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Old 10-02-2012, 06:02 PM   Top  -  End  -  #31
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Well, here we are: Agent Jeanne Lovegood.

I have to admit, I have maybe 1 dot in nWoD Lore, and haven't read anythin about Hunters since like '99. That said, I looked up the Wiki, cobbled together my understanding of these new rules, and generated what I hope is an acceptable Handler.

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Old 10-02-2012, 06:21 PM   Top  -  End  -  #32
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Hmmm. You say we can play as something unusual, as long as it's not homebrew? Could I put together a monster of some sort--probably a Slasher--using Dread Powers?

Also, GFawkes, I think you've mathed your Merits incorrectly; merits are costed at 2 x new dots, not 2 x dots. Source.

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If you have XP at character creation (e.g. from lowering your Morality-equivalent or from bonus starting XP) you still have to buy each dot individually, and you still pay for each dot with your initial character creation points--it's just that when spending your initial creation points, the dot costs don't scale up. A 2-dot Merit costs 2 of your starting 7 Merit dots, or 6 XP if you have any starting XP.

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Old 10-02-2012, 06:38 PM   Top  -  End  -  #33
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Well, here we are: Agent Jeanne Lovegood.

I have to admit, I have maybe 1 dot in nWoD Lore, and haven't read anythin about Hunters since like '99. That said, I looked up the Wiki, cobbled together my understanding of these new rules, and generated what I hope is an acceptable Handler.

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alright looks good and you've still got 6 exp to burn if your interested. also this is the perfect handler nice job with the concept :)

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Hmmm. You say we can play as something unusual, as long as it's not homebrew? Could I put together a monster of some sort--probably a Slasher--using Dread Powers?

Also, GFawkes, I think you've mathed your Merits incorrectly; merits are costed at 2 x new dots, not 2 x dots. Source.
If you don't have the slasher book i would advise getting it, this goes for all the players it will just work easier, also slashers have there own powers and stuff.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:56 PM   Top  -  End  -  #34
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Cool, thanks <3

So, aside from "my agency will skullf*** you if you kill me" how am I to control the psychotic beasties that I cavort with? I assume I can have a clip of silver ammo for the werewolves, but other than that...?

Can I buy Willpower with Exp, or must I increase an Attribute in order to do so? 5 Wp seems on the low side for my tastes, and I'd like 7-8.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:10 PM   Top  -  End  -  #35
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If you don't have the slasher book i would advise getting it, this goes for all the players it will just work easier, also slashers have there own powers and stuff.
I have Slasher; Slashers don't have powers, exactly (unless I'm remembering very wrong), but the Hunter book mentions that some Slashers have Dread Powers.

The creature I'm interested in playing is a possessing spirit called Der Ohrwurm; it manifests as, essentially, a sentient snatch of music to drive its victims into becoming killers, eventually possessing them completely. (This was a concept I came up with for a different game that fell apart before we even had character sheets finished.)

The closest I've been able to come to modeling that is using a variant on the Bloodjackers, listed in Night Stalkers. They have the closest thing to a Possession Dread Power that exists, and they're the only disembodied entities short of Ghosts/Spirits I've seen. I haven't looked in Inferno, though; possibly the possession rules presented there would be a better fit.

The other character I was considering submitting was a Promethean of some description, just because nobody else has asked to play one yet. I haven't looked through Promethean, though, so I don't really know what I'd do with one.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:22 PM   Top  -  End  -  #36
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Cool, thanks <3

So, aside from "my agency will skullf*** you if you kill me" how am I to control the psychotic beasties that I cavort with? I assume I can have a clip of silver ammo for the werewolves, but other than that...?

Can I buy Willpower with Exp, or must I increase an Attribute in order to do so? 5 Wp seems on the low side for my tastes, and I'd like 7-8.
each of your agents will be equipped with a personalized device designed to track and neutralize your agents. you will know where they are at all times and be able to neutralize them with the push of a button. for instance the "changeling" on your team will be outfitted with an ankle bracket made partly out of cold iron rendering his abilities useless on it, it's also capable of putting enough electricity in him to either cause mild discomfort or cook a ham. the list goes on and extensive R&D is being put into each potential for the program by the time the game starts you'll have devices for each of them.
also you do need to buy the abilities if you want to increase your will power pool.

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Old 10-02-2012, 07:32 PM   Top  -  End  -  #37
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I have Slasher; Slashers don't have powers, exactly (unless I'm remembering very wrong), but the Hunter book mentions that some Slashers have Dread Powers.

The creature I'm interested in playing is a possessing spirit called Der Ohrwurm; it manifests as, essentially, a sentient snatch of music to drive its victims into becoming killers, eventually possessing them completely. (This was a concept I came up with for a different game that fell apart before we even had character sheets finished.)

The closest I've been able to come to modeling that is using a variant on the Bloodjackers, listed in Night Stalkers. They have the closest thing to a Possession Dread Power that exists, and they're the only disembodied entities short of Ghosts/Spirits I've seen. I haven't looked in Inferno, though; possibly the possession rules presented there would be a better fit.

The other character I was considering submitting was a Promethean of some description, just because nobody else has asked to play one yet. I haven't looked through Promethean, though, so I don't really know what I'd do with one.
each type of slasher has a talent which they can use at any time for no cost that being said there is a type of creature in the "Immortals" splat book which basically is a soul that can jump from body to body there pretty terrifying and sound perfect for the job.
there's also the possessed in"Inferno" which have a wide range of powers
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Also, GFawkes, I think you've mathed your Merits incorrectly; merits are costed at 2 x new dots, not 2 x dots. Source.
*checks math* Well I'll be... I'll fix that. Just change where I spent experience, and I can (mostly) be exactly the same. Here's a summary of the changes:

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Old 10-02-2012, 10:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #39
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Wait are you sure werewolf modifications can't be permitted? They're practically fixes of the gifts, how could you deny them?
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I think he said "werewolves have a lot of other cool things they can do, so they don't need awesome Gifts"
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:44 PM   Top  -  End  -  #41
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I think he said "werewolves have a lot of other cool things they can do, so they don't need awesome Gifts"
No they can't. A werewolf's shifting cycle's not as strong as they're advertised. Besides they're supposed to be hunters not warriors.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:51 PM   Top  -  End  -  #42
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Well, if you think werewolves are too weak you could... play something else? I dunno, if he doesn't like the houserules then he doesn't like the house rules <3
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:21 AM   Top  -  End  -  #43
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each type of slasher has a talent which they can use at any time for no cost that being said there is a type of creature in the "Immortals" splat book which basically is a soul that can jump from body to body there pretty terrifying and sound perfect for the job.
there's also the possessed in"Inferno" which have a wide range of powers
Actually, Immortals' Body Thieves are pretty perfect.

Neither of the two default transference methods (psychic and mystical-ritual) are quite right, though; the book provides a third category, Oddities, which are largely up to ST discretion. Most transference rolls are handled by [attribute + skill] vs Resolve + Power stat (i.e. Gnosis, Wyrd, etc), contested to either victim's Willpower or Morality; could I use Manipulation + Expression to victim's Morality?
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:50 AM   Top  -  End  -  #44
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I'm currently statting up my vampire in the hope that there'll be another handler around so I'll be allowed to play him

I need to know however; there any limit to social merits as a captive of SSS?
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Actually, Immortals' Body Thieves are pretty perfect.

Neither of the two default transference methods (psychic and mystical-ritual) are quite right, though; the book provides a third category, Oddities, which are largely up to ST discretion. Most transference rolls are handled by [attribute + skill] vs Resolve + Power stat (i.e. Gnosis, Wyrd, etc), contested to either victim's Willpower or Morality; could I use Manipulation + Expression to victim's Morality?
sounds good but I'm going to say that cool but anyone with a morality of 7 or higher gets a plus 1 to resits and anyone with a morality of 5 or lower gets minus 1 also your tracking device will probably involve some kind of voice modulator that keeps you from singing your song with out the go ahead of your handler or at least makes it allot more difficult.
sounds good though can't wait to see it stated.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:53 AM   Top  -  End  -  #46
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I'm currently statting up my vampire in the hope that there'll be another handler around so I'll be allowed to play him

I need to know however; there any limit to social merits as a captive of SSS?
just keep in mind you've been in prison for awhile not dead (well more dead) so your friends will still be your friends and your mentor will still be your mentor and you can still have money waiting for you if you ever get out, you just don't have access to it thats all

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Do you still have room?

'cause I'd be very interested as either a vampire or another Purified.
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Well done you creepy mother ****er ;) nice job with the character special mention to the back story.
quick question your merits can be used on people your not possessing right I'll check my self but I'm not near my books right now.
I'm also increasing the morality factor to -2 and +2
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Do you still have room?

'cause I'd be very interested as either a vampire or another Purified.
Sorry mate assuming that the two people who posted interest I.e. the vampire and the werewolf post their characters we will be full up on monsters we do need another VASCU agent though and feel free to use minor templates
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Well done you creepy mother ****er ;) nice job with the character special mention to the back story.
quick question your merits can be used on people your not possessing right I'll check my self but I'm not near my books right now.
I'm also increasing the morality factor to -2 and +2
Thank you!

Yes, the Body Thief merits can be used on anyone to whom I have line of sight or a sympathetic connection; I get a penalty using Willpower Drain without eye contact.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:20 AM   Top  -  End  -  #52
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Background. I was inspired by the other two listed in report format, I hope that is okay with you guys
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:10 AM   Top  -  End  -  #53
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Nice job mate now keep in mind you don't have accsess to
Those funds because your in the custody of VASCU but there still there if you get out.
Ok so we have room for room for one more monster and we need one more handler.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:50 PM   Top  -  End  -  #54
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Ok we still need two more players and one of them needs to be a handler and the other can be anything but I did note a distinct lack of muscle in the team.
Also if anyone knows anyone that would be interested in co-STing let them know because 8 PCs vs. a serial killer may be a little much ethire that or I have to get all survival horror up in here ;p.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:12 PM   Top  -  End  -  #55
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My character is rather good at fighting. He could easily be the front-line of our little pow-wow of crazies.
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Muscle eh? I'll have a think. I'm slightly hesitant to join a game with so much material that I'm unfamiliar with, but this could be fun.
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Muscle eh? I'll have a think. I'm slightly hesitant to join a game with so much material that I'm unfamiliar with, but this could be fun.
Like I said we have room for another monster and a we need another handler
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:41 PM   Top  -  End  -  #59
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There aren't any monsters that I particularly want to play, though slashers look fun. I might play another handler: what kind of access to special Hunter stuff do we have? I'm guessing we can't have any of the conspiracy equipment or special merits.
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There aren't any monsters that I particularly want to play, though slashers look fun. I might play another handler: what kind of access to special Hunter stuff do we have? I'm guessing we can't have any of the conspiracy equipment or special merits.
I'm pretty certain at least one of our extant handlers has Teleinformatics; they are VASCU agents, after all.
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