not quite the same as choosing to speak through another player.

Gods can choose to speak only to whoever they want. In the other god game I'm apart of, my god has a habit of using illusions to speak privately with one god during periods in which all the gods have gathered. Sort of like a private message conversation during a video call.
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The Marquis can do so, should you not mind. Anyway in particular?

Thanks. Please, take license. One idea off the top of my head could be that The Marquis is disappointed that mortals are not using his creations in a way that is remotely close to their potential. Medicines capable of healing any sickness, poisons so powerful they could kill entire cities, even biological super-weapons. An organized study would be useful but, being a chaotic trickster god, he is not well suited for the task and would grow impatient trying to teach silly humans how to think and just telling them would be no fun.
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Hey, wonder if Ing'dras can show up in Vylcent's Nightmares. (Not as a part of the nightmares though)
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You can only understand the language of the streets if you are insane or an eldritch god. I would talk to Ing'dras to translate - or you can just talk out loud and hope Arlom understands and answers with action.

What reason would I have to even know that Arlom is even a deity until he acted in a way that made it clear?
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Hey, wonder if Ing'dras can show up in Vylcent's Nightmares. (Not as a part of the nightmares though)
As the God of Travels, Ing'dras can go anywhere he pleases.

He is specially capable of going into himself, which is where all dreaming happens to begin with.
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Did Ing'dras make it a Decree that all dreams are of the past? Because I sort of want to give the Sufferhearts nightmares that haven't happened, except they don't necessarily know that, because the other dreams are real.
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What reason would I have to even know that Arlom is even a deity until he acted in a way that made it clear?
You don't ... 2 out of the 3 lords of light didn't know Arlom was a god... Only Vylcent figured it out. For the most part gods just think he is a messed up city controlled by the other two aberrant lords
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Did Ing'dras make it a Decree that all dreams are of the past? Because I sort of want to give the Sufferhearts nightmares that haven't happened, except they don't necessarily know that, because the other dreams are real.
Ing'dras did, in fact, degree that all dreams are the past.

But one thing about time is that the only thing that is certain for any given person is the Moment, namely, Ing'dras himself, who encompasses and defines the present.

Future and Past, that which has yet to cross The Vast Gate and that which has already crossed it, are an endless string of pasts realized and not, endless strings of alternative timelines that are woven together into the present for only the briefest of moments before fraying off into the foundations of history.

Most dreams are, in fact, of things that never happened (such as Vylcent's current nightmares), because from the viewpoint of any given individual at any given moment, more possible events never came to pass than they did (for frame of reference, everything that goes IC is, for these intents and purposes, 'the alpha timeline', and anything else is an unrealized past, while all futures are by definition unrealized, since they couldn't even have happened to begin with).

Alynaia could go into Ing'dras and pull a few strings to make sure that the sufferhearts don't see any true events if she wants.
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Well, the thing is, she doesn't want to do it; if anything, she'd intercede with Ing'dras on their behalf, or a Sufferheart would go talk to him to get it to stop. It would just be part of the side-effects of her spark.

And I don't particularly mind them having some true dreams, I was just hoping to give them various nightmares based on their greatest fears, etc. Though that bit about alternate realities does mean that her spark drawing in twisted parts of their own pasts to haunt them, whether bad experiences made worse or good ones subtly wrong, would work quite well.
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That is possible too.
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I'm trying to wait for someone to help Vylcent... but I guess I can have him wake up on his own if I really need to.
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I'm trying to wait for someone to help Vylcent... but I guess I can have him wake up on his own if I really need to.
Honestly, with the whole nightmares bit, I'm thinking of having Gjol Maduur show up and torment him, probe his mind if you will.
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I'm trying to wait for someone to help Vylcent... but I guess I can have him wake up on his own if I really need to.
If you really really want to get weird... you can have him wake up in a "hospital" in Arlom and get ready for an adventure
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Either/Both sounds fine
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We should also wait for Gotham to post his action - I assume Bharus intends to get in on this.
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Gjol Maduur shows up in his nightmares, Vylcent fends him off, flees through Ing'Dras, and falls unconscious in Arlom. Later wakes up dressed in a straight jacket in an all white room with the words "Beware the Mayor" written on the walls over and over. For some reason you don't think to use your godly powers - when the door opens... welcome to madness
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I was going to say this will make Ensirex finding Vlycent harder

but I think I mean, it will make it more interesting.

More interesting still, if Vlycent wakes up as a mental patient in a hospital in a divine city, with the universe's most disturbing mad scientist/surgeon standing over him...
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I was going to say this will make Ensirex finding Vlycent harder

but I think I mean, it will make it more interesting.

More interesting still, if Vlycent wakes up as a mental patient in a hospital in a divine city, with the universe's most disturbing mad scientist/surgeon standing over him...
Yes, Yes, Yes...

Maybe Ensirex can make Nous as a student in the mental ward...
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Ah, excellent, Gjol Maduur has turned up to get involved in the fight. That makes us three gods apiece.

Bharus vs Gjol Maduur, perhaps, while everyone else squares off with their already stated opponent?

Yay, mass conflict...
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Yes, Yes, Yes...

Maybe Ensirex can make Nous as a student in the mental ward...
Er, what do you mean by Nous?
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Default Re: Lords of Creation: Omnigenesis [OOC]

Nous: is an approved but currently not created god.

Also I was going to be busy...but I have one question nagging question darklord....

Why is Gjol Maduur so suicidal? Seriously he loves getting into conflicts which he is unprepared for and outgunned....
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