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Hmm, I'm considering tossing my hat in with an NPC from the other nations game that I've been reserving for anyone who broke reality too badly, would that be cool? Should only take about twenty minutes to pull all the pieces I have lying around here together for it, but it may be a bit high op for this... What kinda op are we thinking again?
Or you could work on your own nations game? *wink wink nudge nudge*
Hmm, I'm considering tossing my hat in with an NPC from the other nations game that I've been reserving for anyone who broke reality too badly, would that be cool? Should only take about twenty minutes to pull all the pieces I have lying around here together for it, but it may be a bit high op for this... What kinda op are we thinking again?
Welcome drack! I... Oh shi... *remembers what one said earlier in thread*
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Pulling a drack by answering requests/posts the hard way huh? I have to say this is quite the case of drack-throphy if I've ever seen it. Its like lycanthropy, but instead of turning into a badass wolf you turn into a very cynical and sarcastic man who likes to toy with his players emotions...
Uh... Um... Have you met my evil twin brother Egniil? Yeah, he was the one that posted that I swear!
In all seriousness, welcome aboard. Knowing Shady (and Dr. O as the co-dm) they are expecting high, as in able to get a bonus 500HD and still could gain more power kinda optimization.
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Welcome drack! I... Oh shi... *remembers what one said earlier in thread*
Uh... Um... Have you met my evil twin brother Egniil? Yeah, he was the one that posted that I swear!
In all seriousness, welcome aboard. Knowing Shady (and Dr. O as the co-dm) they are expecting high, as in able to get a bonus 500HD and still could gain more power kinda optimization.
Ah, thanks for correcting me on that point. Remind me later to kill Egnil and his twin later, Egnil for his comment and his twin for not being the evil one. Though I suppose when I say "kill" I really mean give me a chance to savor a moment of invigoration... "pleasure" ... with some of my old toys... Oh knee splitter, how I've longed to take you from your hiding place as the teeth to my tiki mask and allow you to again renew that coat of red for authenticity...
Edit: ah level 50... so just low enough that I don't get to use my favorite races from immortals... figures.
"14. Is a character background required? If so, how big? Are you looking for anything in particular (i.e. the backgrounds all ending up with the characters in the same city)?
Like a skirt, Long enough to cover the improtent bits, but Short enough to keep intrest, Must have at least one Background enemy, And one ally, Or you can make it as long as you want."
What if you prefer long and colorful dresses? I mean nothing against skirts, but their not quite long enough to swerve and flow about you as you move casting intricate patterns of color and beauty around the room with your every step...
" Also Mystic Theruge Type Double Progression Is allowed."
May need to consider a tweak then.
" Also: 500 HD is the max at the Start if you happen to find a way to gain more then 50.It is as normal HD, Tristalted."
Shoot... I was gonna go for 100,000...
...though I may be able to get away with that one on a technicality, I'll probably ask via PM later.
"Hmm, how about 2 Handicaps, You all shall have enough Abilites as it is"
K, what are they?
"But please, keep in mind my Triadic Homebrew Rules!" You really, really can't talk. Anywho are we allowing private homebrew submissions since it may spoil half my character if I public post-em?
"Homebrew with +66LA approved" So how do you take that again?
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I'm thinking of going for a ewclaiming lost kingdom scenerio with a mummified Paladin/Tomb Warden/Fist of Raziel*
will change the name to be more deserty and eygpt like sounding.
He'll be a powerful pharaoh try to reconquer his kingdom from his tomb/lost city
Keeping him LG since I've found it funny that Mummies could basicly be LG most of the time and any conquering/killing he does will be in defense or in reclaiming his territory (since it is lawfuly his in his mind and he is restoring order.) Anyway I hope this concept works okay.
Sounds fun.
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All allies within 115 ft. of me always roll a natural 20, and all allies roll a natural 0
I think you mean enemies on the latter, but this begs the question... "Alllwwaays?" Don't tempt me...
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Originally Posted by Dr.Orpheus
Not OP in the least I might take a divine ability that does the same thing. I can honestly say that if you don't use IHB you will be at a slight disadvantage then everyone even if you were the best powergamer in the group.
Sweet, I love disadvantages, they make me feel like I can actually go all out...
... well maybe not all out, but out enough to balance it out... kinda getting tired of all these self nurfs for chars in that other game, and intentionally making everything easy to kill...
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I would say aim for the hundreds, likely the high hundreds.
yup
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Originally Posted by Saidoro
Clones lose spellcasting but the keep anything else you have, including spell-like and supernatural abilities. So I cast the spell once at CL 50 and there's 11 of me. Each of those 11 have Body Outside Body once per day as a supernatural ability and 10 times per day as a spell like ability. All of them use the supernatural ability and then there's 121 of me with Body outside of Body 10/day as a spell like ability each of them use that... Exponential growth is fun.
yup, a classic one.
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HOLY MOTHER OF CRAP!
I go away for a couple of hours, and i have 66 Replies, And 3 pages?
AWESOME!
Also, Watch for homebrew approval here.
Igneel? Cutting into my soft spot with the LA/Ecl=hd their are we not?
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Creature of Legend Tarrasque VoP Fix (will have to do lvls 41-50) Epic Hero
Anything Epic-wise from this post
ECL = HD for certain Monster races (dragons for example) if they don't have monster classes/HD+LA to make them playable.
"The true purpose of the Tarrasque comes into being. To slay all the gods and their creations. The Tarrasque becomes fully immune to all salient divine abilities and epic magic, and can freely use his reality bend ability to enter any private realms (assuming it has heard about them). The tarrasque also becomes immune to artifacts and can destroy any such trinket by swallowing them."
Not immune to abilites above Salient abilites however.
Dragons are ECL=HD only them for right now.
All approved-esque
Librim Eternia: Tome of Epic Prestige Is allowed, Dont abuse it.
Are allowed. Some one shares my enthusasim! YAA!...
Hey Rweird:
1) Does what the Immortals Handbook says should be replaced by feats in the Immortals Handbook get replaced, is it our choice? Something else?
2) Is epic spellcasting allowed?
3) Do we follow the ELH saying that characters with PC/PrC classes count as higher level?
1) is kinda confuseing
2) Duh yes.
3) For Followers? Nope, They count as the level you have them at.
Also, yes, I did steal something stolen.
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-Subtract 50,000 GP from your starting wealth total. You're a noble of some sort. Not a king, but you have some influence in one country. You probably have a nice mansion. Any magical enhancements or protections on this mansion still cost gold.
This requires very little explanation. You could be born into it, strong-armed your way, etc.
-Subtract 100,000 GP from your starting wealth total. You are the high priest of a small religion. The deity's actual divine rank doesn't matter, only how many worshipers it has. Your religion is relatively unknown - few have heard of your god, you only have a few temples or underground cult chapters (If a seedier religion.) You worship a weak god, an imprisoned god, an elder evil, or other obscure divine force. You have access to 40 1st level clerics, 20 3rd level clerics, 10 5th level clerics, and one 10th level cleric. In addition, you have 300 nonclerics who have 1 level in a PC class, 150 2nd level nonclerics who have 1 level in a PC class, 50 of 5th level, and 2 of 10th level.
Finally, you have 400 members of NPC classes, 90% of which are 1st level.
-Subtract 200,000 GP from your starting wealth total. You're the ruler of a small kingdom (less than 10,000 inhabitants). You have access to a military of a size you choose that cannot exceed more than 50% of the population. These are 1st level warriors, with one 5th level character per 1000 men. You may want to take the leadership feat in order to add more high-level people to your army. A general as a cohort might be a good idea. Or another PC could be your general.
You may have a castle, palace, or other royal dwelling of your choice. This is free once you buy this, but any enhancements or protections are not.
NOTE: If you take this, you're going to have to provide some explanation of your kingdom's government and how you got the kingdom. Inheritance is fine, but boring.
-Subtract 300,000 GP from your starting wealth total. You are the high priest of a medium-sized religion. Most people have probably heard of your god and probably of you too. You have access to 100 1st level clerics, 50 2nd level clerics, 25 3rd level clerics, 20 5th level clerics, and 2 10th level clerics. In addition, you have access to 200 1st level nonclerics with PC classes, 100 2nd, 25 3rd, and 5 5th.
There are 5,000 people with NPC class levels who follow your religion, and 90% of them are 1st level. You must be able to cast 8th level divine spells to take this.
-Subtract 500,000 GP from your starting wealth total. You rule a medium sized kingdom, with approximately 50,000 inhabitants. You may have a military composing no more than 45% of the population, most of them 1st level warriors with a one 5th level character per 1000 men, and one 10th level character per 5000 men. Again, consider taking leadership and explain how you got it.
NOTE: Add CRx100,000 GP if you wish to rule a kingdom of beings with a challenge rating 1 or higher. For example, if you want to rule a medium kingdom of elves, it costs 500,000 GP. If you want to rule a medium kingdom of Drow, it costs 600,000 GP.
-Subtract 1,000,000 GP from your starting wealth. You are the high priest of a well known god. You have access to 1000 1st level clerics, 500 2nd level clerics, 500 3rd level clerics, 100 5th level clerics, 20 10th level clerics, and 3 15th level clerics. In addition, you have access to 1000 1st level nonclerics, 1000 2nd level nonclerics, 500 3rd level nonclerics, 400 fifth level nonclerics, 100 tenth level nonclerics, and 20 fifteenth level nonclerics. In addition, there are 50,000 members of NPC classes who follow your religion. You must be able to cast 9th level divine spells to take this.
-Subtract 1,300,000 GP from your starting wealth. You are the ruler of a large kingdom containing 500,000 inhabatants. You may have a military consisting of up to 40% of these inhabitants in which the standard soldier is a level 1 Warrior, there is one 5th level character per 1000 men, one 10th level character per 5000 men, and one level 15 character per 50,000 men
-Subtract 1,000,000 GP from your starting wealth. You are the high priest of a well known god. You have access to 1000 1st level clerics, 500 2nd level clerics, 500 3rd level clerics, 100 5th level clerics, 20 10th level clerics, and 3 15th level clerics. In addition, you have access to 1000 1st level nonclerics, 1000 2nd level nonclerics, 500 3rd level nonclerics, 400 fifth level nonclerics, 100 tenth level nonclerics, and 20 fifteenth level nonclerics. In addition, there are 50,000 members of NPC classes who follow your religion. You must be able to cast 9th level divine spells to take this.
-Subtract 7,500,000GP from your starting wealth. You are the high priest of a major religion devoted to one of the domonant gods. You have acess to 10,000 1st level clerics, 5,000 2nd level clerics, 1000 3rd level clerics, 500 5th level clerics, 100 tenth level clerics, 20 15th level clerics, 10 20th level clerics, and 4 25th level clerics, you also have acess to 10,000 1st level nonclerics, 5,000 2nd level nonclerics, 1000 3rd level nonclerics, 500 5th level nonclerics, 100 tenth level nonclerics, 20 15th level nonclerics, 10 20th level nonclerics, and 4 25th level nonclerics, in addition there are 100,000 follower of your religion out in the world willing to aid you.
-Subtract 100,000 for a small information network through which you hear the going ones of other nations, or subtract 1,000,000 for a large one that has far reaching influences with spies wherever they can possibly gain access.
-Subtract 6,000,000 GP from your starting wealth. You are the ruler of a major kingdom containing 3,000,000 inhabitants. You may have a military consisting of up a third of these inhabitants as level 1 warriors, There is one 5th level character per 1000 men, one 10th level character ofr every 5000 men, one 15th level character per 50,000 men, one 20th level character per 250,000 men, and one level 25 character per 500,000 men.
-Subtract 2,000,000 GP From your staring wealth, you have managed to magically lift a chunk of land from the ground, it moves at a speed of 5', and can suport a civilization.
OTHER ORGANIZATIONS: Basically, take the listed costs and rules for the high priest ones, change them so they read appropriately. I.E. A wizarding organization has access to wizards rather than clerics, and where it reads "noncleric" it should now read "nonwizard." You must then be able to cast 9th level arcane spells, rather than 9th level divine spells.
You cannot be the high priest of more than one religion. Being a high priest or runner of a wizarding ordrer is different from having a kingdom. Most of the clerics just run temples or secret cults, and the followers are followers of the religion, not minions. You can rally some of them together or task them with a specific mission once in awhile, but they do not solely do your building. Basically, you don't have an army, you have a support base. You may have one paladin type (Slaughter/Tyranny, Antipaladin, etc.) per 500 members of your religion. These aren't in addition to your followers, you may simply have them among your followers. These guys are your champions, and actually do do your bidding.
And yes, The Mighty Nation Of Dragons, Lead by the God Wyrm, Izeldias, And his Queen, Tiamat.
*Silently pukes on perversion of the mighty Izeldus*
Edit: anywho the mighty shaman of the darkened hills Draw-ka-ka-ka Meldemontde is open for negotiations.
Background
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The Darkened Hills was once a prosperous region before that time. A great king ruled over the region, and never before had so many lived and prospered under the skies. The luscious fields bore crops aplenty, and the king had forged great pacts with all the neighboring countries. Sadly the heir was not so great an influence. He reaped a fair bounty in souls of those who lived under him, turning their corporeal forms into weapons of mass slaughter. It is said he even contacted the dead ones, a race that had terrorized humanity enslaving them all to death before the dawn of the world, and had left without a trace or reason. Regardless of any truth there may be in this the former allies of the land, and nations from the entirety of the material plane banded together to fight this monster flooding the hill with an endless rain of bloodshed. At long last the prince was overthrown and killed, his vary soul mutilated beyond repair and consumed, and yet none claimed those lands. No, they were said to be cursed as the sun never shone in these parts, and even the hills themselves would bleed underfoot from all the blood they were bloated with. Soon castoffs and vagabonds tried to fin refuge in those lands only to be found torn to ribbons where they entered the cursed lands. Eventually though a message emerged from those forsaken lands, scribed in clotted blood on stretched human skin, held in place by shattered bone fragments. This message read that the dark shaman Draw-ka-ka-ka Meldemontde had hold of the dark hills and would not tolerate any trespassing on his land. Now the darkened hills ar no more a lush and prosperous land where men and women travel to see the wonders of the world, but a dark and distraught war torn land in which the sun never rises, and all the haunted souls of the world go when they feel they must die. In famine and plague droves come to that forsaken place, and yet none now come who wish to leave.
Oh yeah, and I forgot to say, but I think I'm probably gonna end up at odds with the first vampire. Something about there being a "first" that has lived this long just makes me want to kill it. Everyone with me send a quick PM and I'm sure we can arrange a proppor alliance with -snip- a few nice little tricks
OMG!!!! It's Shady and Doc O!!! Hey you two. I was wondering if there's still room in the icrazy idea for a game? Because I would love to cause some shinanigans
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IC - Cerberus Silvershaper IC - Richard Shieldhand
IC - Sho'vothar
IC - Logan Ebonkill
How would one get 500HD in 50 class levels? I've been wondering about that
There's a number of effects that increase your hit dice that are accessible via magic and/or Psionics. Some of them are capped only by time spent working on them (others, such as the Bhargest's Feed, have a fixed limit that's well below the 50 we're starting with anyway).
Oh, and just to double check, as I'm having a slight problem believing the parse that seems right:
"500 HD is the max at the Start if you happen to find a way to gain more then 50.It is as normal HD, Tristalted." - so does that mean if I use a method that increases hit dice, I have 500 hit dice, one "side" of which is 50 levels of my choosing + 450 hit dice as demanded for whatever funny method I use to increase them, and the other two "Sides" of which are 500 arbitrary class levels of my choosing?
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Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.
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OMG!!!! It's Shady and Doc O!!! Hey you two. I was wondering if there's still room in the icrazy idea for a game? Because I would love to cause some shinanigans
Hey there you may need a lot more powergaming than you think we have Drack and I playing after all.
Also hi Drack, nice to have someone of similar powergaming caliber.
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"If you are after mere parlor tricks you will be sorely disappointed, for if I reach behind your ear, it will not be a nickel I pull out, BUT YOUR VERY SOUL!" The Venture Bros.
Hey there you may need a lot more powergaming than you think we have Drack and I playing after all.
Also hi Drack, nice to have someone of similar powergaming caliber.
Yeah... Shortly after getting on the boards I realized how bad I was at powergaming. In my irl game I'm the powergamer because the dm and I know d&d the best of our group. But holy cow do I have a lot to learn. I bow down to you two
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IC - Cerberus Silvershaper IC - Richard Shieldhand
IC - Sho'vothar
IC - Logan Ebonkill
Yeah... Shortly after getting on the boards I realized how bad I was at powergaming. In my irl game I'm the powergamer because the dm and I know d&d the best of our group. But holy cow do I have a lot to learn. I bow down to you two
Well I will be giving powergaming lessons to any allies.
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"If you are after mere parlor tricks you will be sorely disappointed, for if I reach behind your ear, it will not be a nickel I pull out, BUT YOUR VERY SOUL!" The Venture Bros.
Can I take you up on that offer? What's your opinion of what I have thrown together so far? What should I do for the last 44 levels?
One thing you need to know about these nation games is that its best to keep your build private.
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"If you are after mere parlor tricks you will be sorely disappointed, for if I reach behind your ear, it will not be a nickel I pull out, BUT YOUR VERY SOUL!" The Venture Bros.
One thing we do have to make public though:
getting a maximum or a minimum to roll.
I think there are 3-4 classes that I know of in this game that inflict one of those two and I would rather solve it now rather than later.
If (due to Arbiter50 for instance) I have a maximum of -2 on my roll. What happens if I also have a minimum roll?
I can't think of any number less than -2 and more than 50. Least of all any that are on a D20
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I have quit Giantitp. I may be back but not anytime soon
Sorry everyone
Ah, thanks for correcting me on that point. Remind me later to kill Egnil and his twin later, Egnil for his comment and his twin for not being the evil one. Though I suppose when I say "kill" I really mean give me a chance to savor a moment of invigoration... "pleasure" ... with some of my old toys... Oh knee splitter, how I've longed to take you from your hiding place as the teeth to my tiki mask and allow you to again renew that coat of red for authenticity...
What do you have against me not being the evil twin? At least I'm not doing what my step-brother Rignel has been doing to you while your sleeping...
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Edit: ah level 50... so just low enough that I don't get to use my favorite races from immortals... figures.
Tell me about it... Again, I curse you Time dragon for being so epic!
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Now I feel old, I only know the old powergamers on the forum (half of which have left), and not the new ones.
There, there old timer. We're almost across the street...
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Sadly, this turned out to be prophetic. I'm withdrawing interest, as I simply cannot commit the time to properly create a character like this.
Nooo! How dare you prove me right when I was trying to be sarcastic! For that you shall have to pay!!!
You've got to be kidding me... Your actually going to throw out two of your own homebrew that hasn't gotten nearly enough Peach to even be finished? Heck, I think I've done more for your one Bloodspilt then what my entire Wyrmfire Disciple's critique recieved across its two versions!
Vanity I guess...
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"Words ought to be chosen with greater care then either clothing or weaponry. For they can last much longer than the former, and cut deeper than the latter." -Doomraga's Revenge by T.A. Barron
Quick question:
Does DvR ranks gained from multiple sources stack, or is it like DR in that you take only the better value?
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Re: Amazing, HIGH epic Trisalt Nations.
Should only take about twenty minutes to pull all the pieces I have lying around here together for it, but it may be a bit high op for this... What kinda op are we thinking again? 
*wink wink nudge nudge*
(Plus I haven't made a character this creepy, powerful, clever, and twisted laitly. Just like old times I suppose. 
*remembers what one said earlier in thread*
Anywho are we allowing private homebrew submissions since it may spoil half my character if I public post-em?
