Lords of Creation: Dischord of Harmony OOC

[Mynxae]

Originally Posted by Xondoure

Just waiting on the godesses to step through or decline then.

Joika has now gone through, and awaits her sisters and child on the other side.

[Darklady2831]

I love the water lily bit Perhaps each of the Sisters should have a flower associated with them? Or not, I'm just throwing out ideas... Don't hurt me

[Mynxae]

Originally Posted by Darklord2831

I love the water lily bit Perhaps each of the Sisters should have a flower associated with them? Or not, I'm just throwing out ideas... Don't hurt me

Sounds pretty awesome to me. Water Lily really suits Joika so that's mainly why I did it.

EDIT: Updated the table on the second post to include Barrabus and Arrus, and also any abilities people have gotten so far.

[Xondoure]

Should i start or wait for introductions?

[Darklady2831]

Originally Posted by Xondoure

Should i start or wait for introductions?

Well, Melaira is waiting for Kansheri to either decline, or step through, with Ceryna in her arms. And then Melaira is going to come in and attend.

[Elricaltovilla]

Finally made it to the IC thread. Game took a while tonight, we got distracted by football/baseball/Halloween...

Who wants to get their butts handed to them first?

[Mynxae]

Originally Posted by Elricaltovilla

Finally made it to the IC thread. Game took a while tonight, we got distracted by football/baseball/Halloween...

Who wants to get their butts handed to them first?

Go for the big sun guy, aka Venasaur. Come on, I swear he'll use Solar Beam at some stage!

[Darklady2831]

Originally Posted by Mynxae

Go for the big sun guy, aka Venasaur. Come on, I swear he'll use Solar Beam at some stage!

Oh, oh god, my sides... I laughed so hard, considering I just referenced pokemon and fire type attacks in the recruitment thread.

[Mynxae]

Originally Posted by Darklord2831

Oh, oh god, my sides... I laughed so hard, considering I just referenced pokemon and fire type attacks in the recruitment thread.

This made me laugh probably as much as you just did.

[Darklady2831]

@L_A and Mods
Forge land edits 8 squares, but... hmm, in the case of the underdark... I don't know, other mods, opinions?

[Mynxae]

Originally Posted by Darklord2831

@L_A and Mods
Forge land edits 8 squares, but... hmm, in the case of the underdark... I don't know, other mods, opinions?

Sounds like a reasonable thing to be larger than a normal Forge Land. I personally don't mind, as long as it doesn't end up being something OP later on because it is so large.

[Elricaltovilla]

Originally Posted by Darklord2831

@L_A and Mods
Forge land edits 8 squares, but... hmm, in the case of the underdark... I don't know, other mods, opinions?

Well 8 total squares should still be fine, but maybe they don't have to be contiguous? I assume that creating habitable living in the underdark takes roughly the same effort as creating a similar habitat on the surface.

[Darklady2831]

Originally Posted by Mynxae

Sounds like a reasonable thing to be larger than a normal Forge Land. I personally don't mind, as long as it doesn't end up being something OP later on because it is so large.

Yea... how about:
For the Underdark/Lowerdark
-Alter Land: 2 Squares
- Create Land: 6 Squares
-Forge Land: 12 Squares

EDIT:
I'm with Elric here, same number of squares, but they can be scattered if you want.

[Xondoure]

I'd allow it, as a new game bonus if nothing else.

[Elricaltovilla]

Other Mods:

A Monument for Approval:

Acalhatar, The Basalt Prison

An inactive volcano chimney rising thousands of feet above the ocean, this imposing sight is the single greatest prison in the world. Even gods have trouble escaping its cells.

As for the ability, anyone trapped within Acalhatar must overcome a very high roll in order to escape. For divine entities, they must either roll higher than Vetasz's defense roll to escape (no modifiers from relics) while mortals must overcome a roll of 1d10+(Vetasz's Divine Rank+3). Any god can spend 3 AP to bust someone out of the prison as well (including themselves).

[Mynxae]

Originally Posted by Elricaltovilla

Other Mods:

A Monument for Approval:

Acalhatar, The Basalt Prison

An inactive volcano chimney rising thousands of feet above the ocean, this imposing sight is the single greatest prison in the world. Even gods have trouble escaping its cells.

As for the ability, anyone trapped within Acalhatar must overcome a very high roll in order to escape. For divine entities, they must either roll higher than Vetasz's defense roll to escape (no modifiers from relics) while mortals must overcome a roll of 1d10+(Vetasz's Divine Rank+3). Any god can spend 3 AP to bust someone out of the prison as well (including themselves).

If it wasn't for the AP way out, I would've said no. But thankfully, you're a smart ET. Approved.

[Darklady2831]

Originally Posted by Mynxae

If it wasn't for the AP way out, I would've said no. But thankfully, you're a smart ET. Approved.

I'd say that a God can bust themselves or another Deity out for 3 AP, and a Mortal could be busted out for 1 AP (The difference between an Exalt action and a Praise action)

[Elricaltovilla]

Originally Posted by Darklord2831

I'd say that a God can bust themselves or another Deity out for 3 AP, and a Mortal could be busted out for 1 AP (The difference between an Exalt action and a Praise action)

but I want people to have to work to get their characters out...

And as always, I'm willing to work OOC with people for a great prison break story

[Darklady2831]

Originally Posted by Elricaltovilla

but I want people to have to work to get their characters out...

And as always, I'm willing to work OOC with people for a great prison break story

You know what. Your Monument in it's original form is Approved... I'm assuming that the "Master" of the Monument is the person the prison break roll is done against. (Because there's rules for taking over someone else's monument)

[Elricaltovilla]

Originally Posted by Darklord2831

You know what. Your Monument in it's original form is Approved... I'm assuming that the "Master" of the Monument is the person the prison break roll is done against. (Because there's rules for taking over someone else's monument)

Yes, the master being... well Vetasz. If you want to steal the monument you're more than welcome to fight me for it. Once I make it, of course.

[C'nor]

You know, for 2 AP you can use a Censure to kill the prisoner, and then a Praise to bring them back to life somewhere else, so no-one is ever actually going to spend the AP just to break a mortal free anyway, unless it costs less than that...

[Darklady2831]

Originally Posted by Elricaltovilla

Yes, the master being... well Vetasz. If you want to steal the monument you're more than welcome to fight me for it. Once I make it, of course.

Oh, I wasn't planning to take it, I was just saying, in the case that Vetasz is killed, loses the monument, or someone else Masters it, then they are the one the roll is done against.

[Elricaltovilla]

Originally Posted by C'nor

You know, for 2 AP you can use a Censure to kill the prisoner, and then a Praise to bring them back to life somewhere else, so no-one is ever actually going to spend the AP just to break a mortal free anyway, unless it costs less than that...

wait... can you elaborate on that please? Wouldn't it be 1 AP censure (kill) and then 2 AP praise (raise somewhere else)? so that's still 3 AP, and really convoluted.

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Elricaltovilla

wait... can you elaborate on that please? Wouldn't it be 1 AP censure (kill) and then 2 AP praise (raise somewhere else)? so that's still 3 AP, and really convoluted.

...So, it would still cost 3AP to break out... so yeah, the 'three ap to break 'em out' makes sense

[C'nor]

Originally Posted by Elricaltovilla

wait... can you elaborate on that please? Wouldn't it be 1 AP censure (kill) and then 2 AP praise (raise somewhere else)? so that's still 3 AP, and really convoluted.

Nope. You use a 1 AP Censure to kill them, but stipulate that this does not prevent you from raising them, essentially saying "This is free to reverse". Then you use a 1 AP Praise to bring them back wherever it is that you want them to be.

[Darklady2831]

Originally Posted by C'nor

Nope. You use a 1 AP Censure to kill them, but stipulate that this does not prevent you from raising them. Then you use a 1 AP Praise to bring them back wherever it is that you want them to be.

Well, thing is... if a Praise directly cancels out the affect of a Censure (Such as raising someone killed from the dead) then it'll cost 1 more AP than the Censure... The whole Curse War Mechanic...

[HalfTangible]

Originally Posted by Darklord2831

"Most definitely!"

Oh you and I are going to get along just fine...

[Elricaltovilla]

Originally Posted by C'nor

Nope. You use a 1 AP Censure to kill them, but stipulate that this does not prevent you from raising them, essentially saying "This is free to reverse". Then you use a 1 AP Praise to bring them back wherever it is that you want them to be.

reversing a censure/praise or any other level is not free. That's built into the rules. Any time you reverse a censure/praise it increases by 1 AP.

[Novaix]

Originally Posted by Darklord2831

Well, thing is... if a Praise directly cancels out the affect of a Censure (Such as raising someone killed from the dead) then it'll cost 1 more AP than the Censure... The whole Curse War Mechanic...

I didn't think that would apply to your own actions? Also, it's not unreasonable that the jail has some magical people-in-here-don't-die-until-they're-released thing, and all.

[C'nor]

Originally Posted by Darklord2831

Well, thing is... if a Praise directly cancels out the affect of a Censure (Such as raising someone killed from the dead) then it'll cost 1 more AP than the Censure... The whole Curse War Mechanic...

However, if you say that this is just to kill them, and does not prevent their soul from being returned, that would, effectively, be declaring that you were willing to allow people to reverse that without spending additional AP, yes?