Virtuous? She just let a sleaze lick her hand and gave him an easier time of it.
True but the nature of her virtue and chastity cannot be taken (not without serious role-playing and time anyway or magic powers).
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I must say, I was not expecting this. You may have corrupted the poor Brother!
I feel it fits quite well with the flaws that will develop once she is turned.
It also providing a solid method of appealing to her host and removing a thorn from his side by making the brother doubt himself, and thereby doubt his certainty of his lord's guilt, which may also allow the monk to get on with his life and stop risking it on this foolishness.
Funnily enough had proof of wrongdoing outside of simply his own poor luck been available, Isabella may have listened and heeded.
I apologize for the delay. I hadn't really anticipated that she'd seduce the priest, which meant I really had to work through how Andrei would react to that before I could post properly. Will do so shortly.
True, but the priest could at least have said disappearances, other feasts occurring etc, things she could have asked around about.
Instead she got I don't like a powerful noble and when I started saying he was Satan no one listened, and he employs ill mannered people that get annoyed when I tell a roomful of guests that he is satan.
This was about a least convincing as he could be.
Also finally Isabella's master plan comes together, she is on a working holiday people and connections are important and removing an annoyance that you have been unable to fully deal with is as good an introduction as any.
Will it work (I hope so) I will have to wait and see if there are any unexpected repercussions from this.
Clever plan dancrilis, and it was half successful. But Clement is a fanatic. Faced with his own hypocrisy, he chooses to believe he was bewitched by the foul serpent woman in front of him.
Still, the rest of your plan worked well, so hopefully things turn out all right for Isabella. Not like Clement has a reason to carry a vendetta against her now.
Ah well, it at least proved to her that he was a simple hypocrite - sure she enticed him - but she had said and done nothing overt to force the issue, his wants had come from him.
I quite liked that scene (and hope those who read it did to - and didn't feel it was overly creepy) thanks for allowing it despite it maybe holding up the story, it helped me get Isabella a bit firmer in my head for who she was and were her mortal life would have taken her.
I will write up a post now to catch up with the story in full.
@The_Shaman: Luca was trying to strike up a conversation with Benghi. If you don't feel like talking, that's cool, but just so you know that the option is there.
Oh, I didn't see that, sorry . I've added my response in a spoiler, if you don't mind having a rather schizophrenic flashback of a conversation .
Also, seriously, did that monk need an identity crisis on top of everything else?
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Considering I think that Clement looks something like this:
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Spoilered for space, I think the picture looks a bit to well fed, I was seeing him more as the bugged eyed and crazy type who needed someone to talk to who would listen to him.
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Also, seriously, did that monk need an identity crisis on top of everything else?
Yes he did, his life is taking him to a dark and lonely place and Isabella only wanted to help him a the good Christian that she is, that he took her aid in the wrong manner and treated her kindness as romantic affection only
shows how far he has fallen from the holy ideals he seems to claim to cling too.
Or at least that is her story and she is sticking to it (for now at least), he would undoubtedly have a different biased account, but both the innkeeper and the beggar lady say what they say after she demonstrated nothing but kindness and grace all night, so who would you trust?
I am moving house later and I don't know if I will have assess to the internet for a while (I hope to but I might not), so there may be a break in posting.
Spoilered for space, I think the picture looks a bit to well fed, I was seeing him more as the bugged eyed and crazy type who needed someone to talk to who would listen to him.
He's not crazy though, just outspoken. Calling a vampire the devil isn't all that unreasonable. Heck, Bram Stoker's Dracula attended a black magic school run by Satanand was claimed by him to be transformed into an undead terror. Definitely with you on the fatness, though. Clement's an ascetic, so gluttony is unlikely from him. I see him as looking a bit more like this (when not screaming his head off):
Fat Clement looks a bit too happy for my eyes. I picture him almost always scowling. There is a picture of him included in the book, I'll see if I can find a copy online. Basically it's a man with wild white hair who scowls. I prefer your interpretations.
@Dancrilis, take the time you need to get settled in. No rush.
@Shaman, that is tough. I'll say Perception+ Academics? If you can think of a better combination I'd certainly consider it though.
I hadn't adjusted my points very clearly around the DA:V skills, and this is something I might imagine Benghi noticing... Academia is more "formalized" knowledge imo, maybe alertness or investigation? Hearth wisdom is also intentionally broad, so maybe it might apply.
If this was modern, streetwise might also apply btw - it mentions being useful for understanding slang and being able to understand accent would likely be useful in ethnic neighborhoods.
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Personally on the accents thing I would say etiquette it mentions speech under the description, and would require formal knowledge like any of the knowledges do to attempt (baring hearth wisdom).
But as with a lot of abilities there can be multiple contenders.
I found the book online. I didn't read anything, just scrolled until I saw the picture of Brother Clement.
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Sexy, eh dancrilis?
Also, I think the use of Appearance + Etiquette is a little odd. If she's trying to win them over with her looks, etiquette doesn't come into the equation at all. If she's using her words (which she is), then it should be Charisma + Etiquette. Either way, 5d10 max. Appearance would color their first impression of her, probably make them more likely to give her the benefit of the doubt, but it's not a trait you can just shoe-horn into every roll of the dice.
Ah she is a professional in a customer service industry, and it was more about the mental excitement for her to be honest, could she do it ... and yes she could ... could she turn it to her benefit ... who knows yet.
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Also, I think the use of Appearance + Etiquette is a little odd.
I wasn't too sure where to fit it in, but effectively the writing of appearance for the dark ages book is that it covers implicit attitudes, social cues of body movement, poise and many other less obvious features, and she is despite the situation attempting to be someone that would be attractive to have as a guest, much more the attempt to be personally dominant or subtle which could be charisma or manipulation (also the reason that I was unsure of enchanting voice would apply).
For etiquette then saw that bit about covering speech, movement, dress furnishing and the like, and had previously written about her carefully chosen clothing to highlight that.
I would agree that shoehorning abilities/attributes into areas where they are not related (or where there is a much more obvious choice) is annoying, but I don't feel that this was the case here.
On the max social pool, that is for vampire the masquerade not the dark ages.
Unfortunately I do not have the V20 book to be sure about the wording of items in it. (and while it could be used it has not been in this game to date baring other characters have appearances above human ability at this stage).
Dark Seeker if you feel that this is an inappropriate use of appearance by me then I have no issue with you discounting the dice from end to make up the difference.
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