Lords of Creation: Boundless Wonder, Endless Strife OOC [Part IV]

[Yeshon]

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Hello everyone! This is the OOC Thread for Lords of Creation: Boundless Wonder, Endless Strife.

This is not the recruitment thread! So I don't want any applications here.


Let's get this proverbial party started!

Introduction

Lords of Creation (LoC for short) is a message board game. We are on a message board, and it is a game. That much should be obvious. As a player, you control a god - designed and role-played through your writing - in an epic collaborative storytelling experience. Together with the other players and their gods, you will shape a setting - create mortals, land, nations, concepts... whatever strikes your fancy. It should be stressed that the goal of this game - much like D&D, upon which it is loosely based - is not to 'win'. The goal is to weave an epic tale of gods and heroes and the forging of a world.

What separates LoC from a free-form RPG is that it has rules. The 'core mechanic' of the game - the Action Point, or AP - functions much like its namesake; the Action of many tabletop games. By spending AP, your god can shape the world to their whims... or bring ruin to the works of an enemy god.

Lords of Creation Rules

The Core Mechanic- Action Points

Action Points are gained at each rollover, in a quantity based on your deity’s Divine Rank. A god may store AP up to what it says in the chart below. AP that would be gained over this threshold is lost irrevocably. These action points may be spent on Divine Actions, which are the primary means by which you can influence the setting.

Rollover occurs at 2:00 PM EST (7:00 PM GMT) on Saturday of each week.

Starting AP

Players begin the game with 15 AP, as a Fledgling deity. Players begin accumulating AP normally at their first rollover.

Divine Rank Chart

Rank Name	Weekly AP	Maximum Infusions	Required Domains/Portfolios	Max AP
Fledgling Deity	4	3	2	15
Lesser Deity	5	4	4	20
Intermediate Deity	6	5	6	25
Greater Deity	7	6	8	30
Elder Deity	8	7	11	35

Explanation:

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Rank Name: Self-explanatory, really.
Weekly AP: This is the amount of AP the god accumulates each week at rollover.
Maximum Infusions: This is the number of creations your god can have simultaneously infused with their divine essence through the Infuse Divinity action.
Required Domains/Portfolios: This is the number of Domain/Portfolio pairs a god needs to achieve this rank. Upon reaching this number, a god immediately advances to this rank. No action is necessary beyond the gaining of the domains themselves.
Max AP: This is the maximum AP that a god can store; any gained over this limit is irrevocably lost.

Deific Apathy

Gods that slumber for millennia cease to exist – they become mere dreams and lore, stories that may have been. In game play terms that means that a God that is inactive for 3 weeks ceases to exist – yet everything that deity created remains to continue the story. Remaining gods may target the remaining creations without the absent player’s permission


Ap Actions:

The way certain actions work during this game have been changed and expanded, even if you are familiar with the LoC system - please read the new rules.

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Create Life AP 1: Creates a new form of creature or race. This action does not organize the creatures it creates with any sort of society or government – use Form Organization for that. This action can also be used to create constructs, undead, spirits, or any other form of being – it need not strictly be life. Races created by this action cannot be completely eliminated or otherwise permanently removed from the game without the permission of the player who created them. But whole societies can be destroyed through random conflict resolution with another society, group, or hero. Races can however be harmed or aided by Bless or Curse actions.

Create Fabeled Life AP 4: This is reserved for the creation of Dragons, Demons, and Angels, Life that is itself legendary - simply by being alive. Otherwise it’s the equivalent of Create Life

Bless/ Curse AP 1: Bless brings a beneficial effect to a targeted group. Curse brings a harmful effect to a targeted group. This effect can be absolutely anything imaginable, from something as simple as giving a land good harvests year after year to something as incredible as raising every soldier who died in a decades-long war. A curse can create a Decades long war or a deadly epidemic.

To cancel another’s player Bless/Curse you must use an equal amount of Bless/Curse actions plus one. So to cancel 1 bless, you must use 2 curses, and the original player to re-bless the target must spend 3 bless actions… this is to prevent back and forth bless/curse ‘wars.’

Create Lesser Concept AP 1: Concepts introduced by this action may be affected by blesses, curses, or even the introduction of other concepts. This action should not be mistaken for a prerequisite of social advancement – a society needs no Create Concept to discover such things as slate roofing, silverware, a style of government, or other basics or trivialities. Nor do they need to be used to expand upon existing ideas unless the expansion differs significantly in power or concept. Concepts introduced by this action may reach as small or wide an audience as the creator desires, ranging from a single individual to everyone in the world. A group cannot have a concept forcibly introduced if the player controlling it does not want it (But another player can create a concept and then forcibly introduce it by using a curse action) and other player’s creations cannot ‘steal’ a created concept for themselves without the permission of the player who created it unless they also spend the AP to create the concept for their followers.

Create Fabled Concept AP 4: This action is used to create supernatural or extraordinary concepts – while Lesser concepts may include extremely limited forms of magic and technology, Fabled Concept is used for the creation of Miraculous concepts such as; the industrial revolution and necromancy.

Alter Land AP 1: Alter Land warps an existing land into a different form of terrain. Mundane flora and fauna are assumed to die off and be replaced by such more suitable to the new climate, but beings created by Create Life are assumed to adapt reasonably well to their new conditions. Alter Land can be countered by another alter land.

To cancel another’s player Alter Land you must use an equal amount of Alter Land actions plus one. So to cancel 1 Alter Land, you must use 2 Alter Land, and the original player to re- Alter Land the target must spend 3 Alter Land actions… this is to prevent back and forth Alter Land ‘wars.’

Raise Hero AP 4 : Raises a mortal creature to heroic status. A Hero cannot be slain or otherwise removed from the game without being destroyed through random conflict resolution with another society or another Hero or with the permission of the controlling player. A hero could instead be given a tiny shard of divinity. This can raise an already mighty entity to something nearly a demigod in its own right. Some gods go so far as to turn those infused into little more than puppets dancing on divine strings – earthly avatars for their master to walk upon a world barred to them. There is no objective difference between a Hero or an Exarch/Avatar, but players are encouraged to make an in-story distinction.

Form Organization/Society AP 2: This action allows one to arrange their creations into groups more coherent than the simple hunter-gatherer tribes or roving monsters they default to – this action needs to be used to create a society, otherwise a race would be scattered and disorganized.This can also be used to define notable sub-organizations into distinct entities. An organization/society can destroy another organization/society through random conflict resolution.

You can, of course use this action to create sub groups within an existing group.

Craft Artifact/Relics AP 4: Artifacts are individual items of power. Some are wielded by individual mortals, like a legendary blade of kings, while others fill more inventive roles. Artifacts do not have the power to actually function on the same scale as divinities – but they can have almost any abilities imaginable in the mortal realm. Artifacts are mighty mortal instruments, but Relics are the tools of the gods. There is almost no limit to the powers a Relic may hold. As a Rule artifacts are placed in mortal hands, but Relics are the personal tools of the gods.

You may be extremely creative with your Artifacts and Relics but you may use them to give a particular person or a god a combat bonus. The total bonuses from different Artifact/Relics held by a single mortal or deity can’t exceed +2.

Examples

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Ex. 1: A deity can create a Holy Relic for himself that gives him a +2 modifier in Random conflict resolution
Ex. 2: A deity can create a Holy Artifact for his mortal followers that gives an individual person a +2 modifier in Random conflict resolution

Please note however you MUST label the created object an Artifact or a Relic. Relics are too powerful for any mortal no matter how strong to use, and Artifacts are too weak to handle the will of the Divine.

It takes the same amount of AP to break an artifact/relic as it takes to create (4 AP), but you can't do something to another gods possessions without either rolling or agreeing about it earlier.

Modifying an artifact/relic's purpose only costs 2 AP. You can't increase it's modifier bonus, you only change it's function.

Instead of a modifier bonus an artifact can act as a localized permanent Curse/Bless effect

If you have any questions about a creative artifact you're thinking of, run it by the mods or the OoC first.

Create Land AP 2: Raises new land to the world. Created land has whatever climate or biosphere the creator wishes, and contains any mundane flora and fauna that would fit that biome. This action can also be used to render inhabitable a section of otherwise-barren seafloor, carve out tunnels into bedrock, etc – it need not strictly be land. However, it cannot be used to change another player's land into a different sort of terrain – use the Alter Terrain action for that

Weave Plane AP 4: Draws forth a new plane of existence from the fabric of the world – important, as gods cannot set foot upon the Material itself, their own divine sparks barring them entry through forces even the greatest scholars cannot comprehend. A plane is a finite entity, almost never larger than the world itself and often smaller by a wide margin. Not only do such realms reflect their masters, they actually respond to their active will in a fashion. This effect allow them to reshape their plane’s terrain essentially at will, however, any outside application of AP will override and suspend this effect until countered. Planes can be targeted by divine actions in a manner identical to the Material – both by their creator and others. Players are advised that the Create Plane actions is not designed to give them an impregnable fortress of power, but to create a realm of otherworldly wonder and a home of divinity.

Gather Pantheon AP 2: To form a pantheon, one deity must make the Gather Pantheon action. This god has admin rights to the pantheon, Admin actions means the creator of the pantheon can expel any member of the pantheon at will. Two other gods must join this pantheon framework for the pantheon to gain any benefits. Each member of the Pantheon gains 1 AP per three members – which they can use however they like but doesn’t count towards Gain domain actions. . If the pantheon drops below three members, this AP ceases to function. This AP is renewed every Thursday - it does not roll over.

Join Pantheon AP 1: Attune yourself to an existing Pantheon. Doing so instantly severs your ties to any pantheon you were previously attuned to.

Gain Domain AP 3: The Gain Domain action allows a god to gain an additional domain and an accompanying portfolio element. The god must first have spent 7AP worth of AP on things related to the domain they wish to gain. The Gain Domain action may never be used to qualify for a domain, but any other action can be. Only AP gained from rollover or your starting AP counts - Pantheon AP never aids in qualifying for a domain.

Divine Infusion AP 2: A deity may greatly empower one of their creations by placing a fragment of their own essence into it. A god may only infuse a set number of creations at once, based on their divine rank. Each use of this ability counts against the limit, no matter the form you choose. A god may release an infusion at any time, freeing up a slot in their infusion pool (this does not destroy the infused entity, merely reverts it to its uninfused status). Divine Infusion grants a race, organization, artifact, hero a ‘combat bonus’ when it comes to random conflict resolution.

Randomized Conflict Resolution

The rules for Randomized Conflict Resolution have been greatly expanded this game, so even if you are familiar with LoC please read the new rule.

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Players are encouraged to negotiate out any conflicts that arise. Should this fail, the players may either seek mod arbitrating and/or may roll randomly to determine the outcome. Such random resolutions of divine conflict use a d10 roll. If the conflict is a direct battle between deities, each god may also add their divine caste to the roll, with a fledgling adding 1, a lesser 2, etc.

The winner of the roll is considered to have won whatever conflict was at stake in the manner they wish to have won it. The results of a divine combat are to be respected and roleplayed accordingly. DO NOT ignore the winner's decision on how it goes. Your god may not be permanently out, but a divine combat is more than just the moves taken. It represents two divine wills and essences directly conflicting and losing one is no light matter. (For example the winner may imprison the loser, temporarily, or even steal all of his relics)

A player who loses a divine combat may not initiate combat with the other god until after the next rollover.

The same type of battle happens on the mortal realm. Again Players are encouraged to negotiate out any conflicts that arise. But…

Belonging in an organization grants a +1 Bonus.
Being part of a Greater race grants a +2 Bonus.
Being a Hero Grants a +2 Bonus.
Each Infusion Grants a + 2 bonus.

Races can’t fight against other races, they must fight against some society/organization or individual in general. In order to attempt to commit genocide use a create greater concept and engage in deific battle, with the opposing god given a modifier equal to the greatest hero under his or her control (if not hero then organization if not organization then race).

Examples

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E.x. 1: Humans (Not infused) fight against the Fey (infused). The Fey would have a +2 modifier bonus.
E.x. 2: Human (Not Infused) Empire (+1 Bonus, Not infused) Templar (+3 Bonus, Infused) against a wild Fey Hero of legend (+6 (Infused race + infused Hero). The Human Templars of the Empire would have a -2 disadvantage.
E.x. 3:Human (Not Infused) Empire (+1 Bonus, Not infused) Templar (+3 Bonus, Infused) Paladin (+2 hero, not infused) against a wild Fey Hero of legend (+6 (Infused race + infused Hero). Equal! The Head of the organization mandated by their god to defend the humans against the wild creature from legend. Makes sense – the hero is not himself a divine hero, but he can beat demi-god opponent due to the weight of the hopes of his entire peoples.
E.x. 4: The Devil (an elder deity), wants to kill all the humans (reference to the above example). The god of the humans (Fledgling Deity). He would need to spend 4 AP first and then engage in battle with the Human god. The devil has a +5 Modifier, the human god will have +1 from being a Fledging diety and a + 6 from the account of the paladin’s accrued bonuses so it would be +5 vs +7. Genocide is extremely hard to accomplish

Additional Mod Rules:

1) A being can only belong to one Infused Orginization: The whole purpose of infusion of orginization is divine mandate - you can't have more that one god given purpose. If a being belongs to an infused organization and another uninfused organization then next time there is RCR, that beings player must chose which organization that being receives its bonuses from, and must exclude the other. Yes this does create an interesting way to weaken a being that belongs an infused organization and another uninfused organization: before 2nd infusion he has +3 from the infused organization and +1 from the uninfused organization, after the 2nd infusion the player must pick only one divine mandate so the being would only receive a +3 from the infused organization

2) A being can belong to a max of 3 organizations (this number is arbitrary).

3) There is only an additional combat bonus if you infuse an artifacts/relics which grants a combat bonus. So you can infuse an artifact/relic which doesn't grant a bonus, but you wont get a bonus from doing so. Note: be creative with your artifacts or relics, they don't have to be simply weapons.

Deity Application

Lords of Creation is always recruiting, and anybody can join. All deities must be approved by the game’s MODs to ensure that they will not overlap an existing god and will contribute meaningfully to the game. Outside the three Mods, the first 6 players to join will be born from the creator and will have no parents. Every player after that MUST be born from another god. Your god will need to arise from another god somehow and not just “poof” into existence. We will work with you to find a suitable “parent” god - if you have one in mind already; by all means let us know.

Two MODs must approve the application for it that god to enter the game.

List of MODs

AvocadoAvenger
HalfTangible
Yeshon

If you do not use the format presented below, the MODs will ask you to put it in this format before approving it.

Warning: Try to stay away from destiny and time themed domains, I tried that and other players informed me it was too confusing. So while I do not doubt that you personally can handle it, please for the sake of others/ Also try to stay away from multiple personalities. If you would like to attempt to have a time/fate type god or a god with multiple personalities, please IM one of the mods first.

Name, Optional Epithet
Played By: Player Name
Domains and Portfolios: Domain (Portfolio), Domain (Portfolio)
Alignment: Lawful good to Chaotic Evil
Description: A brief description of your god.

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Name: Something we can take seriously, please.
Played By: Your name.
Domains and Portfolios: You begin play with two domains, each with an associated portfolio. Two gods may not have the same domain and portfolios as another.
Alignment: Lawful good to Chaotic Evil (As long as you justify your goals and personality to the initial alignment it can be a weird and as blue and orange as you want)
Description: This is by far the most important aspect of an application. Keep it short enough to be easy to read, but be sure to include enough detail to give us an idea who your god it. Two paragraphs or so is sufficient. Please note that your god will need to arise from another god somehow and not just “poof” into existence. We will work with you to find a suitable “parent” god - if you have one in mind already, by all means let us know.

Etiquette

The objective of Lords of Creation is to allow the players to create a world for a playable campaign, while weaving an interesting and original story. It is important to understand that this is not a 'God Campaign' but a form of collaborative storytelling and world-building. If your objective is to create a god simply to show off how great you are at other players’ expense, then this is not the game for you.

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1. Gods are not omnipotent.
While you are playing a deity, you should not forget that you are still one of many. There are limits on what a god is capable of.

2. Gods are not omniscient.
A deity is limited to what information they can gather through observation or intelligence, just as any powerful being. They are generally assumed to be able to be able find and observe anything on the Material that they wish, but they can still be surprised or caught unawares by things they aren’t paying attention to. A special note here is that things related to a god's domain allow them a vague and general sense of that element but not enough to gather specific details.

3. Godmodding is to be avoided
For those of you unfamiliar with the concept, godmodding is, in short, assuming control of another player's characters or creations. In a game of this scale, sometimes it can be impossible to entirely avoid godmodding, but it should be kept to a minimum whenever possible. Remember, planning ahead with other players is the best way to avoid godmodding!

4. You are not ‘invulnerable’.
Although many actions in LoC are unable to be completely destroyed by another, simply smugly saying “they get better” is not a means of making you invulnerable. All it does is alienate you from your fellow players and make them inclined to ignore you.

5. Consider your fellow players.
You are not the only person trying to establish characters and write a story – everyone has their own plots and plans. Interaction between players is actively encouraged, but simply harassing them is not. Just as ignoring a player’s attacks on your own creations is frowned upon, repeatedly assaulting a player’s creations with no real purpose other than to keep them from playing is griefing, and will not be tolerated.

6. Time is flexible
Time to a god's eyes is not the same as that of a mortal's eyes. In essence, there is no “standardized” timeline. Rollovers do not necessarily represent any specific span of time. There have been some instances where mere hours pass IC in one RL week and others where centuries pass in a single post. Stay flexible.

7. Communication, communication, communication!
You cannot be too open. The more you plan with other players, the smoother the game gets. Surprising people can be fun, but people can’t work with you if they don’t know what you’re up to. Using the OOC thread or other communication helps a lot.

8. Respect the MODs
The MODs of this LoC are here to help the players, not bully them. We oversee all the details it takes to keep this game running from maintaining the roster and world map to rules arbitration and catching cheaters. If we ask for your cooperation as MODs, please give it to us.

9. Keep the OOC clean
If you have an issue with something or someone, do not go to the OOC to cry/whine or make a big issue out of it. That's the whole reason the MODs were picked. To keep conflicts out of the OOC. They make the atmosphere oppressive, they make things less fun, and generally unpleasant and maybe even make the arguments larger than they need be. So if you do have a complaint, either PM the offending party or ask a MOD to mediate on the issue. If you have a problem with a MOD, or have a reason to distrust a MOD, simply send the message to another MOD.

10. Don’t argue over power levels, instead refer to Random Conflict Resolution and roll a die!

Newbie Tips

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Here are a couple tips that can help you get established in the game world and set you on the right track.
1. Simply by merit of your god’s origin, you should have a connection to at least one other deity in your progenitor. Not only is having an ally useful in game terms, but writing tends to be much easier with a partner (or enemy) or two.
2. Early on, be careful to set yourself up with something to do between rollovers. It is boring to end up blowing all your starting ap on something and then not being able to do stuff for a week. Try to create something permanent and lasting you can rp with in the mortal realm to combat this problem.
3. Don’t create to many Hero’s or mortal characters – it’s hard to keep track of them all and rp them as individuals.

The First World of the Material Plane

The game starts with the creator, creating the original 9 gods, and a blank world. This world is a planet similar to Earth - except there is nothing on it. Except for it's core, it is completely solid. It is up to the gods to populate it, shape it, and sustain in.

Only Fledgling god may actually stand upon this world. As soon as a deity ascends to lesser god, they are barred from touching the first world, through incomprehensible forces.

The gods though are not barred from any other worlds in the prime material plane that might be created. . . . .

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The IC thread is up!

IC I
IC II
Current IC

Please don't post in the IC thread unless your god has been approved and a progenitor for it chosen. Of course the first 9 gods may and should start posting immediately .



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Current Dieties

Inactive gods may return to play at any time if their player makes an IC post and spends AP. However, They are out of the game for good if they don't post for a consecutive 3 weeks. Deceased Deities exist in the past of the Game's lore, but are no longer influencing the world - they vanish completely, but what they wrought still remains.

If you notice anything missing, go ahead and PM me. I'd appreciate it, since I sometimes miss things. And I can always forget about someone.

Deities

Deity Name	Player Name	Divine Rank	Domains (Portfolios)	Infusions	Alignment	Progenitor
Belsheroth, He Who Walks with the Dead, the Starlit Reaper, Star God, Lord of the Night	Elemental	Elder Deity	Death (Repose), Darkness (Night), Sky (Stars), Protection (healing), Music (Song), Death (Inevitability), Sky (Moon), Protection (Guidance), Sleep (Dreams), Wisdom (Hindsight), Time (Entropy)	3/7	NG	The Creator
Reisen, the fool	Xondoure	ElderDeity	Change (Transmutation,) Illusion (Trickery), Travel (Lost), Mind (Cunning), Trickery (Theft), Time (Transience) Truth (Lies), Renewal (Existence), Madness (Hope), Dreams (Potential), Fate (Folly)	0/7	CN	The Creator
Vargull, Wardog, Lupos Belli	Lord_Asmodeus	Fledgling Deity	War (Lycanthropes), Bestial (Wolves)	2/3	NE	Halasht, Heaven-reacher, The Broken Chains
Ombra, the Divine Vigilante and Prince of Shadows	HalfTangible	Intermediate Deity	Freedom (Vigilantism), Darkness(Misdirection), Darkness(Shadow), Mind (Psionics), Mind (Information), Artifice (Conjuration), Artifice (Crystal)	3/5	CN	Morgash, High Warlock of the Gods
Aqaeris, Flowing Sheen	DrowLord	Elder Deity	Waters (ocean), Waters (river), Loyalty (Heroism), Art (Visual), Love (Melancholy), Strength (Resolve), Remembrance (Dead), Heroism (Gentle), Power (Sea), Belief (Afterlife), Power (Change)	0/7	CG	Kiloasa, The Hungering, The Green Maker, The Arch-Druid
Gwyn the First Knight	Yeshon	Greater Deity	Courage (Valor), Glory (Honor), Protection (Chivalry), Inquisition (Truth), Wrath (Righteousness), Law (Justice), Nobility (Majesty), Magic (Wizardry), Knowledge (Wisdom)	4/6	LG	Isanloff, Imperator of Inanition
Kipt	AvocadoAvenger	Intermediate Deity	Beauty(Romance), Simplicity(Harmony), Family (Kinship), and Beauty (Music), Nature (Balance), Fun (Festivities)	1/5	CG	Kiloasa, The Hungering, The Green Maker, The Arch-Druid
Tresingiis, Lord of the desert	Mattsdelf	Greater Deity	Earth (sand), Fire (heat and warmth), Air (Wind), Sky (Sun), Conflict (Divine), Energy (Elementals), Society (Tribal), Air (Flying)	4/6	LN	Kiloasa, The Hungering, The Green Maker, The Arch-Druid .
Yohalles, The Wanderer	hipho	Intermediate Deity	Nature(Migration), Travel(Wandering), Nature (Herd Animals), Travel (Teleportation), Emotion (Anger), Virtue (Self-Giving)	2/5	NG	Reisen, the fool
Savorla, The King Breaker	C'Nor	Lesser Deity	Protection (Mortals), Seduction (Entanglement), War (Weaponcrafting), Beauty (Death), Change (Healing)	0/4	N	Gwyn, The First Knight
Dralcor the wind dragon of dread, the cloud splliter, Guardian of the serpent's range	Markadelf	Fledgling Deity	Dragon (Ancestry), Air (Flying), Dragons (Drakes)	0/3	NE	Reisen, The Fool (technically)
Wigbach the Divine Atheist	Mystic 1110	Fledgling Deity	Suffering (Starvation), Nobility (Abuse)	0/3	CE	Reisen, The Fool
Isyldar, Vanguard of Terror, The Manipulator	Mynxae	Fledgling Deity	Pain (Affliction), Chaos (Strife), Control (Manipulation)	0/3	CE	Savorla, The King Breaker
Morgash, the Returned, the Original Magister	Darklord2831	Fledgling Deity	Undeath (Rebirth), Magic (Nethermancy)	0/3	NE	Belsheroth, The Starlit Reaper
Setebos, The Forgotten Hero	A.P.Carry	Fledgling Deity	Revenge (Retribution), Malice (Hatred)	0/3	LE	Morgash, the Returned, the Original Magister
Fyurl, Harbinger of Truest Order	Novaix	Lesser Deity	Balance (Chaos and Order), Evil (Absolute), Magic (Jiang Shi), Wisdom (Forethought)	0/4	LE	Isyldar, Vanguard of Terror
Graiah, the Greenvine	Planswalker	Fledgling Deity	Plant (Greenvine), Renewal (Regrowth)	0/3	CN	Kipt
Nettal Urwyld, The Ascended Mortal	Elricaltovilla	Fledgling Deity	Life(Mortals), Power(Ambition)	0/3	TN	Wigbach, The Divine Atheist

Pantheons

Name of each pantheon is in bold, and the creator of the pantheon is italicized.

The Sacrosanct Directors

With the Death of Isanloff The Sacrosanct Directors are no more.

The Manyfold Guardians

With the Death of Kiloasa the Manyfold Guardians are no more

The Empowered Council

Name	Rank	Player	Progenitor
Kipt	Intermediate Deity	AvocadoAvenger	Kiolasa, The Hungering, The Green Maker, The Arch-Druid
Tresingiis, Lord of the Desert	Lesser Deity	Mattsdelf	Kiolasa, The Hungering, The Green Maker, The Arch-Druid
Aqaerius, The Flowing Sheen	Elder Deity	Drowlord	Kiolasa, The Hungering, The Green Maker, The Arch-Druid
Yohalles, The Wanderer	Intermediate Deity	Hipho	Reisen, The Fool

The Circle of Darkness

Name	Rank	Player	Progenitor
Morgash, The Returned, The Original Magister	Fledgling Deity	Darklord2831	Belsheroth, The Starlit Reaper
Setebos, The Forgotten Hero	Flegling Deity	A.P.Carry	Morgash, The Returned, The Original Magister
Isyldar, The Vanguard of Terror	Fladgling Deity	Mynxae	Savorla, The King Breaker
Dralcor, The Wind Dragon of Dread, The Cloud Splitter, The Guardian of the Serpents Range	Fledgling Deity	Markadelf	Reisen, The Fool
Vargull, The Wardog, Lupus Belli	Fledgling Deity	Lord_Asmodeous	Halasht, Heaven-reacher, The Broken Chains, Chief Clanmaster
Fyrul, Harbinger of Truest Order	Fledgling Deity	Novaix	Isyldar, The Vanguard of Terror
Savorla, The King Breaker	Fledgling Deity	C'Nor	Gwyn, The First Knight

Dead Gods

It's easier to have a table of dead deities

Deity Name	Player Name	Divine Rank	Domains (Portfolios)	Infusions	Alignment	Progenitor
Ceniza, the Burning Mother	AsDeR	Fledgling Deity	Life (Rebirth), Fire (Magma and Ashes)	0/3]	CG	The Creator
Nyctus, The Space Between Stars	Voshkod	Fledgling Deity	Night (Mysteries), Sleep (Dreams), Secrets(Personal)	0/3	N	The Creator
Daazo, He Who Seeks, The Avaricious One	Tzer	Fledgling Deity	Evil (Ambition), Magic (Pacts), Chaos (Daemons)	1/3	NE	Isanloff, Imperator of Inanition
Orlur, The Rot Within	Ninja_in_Shadow	Fledgling Deity	Illusion (Beauty), Change (Corruption), Plenty (Apathy)	0/3	NE	The Creator
Cam, Lord of Chaos and Death.	The_Amazing_Cam	Fledgling Deity	Chaos (destruction) Evil (murder)	0/3	CE	Morgash, High Warlock of the Gods
Ekcol-Mir	Lonewolfe208	Fledgling Deity	evolution (discovery), War (Guile)	0/3	CG	Reisen, the fool
Morgash, High Warlock of the Gods	Darklord2831	Fledgling Deity	Darkness (Shadow), Magic (Dark Magic), Oracle (Foresight)	0/3	N	Isanloff, Imperator of Inanition
Aor, the Vernal Queen.	bryn0528.	Fledgling Deity	Beauty (Nature), Life (Agriculture).	0/3	NG	Kiloasa, The Hungering, The Green Maker, The Arch-Druid .
Versteckt, the Veiwer, the Artisan	Jojolagger	Fledgling Deity	Competition (Wit//Intellegence), Artifice (Art)	0/3	N	Merolle, The Verdigris Legion, Many Others
Carcino, the Growth Eternal	Agent Indy	Lesser Deity	Life(Growth), Mind(Instability), ? , ?	0/4	N (sometimes CE)	The Creator
Isanloff, Imperator of Inanition	Mystic1110	intermediate Deity	Starvation (Famine), Nobility (Noblesse oblige), Authority (Absoluteness), Atonement (Forgiveness), Justice (karma), Duty (Responsibility)	2/5	LG	The Creator
Alyveran, Lord of Hell..	Mynxae	Fledgling Deity	Justice (Imprisonment), Suffering (Punishment)	0/3	LN	Belsheroth, He Who Walks with the Dead, the Starlit Reaper
Kiloasa, The Hungering, The Green Maker, The Arch-Druid	Elricaltovilla	Greater Deity	Nature(Predator and Prey), Death (Hunger), Magic (Druidism), Nature(Monsters), Nature(Disasters), Nature(Land), Destruction (Wrath), Freedom (Opportunity)	2/5	N	Halasht, Heaven-reacher
Merolle, The Verdigris Legion, Many Others	Draken	Intermediate Deity	Storm (Corrosion), Metal (Dominion), Artifice (Craftsmanship), Law (Logic), Strength (Power) and City (Civilization)	3/5	LE	The Creator
Halasht, Heaven-reacher, The Broken Chains, Chief Clanmaster	Hydranova	Lesser Deity	Independance (Defiance), Merit (Personal Skills), Trials(Nature), Warriors (Barbarians)	0/4	CN	The Creator
Lilli, the Lady of Bloodied Secrets	Exachix	Fledgling Deity	Death (Slaughter), Knowledge (Secrets), Magic (Divination)	1/3	CE	Reisen, the fool
Galidyd, The Adventurer, The Fine-Clad Man	Malfunctioned	Fledgling Deity	Courage (Heroes), Fate (Adventure)	0/3	NG	Gwyn, The First Knight
Zankrith, He Who Sorts the Dead	Bunny Of Faith	Fledgling Deity	Balance (Life and Death), Death (Afterlife)	0/3	N	Belsheroth, the Starlit Reaper
Adelaide, The Countess, Our Beautiful Lady	HearTheRequiem	Fledgling Deity	Nobility (Decorum), Beauty (Fine Art), Artifice (Diligence)	1/3	LN	Kipt
Caledur, the Red Lightning	THEChanger	Fledgling Deity	Sky(Storms), Growth(Challenges)	0/3	N	Gwyn the First Knight
Eroberung, Bringer of the Destined Conquest	rorikdude12	Fledgling Deity	Conquest (Violence), Pioneering (Frontier Lands)	0/3	NE	Yohalles, The Wanderer
Aipar, Truth Seeker	Loko	Fledgling Deity	Illusions(Mind), Truth(Discovery)	0/3	N	Reisen, The Fool

New gods will be added when approved by 2 or more mods. The mods will try to keep a balance in alignment, but it is not controlling.

[Xondoure]

Hurrah new thread!

Originally Posted by Yeshon

The dreaming is a place of pure chaos, where the minds of saints and psychopaths meet in a disturbing ballet around an undefinable immovable constantly shifting center. It's also a place where one's will is the sole determinant of power, as such, it was the worst possible place for us to fight the dream lich, but whatever.

In other words, sounds perfect.

EDIT: @Elemental: Yes we do, give me a moment.

That's the labyrinth minus the plane trying to take your identity from you and eat it for the sake of the universe. In other words, piece of cake.

Originally Posted by C'nor

Savorla might ask him. In the sense of "You're a god, so we can't kill you, which means as long as those chains stay on, I can do whatever I have to to get you to fix this".



As a supplementary method of interaction, I'm fine with it. The only way they can... Not so much.

Well, once you send some followers visions to guide them, you can interact through them. Age of the Prophets.

[Elemental]

My opinion on the dreaming being the only interactions between Gods and Mortals, it sounds like a bad idea. They already don't listen, so why would they listen to something in their dreams?

[Elricaltovilla]

Originally Posted by Elemental

My opinion on the dreaming being the only interactions between Gods and Mortals, it sounds like a bad idea. They already don't listen, so why would they listen to something in their dreams?

Blessing: 1 AP. Prophetic Visions.

True Believers of the Gods are able to recieve, identify and interpret Prophetic Visions sent to them by their god and share these visions with other mortals. The Gods can use these Prophetic Visions to communicate their will to their followers.

FTFY

[Elemental]

Originally Posted by Elricaltovilla

Blessing: 1 AP. Prophetic Visions.

True Believers of the Gods are able to recieve, identify and interpret Prophetic Visions sent to them by their god and share these visions with other mortals. The Gods can use these Prophetic Visions to communicate their will to their followers.

FTFY

But you forget. The number of true believers has dwindled and now the mortals can neither see nor hear gods.
It won't be the Age of Prophets, it would be the Age of Insomniac Atheists.

[Elricaltovilla]

Originally Posted by Elemental

But you forget. The number of true believers has dwindled and now the mortals can neither see nor hear gods.
It won't be the Age of Prophets, it would be the Age of Insomniac Atheists.

Nowhere does it say there are no true believers left. So you can still communicate with followers. it's a bit like playing Telephone, but at least you can get your message out there.

And as Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, and many other religions can attest, proselytising works.

[mystic1110]

Originally Posted by Elemental

But you forget. The number of true believers has dwindled and now the mortals can neither see nor hear gods.
It won't be the Age of Prophets, it would be the Age of Insomniac Atheists.

The Age of Prophets who preach on street corners but are believed by very few and thought to generally be very nice people who are in need of medical and psychiatric attention.

@Elricaltovilla: My god spread the concept of Atheism and prevented gods talking to mortals. Additionally mortals now have the false gods to worship

[Yeshon]

Originally Posted by Elemental

But you forget. The number of true believers has dwindled and now the mortals can neither see nor hear gods.
It won't be the Age of Prophets, it would be the Age of Insomniac Atheists.

...

I see no problem with this plan.

@Elricaltovilla: Aww, but I want my insominiac atheists.

@Everyone: I realize I'm still behind on domains and such in the OP, so please remind me if you see I'm missing something.

[Elricaltovilla]

Originally Posted by Yeshon

...

I see no problem with this plan.

@Elricaltovilla: Aww, but I want my insominiac atheists.

As an insomniac atheist: hi.

[Yeshon]

Originally Posted by Elricaltovilla

As an insomniac atheist: hi.

Yay! Now go preach your fever dreams!

[Elemental]

Okay. Well, you guys can have insomniac atheists if you want. Belsheroth can still influence the mortal plane.


Also, @C'Nor: With the whole thing with the blindness/deafness, somehow, I didn't see your roll. My apologies. I should have read it more carefully before complaining.

[C'nor]

*Shrugs*

Alright.

Yeshon:

Savorla is still missing War (Weaponcrafting), Beauty (Death), and Change (Healing).

[Elricaltovilla]

Originally Posted by Elemental

Okay. Well, you guys can have insomniac atheists if you want. Belsheroth can still influence the mortal plane.

Or maybe Ombra's gonna save the day by convincing Nettal to take the barrier down. Cuz he asked.

[Yeshon]

Originally Posted by Elemental

Okay. Well, you guys can have insomniac atheists if you want. Belsheroth can still influence the mortal plane.


Also, @C'Nor: With the whole thing with the blindness/deafness, somehow, I didn't see your roll. My apologies. I should have read it more carefully before complaining.

Eh, I was more thinking about Socrates down in the Academy.

@C'Nor: kay, gimme a moment.

[C'nor]

Thanks!

Also, her entry in the Circle of Darkness table should probably reflect her increased rank, and Anarya is infused.

[Xondoure]

Let's not forget AP could be spent on mortals through RP while they are in the dream realm. It just wouldn't effect them physically. Gifts of magic and insight would be completely valid, as would curses of madness and ignorance. Not to mention sending creatures down to the material plane from other worlds. Everything becomes much more indirect, but that's what makes it interesting.

And if Belsheroth wants to stomp around directly using AP on the mortal world, he'll be forced to answer to the other gods as he can't go hide there himself. That won't be pretty for him.

The way I see it I picture artifacts falling from the skies, heroes given visions of falling stars so that they might recover the meteoric treasures before others who would abuse the gifts of the gods might find them. Prophets preaching of gods no one believes in while false gods reign supreme over the material, slowly becoming more and more corrupt as even the purest intentions are twisted. Forced to adapt most gods stop trying to be recognized as themselves but rather as the concepts they represent. Shaping agents to follow their bidding who aren't even aware that they serve a greater purpose. In such ways they work to change the world without seeking recognition, as old religions slowly die.

Souls forced to choose between the risks of losing one's identity and in doing so mortality (intentionally becoming lost, perhaps to a gracious collector working to give people immortality,) entering the deserts to live in eternal undeath or risking the judgement of the starlit reaper.

I don't know about you guys, but that seems like an awesome campaign setting to me.

[Elricaltovilla]

Originally Posted by Xondoure

Let's not forget AP could be spent on mortals through RP while they are in the dream realm. It just wouldn't effect them physically. Gifts of magic and insight would be completely valid, as would curses of madness and ignorance. Not to mention sending creatures down to the material plane from other worlds. Everything becomes much more indirect, but that's what makes it interesting.

And if Belsheroth wants to stomp around directly using AP on the mortal world, he'll be forced to answer to the other gods as he can't go hide there himself. That won't be pretty for him.

The way I see it I picture artifacts falling from the skies, heroes given visions of falling stars so that they might recover the meteoric treasures before others who would abuse the gifts of the gods might find them. Prophets preaching of gods no one believes in while false gods reign supreme over the material, slowly becoming more and more corrupt as even the purest intentions are twisted. Forced to adapt most gods stop trying to be recognized as themselves but rather as the concepts they represent. Shaping agents to follow their bidding who aren't even aware that they serve a greater purpose. In such ways they work to change the world without seeking recognition, as old religions slowly die.

Souls forced to choose between the risks of losing one's identity and in doing so mortality (intentionally becoming lost, perhaps to a gracious collector working to give people immortality,) entering the deserts to live in eternal undeath or risking the judgement of the starlit reaper.

I don't know about you guys, but that seems like an awesome campaign setting to me.

*tears of joy streaming down my face* so beautiful...

[mystic1110]

Originally Posted by Xondoure

Let's not forget AP could be spent on mortals through RP while they are in the dream realm. It just wouldn't effect them physically. Gifts of magic and insight would be completely valid, as would curses of madness and ignorance. Not to mention sending creatures down to the material plane from other worlds. Everything becomes much more indirect, but that's what makes it interesting.

And if Belsheroth wants to stomp around directly using AP on the mortal world, he'll be forced to answer to the other gods as he can't go hide there himself. That won't be pretty for him.

The way I see it I picture artifacts falling from the skies, heroes given visions of falling stars so that they might recover the meteoric treasures before others who would abuse the gifts of the gods might find them. Prophets preaching of gods no one believes in while false gods reign supreme over the material, slowly becoming more and more corrupt as even the purest intentions are twisted. Forced to adapt most gods stop trying to be recognized as themselves but rather as the concepts they represent. Shaping agents to follow their bidding who aren't even aware that they serve a greater purpose. In such ways they work to change the world without seeking recognition, as old religions slowly die.

Souls forced to choose between the risks of losing one's identity and in doing so mortality (intentionally becoming lost, perhaps to a gracious collector working to give people immortality,) entering the deserts to live in eternal undeath or risking the judgement of the starlit reaper.

I don't know about you guys, but that seems like an awesome campaign setting to me.

Clap Clap.....well said

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Elricaltovilla

Or maybe Ombra's gonna save the day by convincing Nettal to take the barrier down. Cuz he asked.

I doubt it. I'm not very good at posing logical points in an argument. As you saw with the Sailor.

[C'nor]

Oh, it would make for a great setting to play mortals in, sure.

But the way I tend to see LoC games is that, for the most part, they've moved away from being meant to build a world for use later. Certainly, one could still be made with that intent, and the world built with one not meant for it could be played in, but the main purpose of all the ones I've seen has, essentially, been to play as deities; it's gone from LoC being a way to make worlds for the main game, to it being the main game, and playing as a deity in that setting, is, in my opinion, not going to be as fun as playing one in a setting where they can interact with the world.

Of course, this probably has a lot to do with our choice of deity; you made one who already works indirectly for the most part, whereas mine is involved on an intimate level (and no, not just because she's sleeping with them ) with mortals, and has that as a major part of her personality and concept.

[mystic1110]

damn I'm finally starting to understand what losing Isanloff meant. Belshorath was the most balanced of the old gods... I guess with his older brother gone, he tried to assume his responsibilities yet he tried to avoid the whole uber-empathizing that Isanloff did and tried to become removed from those he served. That was against his nature and over the years he self-hate drove him mad. Gwyn on the other hand tried to use Isanloff's legacy about duty to instill a sense of duty in others. She also took on her fathers mirror and sense of responsibility but tempered with the realization that you need pain for progress. Additionally her love for Ombra kept her from becoming too much like her father. At the same time Ombra with no great tyrant to fight against become more reasonable and personable compared to his shadowy former self. Morgash coming back evil and a twisted shade of Isanloff will throw those dynamics into the blender - possibly the gods will turn on the Fool for making mockery of their memories and the burdens they all grew up with...

[Elricaltovilla]

Psst...

4 AP makes a new Plane. Without a curse on it. Where you can put mortals.

Or, we could let the trial play out and see what happens.

[Xondoure]

Originally Posted by C'nor

Oh, it would make for a great setting to play mortals in, sure.

But the way I tend to see LoC games is that, for the most part, they've moved away from being meant to build a world for use later. Certainly, one could still be made with that intent, and the world built with one not meant for it could be played in, but the main purpose of all the ones I've seen has, essentially, been to play as deities; it's gone from LoC being a way to make worlds for the main game, to it being the main game, and playing as a deity in that setting, is, in my opinion, not going to be as fun as playing one in a setting where they can interact with the world.

Of course, this probably has a lot to do with our choice of deity; you made one who already works indirectly for the most part, whereas mine is involved on an intimate level (and no, not just because she's sleeping with them ) with mortals, and has that as a major part of her personality and concept.

There isn't anything preventing mortals from leaving the material plane as long as the doors remain open. The way I see it, this forces the Fae to become interested in being collectors. Or perhaps directly harvesting through dreams. Another possibility is using the portals to and from Kiloasa's wild nature plane to send forth Fae and lure them back to Savoria's home plane.

And beyond that, all the other dimensions are still open to direct conflict between the gods. Besides, it's not as if anyone but newborn gods can walk upon the earth anyways. The only thing this truly prevents is alter/create land and Bless/Curses. Even then some curses/blessings such as blotting out the sun or writing messages in the stars would have repercussions for the material plane below.

Edit@Mystic: What you mean giving out the essences of dead gods as party favors / reanimating them into twisted corrupted forms might be offensive to some people? My bad...

[Novaix]

@yeshon Fyurl's missing his constantly-changing-because-OOC-confusion domain, which has finally settled on being Magic (Jiang Shi)

[Xondoure]

@Elrical and Mystic: Oh! Before I forget, thanks for the kind words gentlemen. *Tries stoically to prevent tears of gratitude.*

@Yeshon: I was wondering if you could replace Renewal (creation) with Madness (hope?) Seeing as I accidentally gave you renewal twice thinking I'd already sent in the madness domain.

[Elricaltovilla]

@Yeshon: How detailed a recounting do you want IC? I don't mind typing up a summary, but OOC everybody can read the posts.

Unless its too much work (I know the feeling)

[Elricaltovilla]

Originally Posted by mystic1110

damn I'm finally starting to understand what losing Isanloff meant. Belshorath was the most balanced of the old gods... I guess with his older brother gone, he tried to assume his responsibilities yet he tried to avoid the whole uber-empathizing that Isanloff did and tried to become removed from those he served. That was against his nature and over the years he self-hate drove him mad. Gwyn on the other hand tried to use Isanloff's legacy about duty to instill a sense of duty in others. She also took on her fathers mirror and sense of responsibility but tempered with the realization that you need pain for progress. Additionally her love for Ombra kept her from becoming too much like her father. At the same time Ombra with no great tyrant to fight against become more reasonable and personable compared to his shadowy former self. Morgash coming back evil and a twisted shade of Isanloff will throw those dynamics into the blender - possibly the gods will turn on the Fool for making mockery of their memories and the burdens they all grew up with...

I love how this all suddenly became about Isanloff, . Maybe I can do the same thing for Kiloasa? Haha.

EDIT: Sorry, double posted.

[Yeshon]

Originally Posted by Elricaltovilla

@Yeshon: How detailed a recounting do you want IC? I don't mind typing up a summary, but OOC everybody can read the posts.

Unless its too much work (I know the feeling)

Whatever you feel comfortable typing. Something as simple as *and he told them all that had transpired* works for me, to something as complicated as a poetic epic of the story Belsheroth's fall.

@Xonoduore: I don't really mind.

[Lord_Asmodeus]

Hey so I'm curious, the curse blocks all AP expenditures by the gods, but AP does not purely cover divine power or divine influence. If I wanted to spend AP to have mortals change their society because of the influence of a philosopher or a great leader, could I still do that, as its mortal influence on mortals? What about the Avaricia, they have been able to manipulate the mortal plain without having the power direct from the gods IIRC, what if they wanted to change something, offer some deals, could they still do that, even if a player had to spend AP to make it happen? Would it change anything if a god asked them to do something but didn't provide them his own power to do so, like Vargull did, and had them use their natural power to do it?

[Elemental]

Originally Posted by Yeshon

Whatever you feel comfortable typing. Something as simple as *and he told them all that had transpired* works for me, to something as complicated as a poetic epic of the story Belsheroth's fall.

Ooh... Do that!

With the AP expenditure to release Nettal, the way Darklord did it is fine.