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[Moonlitdreams]

Originally Posted by Anecronwashere

Oh: How are we going to do diplomacy? I mean, I'm sure a bunch of us could potentially impersonate the others which would be rather quickly rooted out if it's the wrong Username doing a deal.

Beyond the Username method, there are plenty of ways with class abilities and spells to ascertain the identity of the individual before you.

And I heard that the Legendary Cosmic Ability stacks now?? giving x4 to a Mod for 12 Divine Ability Slots rather than x2 max for 6 DAS

Since when?

[Anecronwashere]

So everyone will be walking around with primary stats out the wazoo?
Awesome

Does the feat /2HD count for followers too? let's see, 36 feats for a Cosmic. x2 meaning it's 72 HD per Legendary.
Add on some massive stat-boosting templates like the Immortals Dire animal, and a Breeding Program.
heh. heheh. Mwahahahahahahahaha!!!

EDIT: yes but they can be bypassed. The Metagame method of Usernames is fool-proof without getting the person being impersonated in on it.

[Moonlitdreams]

The question, then, is what do we consider "out the wazoo?" Number of digits would be nice...

[greenpotato]

Originally Posted by Anecronwashere

And I heard that the Legendary Cosmic Ability stacks now?? giving x4 to a Mod for 12 Divine Ability Slots rather than x2 max for 6 DAS

Originally Posted by Dr.Orpheus

Thats what shady told me.

*Sigh* Every time I get close to finishing something like this happens and I have to redo have my sheet.

[greenpotato]

Originally Posted by Moonlitdreams

The question, then, is what do we consider "out the wazoo?" Number of digits would be nice...

If you become my sworn ally I will tell you my charisma score.

[Moonlitdreams]

Originally Posted by greenpotato

If you become my sworn ally I will tell you my charisma score.

Something of that degree isn't really necessary, I'm just looking for some arbitrary example.

[greenpotato]

okay, higher than 100,000 (and if you'd said yes I would have told you the real number )

[Dr.Orpheus]

I'll go there out and say my Con is over 100,000,000.

[Anecronwashere]

over 9,000!!
I don't know what number I'll settle on, probably like Dr O with 100,000. Any more and it just gets silly.

[Kazyan]

Remember the D&D multiplication rules. If you have Wisdom 100, and you take Legendary Wisdom eight times, it becomes 900, not 25,600.

[Anecronwashere]

Since it's a Houserule to go from x2 to x4 it apparently isn't following double-double=triple

Though even if it is adding on Stats is just a case of time and money

[Kazyan]

*flips table* Exponential growth is what that rule was designed to prevent, because exponential growth is preposterous. I have exactly two abilities that are acquired through exponential growth, and both are silly.

[Anecronwashere]

I agree, exponential is a lot. Usually for little expenditure


I also think we should all reveal our Ability Scores. Just those but otherwise we'll end up with people who think 1,000 in every score is ok, with 100,000 being the equivalent to a 10 in that score for others
Though once we get past something like 200/300, odds are you are using an NI Loop (not Infinite, simply repeatable and stackable)

[Kazyan]

I have two digits in everything except Int, which has three. But then, I don't have cosmic abilities. Better check with the others.

[greenpotato]

Originally Posted by Anecronwashere

using an NI Loop (not Infinite, simply repeatable and stackable)

But that's the same thing... if it has no upper limit it is an infinite loop.

[Snowfire]

I...honestly haven't decided yet. I've built my character so far aiming for saves and such in the low thousands. However considering what has been said so far, I guess pushing them might be a reasonable idea. It's mainly just a case of how far I want to go.

Originally Posted by greenpotato

But that's the same thing... if it has no upper limit it is an infinite loop.

Technically incorrect. It's an unlimited loop more than an infinite one. Semantics aside however, I do see your point. But I doubt it's going to matter all that much in this game... *sigh*

[Anecronwashere]

No it isn't. Infinite is something like the D2 Crusader, where the one ability, activated once causes a chain which activates itself which causes a chain which activates itself...

NI is where Inputx1 (say 1,000GP) = Output1 (say, 10,000 Bricks)
If I plug in Inputx10 (for 10,000GP) I get Output10 (100,000 Bricks)

The trick is to set it up so Input is a refreshable resource (like Spell Slots or /day abilites) while Output is permanent and stacks with itself.
Permanency Wall of Stone is a refreshable NI trick.

[Grimsage Matt]

Intresting enough, making everything I can use based off INT is a EX abillity. Now, how high can I Gene mod me Int Eh, lets just do the simple 1 billion. I'm a cybernetic entitiy that transcended flesh, blood and normal mentality.

Edit; Well, it's really 5 EX abillities. Int replace (Str, Dex, Con, Wis, Cha). So for everything based off those, I use Int instead. Technicly, I don't even need 'em anymore, Int Replaces them utterly

Also, for any of the "free" templates... I'm going to ignore the abillity bonuses.

[drack]

Eh, dunno my scores yet. haven't had tie to redo since the last change...

[Dr.Orpheus]

Originally Posted by Kazyan

*flips table* Exponential growth is what that rule was designed to prevent, because exponential growth is preposterous. I have exactly two abilities that are acquired through exponential growth, and both are silly.

All this hype on exponential growth and it's just multiplicative.

[Grimsage Matt]

Mines additive. I can get +X to Int every 20 or so days (I have devices that compress time), where is is anything the DM don't shoot down. Other wise, I could hit 478 trillion damn fast. But, I have no idea how to play something THAT smart.

Also, if I get that smart....

[Dr.Orpheus]

I am generally against +x over time I say you have to do something that has some form of cost in order to improve.

[drack]

Yup, it can get about as silly as exponential ability growth (2^number of times taken) for instance

[Kazyan]

Originally Posted by Dr.Orpheus

All this hype on exponential growth and it's just multiplicative.

What other facet of the game do you know of that is not just multiplicative, but iterative? As in, you can multiply repeatedly, obsoleting the strictly linear increases that come from just about every other source of +numbers ever? X of Smack builds double their damage every two size increases, but that's the only exponential source I'm aware of.

[Dr.Orpheus]

Well many IHB stuff doubles things and I know homebrew that does too.

[ShadowFireLance]

Im going to put out, With following the Same rules you guys are, I have ALL, Let me say that again, ALL Stat MODS in the millions, With PSI, Magic, AND Incaurm.
Not even going to say the Leadership.

*EDIT bolded

[rweird]

Originally Posted by ShadowFireLance

Im going to put out, With following the Same rules you guys are, I have ALL, Let me say that again, ALL Stat MODS in the millions, With PSI, Magic, AND Incaurm.
Not even going to say the Leadership.

*EDIT bolded

What level is Izeldias anyways, from what I can tell, he is over Demiurge in power and level, from how you portray him, either that or he is a complete megalomaniac and wants to make enemies of pretty much everything that has an equal ego, eventually he'd fight something to strong for him to beat (unless he can't find it). I'm pretty sure i can get my abilities arbitrarily high, and keep getting them higher, though that isn't anything new. Everyone probably could.

[Kazyan]

Originally Posted by ShadowFireLance

Im going to put out, With following the Same rules you guys are, I have ALL, Let me say that again, ALL Stat MODS in the millions, With PSI, Magic, AND Incaurm.
Not even going to say the Leadership.

*EDIT bolded

We're not supposed to be shooting for that, right? Are we all trying to be in the same power level? Because it ain't happening.

Also, needs more Truenaming, Shady.

[Dr.Orpheus]

Oh believe me there's Truenaming.

[Kazyan]

Trivia: Using the virtual size category rules, a character starts outweighing the upper bound for the mass of the universe at about a permanent Strength of 2,000.