Soragakure OOC III - Why Do We Have 3 Of These? - Page 22

Bad Situation · 10-14-2012, 05:58 PM

Well, then I'll activate Speed Rank 1 and move 80ft westward.

My Hide/MS checks are now 23 each.

TraceHyde · 10-14-2012, 06:00 PM

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You've had a long time to learn the puppet rules, but they're pretty simple. You control two bodies, but still retain the same set of actions. You can give up a standard/move/full-round to let Shanghai use the appropriate type of action.

I.E: Amon uses her Move Action to move 15ft, then gives up her Standard Action to let Shanghai use a Standard Action. Shanghai can use that standard action to attack, or convert it to a move action to move, or use a technique with it.

That all? Huh. I got that part down easy. I just kept thinking there was some trick I was missing. In that case, I got this.

TraceHyde · 10-14-2012, 06:37 PM

For some reason it keeps saying there's a new message in this forum even when there isn't. Anyway, robably my lats post for tonight unless zeone posts in 10 minutes.

Can i spend AP on my puppet? In this case I obviously don't have to at least.

With any luck I'll take that ninjutsu specialist out before they use a single move. Shanghai is carrying all her weaponry on her back, by the way. She's not exactly in stealth mode here.

ZN, i have one more action I could take (yay, Heroic Surge) but it's effectiveness depends on whether or not that ninja failed their fort save against unconsciousness. Can you roll that now before my turn ends?

TraceHyde · 10-14-2012, 06:53 PM

Oh, here's a fun though. Shanghai, as per her original description, is human-like enough to require a DC 15 spot check to identify her as a puppet (which, as we're in combat, people won't be able to take 10 on). I know what you're thinking "Oh, Trace, who cares if she's a puppet or living -she has an armoury full of poisoned weapons strapped to her back, they'll attack her anyway." Yes, but it's a matter of HOW they'll attack Shanghai. They used that really powerful move against Yousuke which gives a Fort save and targets the lungs - hell, it even does Con damage, meaning Shanghai would basically be immune to it.

ZeroNumerous · 10-14-2012, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TraceHyde

Can i spend AP on my puppet? In this case I obviously don't have to at least.

Yes.

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Shanghai is carrying all her weaponry on her back, by the way. She's not exactly in stealth mode here.

Did Amon give her a backpack then? Because Shanghai doesn't have slots to carry anything other than what's in her hands.

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ZN, i have one more action I could take (yay, Heroic Surge) but it's effectiveness depends on whether or not that ninja failed their fort save against unconsciousness. Can you roll that now before my turn ends?

Sure. Fort Save: (1d20+4)[11]. She fails and falls unconscious. Also: I don't see where Nemuri's duration is listed, so could you get me a page number on that?

TraceHyde · 10-14-2012, 07:02 PM

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Did Amon give her a backpack then? Because Shanghai doesn't have slots to carry anything other than what's in her hands.

Really? Well, Amon's had a week to investigate Shanghai and her own style of using it and make adjustments as necessary. Adding a rucksack-sheathe combination would have been trivial (craft mechanical (1d20+16)[20])

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Sure. Fort Save: (1d20+16)[20]. She fails and falls unconscious. Also: I don't see where Nemuri's duration is listed, so could you get me a page number on that?

In the poison section (see new use: Craft (chemical)), when it's discussing secondary damage, about 3 lines down, it talks about the generic duration of unconsciousness and paralysis. For all such poisons, it's 1d3 hours for unconsciousness and 2d6 minutes for paralysis unless stated otherwise. page 80 I think

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I know I keep banging on about this, but did we really find no trace of Cybele's crystal?

TraceHyde · 10-14-2012, 07:07 PM

Hmmm... yeah, I end my turn. I think B2 is in Shanghai's reach (she's using a spear, just south of B1). Don't want to streal these melee type's thunder too much - I have one captured alive, that should do nicely...

It's all you now, Houshi. Please resist the temptation to get into a swordfight - it would be more effective to whack the remaining ninjutsu specialist before he uses a technique - or at least threaten him or something. Optimum space would be 10 feet east of N2, 10 feet south of S2. ~~No, 5 feet east of N2 so he can't 5 foot step away. yeah, that would do nicely.-~~ no wait, the only places s/he could 5 foot step into are threatened by Shanghai anyway.

ZeroNumerous · 10-14-2012, 07:22 PM

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Really? Well, Amon's had a week to investigate Shanghai and her own style of using it and make adjustments as necessary. Adding a rucksack-sheathe combination would have been trivial (craft mechanical [roll0])

Amon cannot mechanically modify Shanghai as Amon does not have the Craft Human Puppets feat. She can give the girl a backpack to carry her things, but that's it.

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I know I keep banging on about this, but did we really find no trace of Cybele's crystal?

You found nothing but scraps of clothing.

@Shanghai's position. You must charge to the closest place to strike someone. So Shanghai is five feet southeast of B1, as that's the closest straight line between Shanghai and N2.

TraceHyde · 10-14-2012, 07:29 PM

Well yeah, a backpack isn't much of a modificatuon to the core, is it? just clothing, really.

Shanghai charged N1 though, not N2. i saw N1 hadn't taken her turn yet (delaying) so i targeted N1 to take her out. Just south of B1 is the closest square to Shanghai, so that's where I charged to. She's just north east of N2, who she hasn't attacked yet, after dropping N1. She has reach from her spear, so she doesn't threaten N2 at this moment.

ZeroNumerous · 10-14-2012, 07:34 PM

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Shanghai charged N1 though, not N2. i saw N1 hadn't taken her turn yet (delaying) so i targeted N1 to take her out. Just south of B1 is the closest square to Shanghai, so that's where I charged to.

Oh. I assumed she attacked N2. In that case Shanghai triggers N1's readied action by attacking her. Shanghai needs a DC 15 Reflex Save or she takes (6d6)[20] Wind damage.

TraceHyde · 10-14-2012, 07:38 PM

Oh no, what terrible damage (puppets are suddenly awesome since I can heal her by just de- and then re-animating her. Sure, pricey, but not impossible). I'll assume I use my own base reflex

(1d20+6)[21]

Alright, 10 damage, Shanghai can deal with that. Off to bed now.

ZeroNumerous · 10-14-2012, 09:06 PM

Oh man that's not good. Houshi just got crit with Spiral Shot. Luckily bonus damage dice aren't multiplied on criticals. Unfortunately it is a Greatbow, and that means x3 modifier.

Confirm Roll: (1d20+8)[22]
Extra Damage Roll: (2d8+2)[11]

EDIT: Unless my math is wrong, then that's a confirm. Houshi will take 22+11+8 or 41 damage from B2.

Bad Situation · 10-14-2012, 09:12 PM

I think that drops him into the negatives...

Does Houshi have Shundou?

ZeroNumerous · 10-14-2012, 09:13 PM

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Does Houshi have Shundou?

He does, but he doesn't have it mastered at all.

zeone3000 · 10-14-2012, 09:17 PM

So it doesn't matter and Houshi gets dropped like a sack of potatoes to -3. Lucky bitch.

ZeroNumerous · 10-14-2012, 09:18 PM

Before Houshi drops though, he gets his AoO against N2. Might be the last action Houshi ever takes, so make it count Zeone.

zeone3000 · 10-14-2012, 09:24 PM

As we've just learn, we have no control over the dice.

AoO
(1d20+12)[13]
(3d8+14)[29]

None whatsoever.

Bad Situation · 10-14-2012, 09:28 PM

So...if Shanghai doesn't drop the ninjutsu user Houshi is dead?

EDIT: Why does our luck keep souring so quickly?

ZeroNumerous · 10-14-2012, 09:29 PM

Yup. He doesn't get a Ref Save since he's unconscious, and even if he did save the 11 damage would drop him to -14.

Bad Situation · 10-14-2012, 09:32 PM

Can Shanghai even do enough damage to drop the girl?

ZeroNumerous · 10-14-2012, 09:34 PM

She's pretty weak, and Shanghai does... a 1d6+3, I think? So it's possible.

EDIT: 1d6+2. It's certainly possible.

EDIT#2: Huh. Shanghai should only deal 1d6+1, since Shanghai can only one-hand the small spear. That still leaves the possibility of stopping her, but it's much less likely now.

Bad Situation · 10-14-2012, 09:43 PM

If only we had rerolls to work with.

ZeroNumerous · 10-14-2012, 10:04 PM

If only Yousuke had given his cat doll to someone else before this mission started.

Well, either way, It's all up to Trace to stop Houshi from getting killed.

Do you have a second character lined up, Zeone?

zeone3000 · 10-14-2012, 10:13 PM

I have ideas, nothing set in stone.

ZeroNumerous · 10-14-2012, 10:29 PM

Might wanna start thinking abit harder on that then. Just in case.

Bad Situation · 10-14-2012, 10:31 PM

You could use one of my ideas.

Not the Uchiha Lunatic Eye though.

zeone3000 · 10-14-2012, 10:42 PM

You realize that we've been through two of these. I have no idea what your ideas even are.

TraceHyde · 10-15-2012, 02:27 AM

Actually the spear does 1d6+1+str somehow. I assumed it was masterwork. I really hope Houshi doesn't die. Clever bugger went and stepped adjacent to Shanghai when she has reach. Hmm... let me finish my tea - maybe I have a trick here. Dammit, I have Heroic Surge - I don't suppose that's any good for activating the sunburst tag outside my turn, is it?

TraceHyde · 10-15-2012, 02:44 AM

I guess it's too late for Houshi to use an action point on his AoO, right?

Is there anyway I could knock the guy with my shield? If I could do that at last we would be in my reach and I would be able to disrupt his concentration. And it might, for the sake of all Amon's hopes, set off the tag on Shanghai's shield from the vigorous motion, causing a dazing burst. Sure, that might also daze Mako and leave Amon to deal with these guys herself, but that's the risk she'll take to get Houshi to live for one more turn.

I'll be online again in 3 hours. If I haven't thought of anything clever, I'll just take my AoO and hope for the best

ZeroNumerous · 10-15-2012, 02:44 AM

The spear only does a 1d6+STR.

Her stuff. The sword deals 1d6+1+STR, and the lance deals 1d8+1+STR. The axe dals 1d8+3+STR. And they deal additional damage as a reason to use them aside from constantly using Spear+Shield or solo Lance.

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I guess it's too late for Houshi to use an action point on his AoO, right?

Nat 1, so it automatically misses.

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Is there anyway I could knock the guy with my shield?

~~Shanghai could attempt to use her shield as an improvised weapon, but I wouldn't suggest it. It won't set off the tag, because sunburst tags are only detonated via chakra.~~

Shanghai isn't proficient with improvised weapons, so she doesn't threaten the area around her with her shield.