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Old 11-14-2012, 10:57 PM   Top  -  End  -  #271
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Awareness tests please for those in the office. Any additional investigative actions you'd like to take would come in nicely here
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:14 AM   Top  -  End  -  #272
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It bugs me how far up Adept you need to be to take Medicae. Scum can take Medicae and tech-use before adepts can.

(I'm also annoyed i need 6000xp or special dispensation to be an assassin who can lie, but never mind.)

Also is Kerberos new to the group or has he worked with us before? Will Gideon recognise him?
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:47 AM   Top  -  End  -  #273
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I was assuming he was new to the group, but had been briefed on your own specific language before joining you. He did, however, show up before everyone went into the Red Circus, unless I'm wrong, so Gideon should recognise him from then.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:21 AM   Top  -  End  -  #274
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I was just feeling guilty that I hadn't done an introduction, is all.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:26 AM   Top  -  End  -  #275
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I wasn't sure if you were headed to the office or to the cage, Destro. So, I left it open ended.

Swordfish, please feel free to expand or redo entirely the safe cracking bit and I'll amend my post. That goes for anyone with a particular part they'd truly like to make their own. The same goes for integrating the Aria's personal cogitator into the investigation.

Also, I left Marcus out to reply to Septimus. Please feel free to include him in any of the posted areas.

*There is a bit more information to be had from the ledgers that I will add when the matter of the ledger discrepancies is guessed at correctly (easy-peasy). When that is done, this other tidbit of info will become more more relevant. I am looking for the obvious answer plus the 'how'. XP rewards as incentive.

*This can be done in OOC or IC/ between characters or players etc.

Also, none of you knows what a Mortressian Prowler looks like.

Lastly, who is travelling with the Arbites and who is headed back to the Valkyrie and/or searching for a Base of Operations/Vehicle?

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Old 11-17-2012, 04:39 AM   Top  -  End  -  #276
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Okay, is my "The beasts are gone because longshadow's been taking them off" theory any good at all? I figure getting them through the sewers, then returning to the outside of the sewers to let them out, plus getting them back, plus any training/corruption needed could work out the times. Perhaps the prowler was injured on an operation?

Alternatively, this is the sort of thing we can work our way through logically. Everyone agree with me that it's most likely that these beasts are off the record because they're not actually there?

Also, i keep mentioning Gideon used to be a hunter: It's becoming painfully obvious i should have taken some skills to back this up. Nobody ever really expects to use Wrangling or Scholastic Lore (Beasts), do they?

Also, what time is it in-game?
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:03 AM   Top  -  End  -  #277
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Unless anyone objects, Shryke intends to stick with the Arbites to ensure the beasts reach the Tricorn safely (hence why he's offering to carry anything that needs taking to the Tricorn). Once he's done there he'll be looking to rejoin the group.

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I think we can all agree that for the good of the people, these funds need to be confiscated and spent on some kind of hovering, skull-like device.

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Okay, is my "The beasts are gone because longshadow's been taking them off" theory any good at all? I figure getting them through the sewers, then returning to the outside of the sewers to let them out, plus getting them back, plus any training/corruption needed could work out the times. Perhaps the prowler was injured on an operation?
I don't have an alternate hypothesis, but one question comes to mind if this is the case - Longshadow was keeping the beasties he used to kill Herstromm here, in the secret cage. If he was using new and different animals each time, then
A) why aren't there secret cages for those too
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B) why did he go to the bother of preserving these three in particular?

EDIT: Thinking about it a bit more, there are a couple of more mundane possibilities:

1. Ingron is just cooking the books to cover for the fact that he's got his hand in the till.
2. The animals are being sold on to a third party without the owner's knowledge.

I don't think it's too much use second-guessing the answer, though. We have Ingron; let's just hit him with a lead pipe until he tells us.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:07 AM   Top  -  End  -  #278
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I admit i only skim-read your spoilers, but is it possible that the broscoraptors were merely the last to arrive? Or that Longshadow was using less corrupted animals?

I need to double-check dates.

In addition, if skullsy is becoming a thing, can i request building a Picter into it, for scouting use?

I'm also totally down for spending this money on a servo-skull actually. (We'll all get a benefit, right?) Otherwise, accomodation and transport.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:24 AM   Top  -  End  -  #279
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I admit i only skim-read your spoilers, but is it possible that the broscoraptors were merely the last to arrive? Or that Longshadow was using less corrupted animals?
We found the two broscoraptors + the one lion-looking thing that killed Herstromm in a cage hidden under a disguised trapdoor. As far as I understand there were no other cages down there. Unless we missed something it seems likely to me that they were the only three beasties being kept under wraps.

As I said in my edit, I don't know what's going on here, but I bet Ingron does.

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Hope it's OK to bring this into the OOC thread, Riddick - I figure if I'm going to persuade people to stump up the cash for this they'd better have some input!
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:30 AM   Top  -  End  -  #280
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Remind me how servo-skulls are operated. Are they AI-like, or will we be reliant on Shryke with a remote control? My vote is for Auger, because a skull bristling with sensors would be a handy scouting tool. (If we're talking scouting, we might want something a little more subtle, though.)

And yeah, lets get to work on Ingron.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:32 AM   Top  -  End  -  #281
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They respond to simple voice commands from their master, and they have pre-programmed routines that they can follow (e.g. guard this place, search and destroy). So not a remote-control helicopter but not a full AI either. That'd be tech-heresy, after all.

It's all in the Inquisitor's Handbook, p.144.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:34 AM   Top  -  End  -  #282
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We found the two broscoraptors + the one lion-looking thing that killed Herstromm in a cage hidden under a disguised trapdoor. As far as I understand there were no other cages down there. Unless we missed something it seems likely to me that they were the only three beasties being kept under wraps.
I'm betting that Lion thing is the Mortressian Prowler, myself.

As for Skullsy, you already know my opinions on that. All systems go! If we've got enough money from looting the safe, I think we should go for the auger skull, but we need money for guns to stick in it, too.

hm.

Oh, also. Kerberos is pre-occupied right now, but someone should probably go ahead and loot the stands, see if anyone dropped anything valuable.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #283
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I'd say it's in the night/late evening now. If I recall correctly, everyone flew in and went for the Cathedral some time in the after noon, marched through the duct-maze, and moved on to this episode.

As for discussing the servo-skull here, go for it! I'm all about player input and interaction OOC.

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I am trying to make use of everyone's skills and by that token, I suppose it shows gaps in areas, as situational as they are.

On that note, allow me to make use of one acolyte's admirable spread of knowledge based skills: Aria, give me a Scholastic Lore (Legend) test at -10.

*The answer I seek was mostly pieced together through two different partial theories above. Please note the existence of other Red Circuses into your hypotheses. Almost got it!
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:22 PM   Top  -  End  -  #284
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The red circuses are shuffling animals between them, to make it look as if they have more.

(He said, with the total certainty of a man putting forward a theory he is entirely devoid of evidence for.)

Each circus has, say, ten Broscoraptors and one Prowler on its books. But the games don't need all those animals, not every day, so they sell all but ten broscoraptors and one prowler, and shuffle them from circus to circus depending on what's on the bill.

That explains the death of the prowler- it got killed in the arena. I bet if we checked the books of the other circuses, we'd see a few of them have marked down a dead prowler recently.

(He continued to assert, as if he actually knew.)

As for how: The sewers? Perhaps that's what the hidden cage is originally for, storing any animals that should be elsewhere. And why: Big cash influx from selling on/never buying the animals, constant minor inflow from not feeding them.

If this is right, let me know and i'll put it forward in character.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:36 PM   Top  -  End  -  #285
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Love the effort, but Colder (in the undying game of 'Am I getting warmer or colder?).

You're on the right track, however, and your first eight words comprises part of the 'How'.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:11 PM   Top  -  End  -  #286
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Perhaps some of the Broscoraptors have been eating less because they've been supplementing their diet with tasty, tasty Imperial Servants.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #287
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It seems that due to late developments in my schedule and mood, I'm losing track of time and games more often than usual (Destro is well aware of it, having suffered by my absent-mindedness repeatedly, and will probably have set his poke-stick on overwatch to me just to be safe Sorry again old friend.).

Now, if I'm following our course well, we're searching Ingron's office, Kerberos is talking to the young worker (and recruiting him as well, good job on that LCP and Destro ) and Septimus is asking for the parchment I had with me, to take it to Tricorn for analysis.

Ingron's interrogation is something that I'd like to actively participate/handle mysef if possible, but first he needs to recover from his considerable wounds, since I wouldn't want to kill him before getting him to reveal useful information. And after that we have the auction to attend as well.

That said, I should probably put here some relevant rolls, on the investigation of the premises and see how it goes.


1. Awareness test. Utilising my Auspex to enhance it.

(1d100)[1] vs 70 (Per + Auspex bonus + Skill at [+10])

2. Tech-Use test, if applicable, to utilise my Auspex, in order to spot things not normally detectable to human senses alone.

(1d100)[46] vs 60 (Int + Foresight bonus + Combi-tool bonus)

3. Search test, if applicable, to literally comb the area, for any useful clue, piece of evidence, overlooked detail etc.

(1d100)[7] vs 80 (Int + Lengthy Searches bonus + Skill at [+10])

4. Common Lore (Underworld) test if applicable, to see if any of the practises already observed in Red Circus or the "tampered" ledgers etc of Ingron could be connected with general practises of the criminal elements of Imperium's society, if there are any other organizations that act accordingly or control such establishments and any other relevant or useful info on that field.

(1d100)[43] vs 50 (Int + Foresight bonus)
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:04 PM   Top  -  End  -  #288
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So animals are being moved between the circuses. To cover something up? To cover up some other animals being brought in? "To cover up a lack of animals" isn't it.

Hmm.

The red circuses are being used as temporary storage for the animals? Re-reading it indicates that the animals only just arrived. So a circus is used to store the animals while they aren't killing, and Ingron and Scoritza's job is to cover it up by shuffling other things around.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:33 PM   Top  -  End  -  #289
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Love the effort, but Colder (in the undying game of 'Am I getting warmer or colder?).

You're on the right track, however, and your first eight words comprises part of the 'How'.
nooooo don't give us OOC clues

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Septimus is asking for the parchment I had with me, to take it to Tricorn for analysis.
Yep. Just waiting on an answer to that before I respond to Kerberos, to avoid getting events out of order.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:53 PM   Top  -  End  -  #290
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^ Good timing. I was just about to give another ;) Very well!

Below is Marcus' test results that will further the cause: (Don't read, LCP!)

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Old 11-18-2012, 12:38 PM   Top  -  End  -  #291
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Buggered the roller not once, but twice! Attempt 3 >_<

ScholLore -10 testy
(1d100)[39](39) vs 53Int -10 = 43 (+10 if my cog is relivent, but i assume not)
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Buggered the roller not once, but twice! Attempt 3 >_<

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Calimos, my friend, I think Septimus is awaiting Marcus' response

Past that, I'd like to move forward IC if no further conjectures are forthcoming concerning the puzzle at hand. I'm not rushing however, so please feel free to conclude what you like and let me know what your character is doing when vacating the scene does take place.

Note: I will be in town through Thanksgiving but will be leaving for a few days come the end of the week, 23-28. Expect much slower posts during that time, please.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:52 PM   Top  -  End  -  #293
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Is starving the creatures part of training/corrupting them, perhaps?
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:56 PM   Top  -  End  -  #294
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I would imagine the most likely cause for the under-ordering of feed is just that these three (or more) have been filling up on a diet of murder victims.

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Shryke is good to go. For those in the office, though, I'd say make sure you find out where the other Red Circuses are based (and how many of them there are), if that information isn't already in the ledger. We have no guarantee that Longshadow used these three creatures for any of the murders before Herstromm's; for all we know there's a Secret Cage Room at every venue. In a way, that'd be rather good, since we'd then have N Ingrons to question instead of just 1.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:51 AM   Top  -  End  -  #295
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Where will we meet up? Back at the tricorn? Can the tricorn accommodate us for a night?
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If our comm-beads have decent range, perhaps you guys could scout out a hideout while Kerberos and Shryke make their deliveries? Then you could just tell us where to find you.

Not sure if I'm repeating myself here (apologies if I am, my memory's terrible) but I think we can probably find accommodation we won't have to pay for if we go looking in abandoned/underhive sections of the Southlows. Regular rent payments would be a major drain on our resources, and landlords might object to our "upgrading" his property with any security measures we felt were necessary.

Plus, there might be gangs down there. That would be cool, and also basically a free stockpile of guns/terrified lackeys if we plan out a proper surprise attack . I'm not saying we have to start building a private army now that we've got one recruit, I'm just saying it'd be nice.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:49 AM   Top  -  End  -  #297
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Alright then. After this is over, Gideon will go and do that.

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Old 11-19-2012, 06:50 PM   Top  -  End  -  #298
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Alright, Septimus & Kerberos are riding with the cage as I understand it and the rest are scouting for a hideout. Is that correct?

I shall update as such on the morrow. I'm running on 36 hours of energy drink fumes...

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That seems about right, yes.

What are other people spending their XP on? I'm buying Decieve, Shryke is getting Medicae and Trade (Skull-hollower)... Anyone else?
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:10 PM   Top  -  End  -  #300
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I bought a ballistic skill advance, and a sound constitution.
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