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Old 10-27-2012, 01:21 AM   Top  -  End  -  #121
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Anyway if it's still available I say.

1. She Who Rules the Black Wolf Pack
Currently unavailable. Great One doesn't let you go into any other settings; you'd have to cut back to Follower for that.
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:28 AM   Top  -  End  -  #122
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Currently unavailable. Great One doesn't let you go into any other settings; you'd have to cut back to Follower for that.
In that case, just Call it Quits.
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Old 10-27-2012, 05:03 AM   Top  -  End  -  #123
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A missing hand? Pah!

Great one.
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More lifepaths aren't really so much unweildy. They just generate an extra number to add into the pool.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:00 AM   Top  -  End  -  #124
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Why quit when you're ahead? are you chicken?!?!

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Yeah, sorry I didn't clear that out better. The main reason I encouraged people to keep taking new lifepaths was that, well, a lifepath limit is a limit, and orcs take more than four lifepaths to really shine.
That's okay, I understand.
I have to add though that the die of fate videos are totally awesome.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:01 AM   Top  -  End  -  #125
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I don't know what Servant of the Gate is, but it sounds cool, so

Servant of the Gate

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The Atlas is also goofy but it has that whole "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" menacing smile thing going for it. The guy who drew that one up was obviously taken to the Nutcracker when he was a child... and he was screaming in terror the entire time.
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:31 AM   Top  -  End  -  #126
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I don't know what Servant of the Gate is, but it sounds cool, so

Servant of the Gate

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Servant of the Gate effectively involves hard labor.

Also, doubling up on Great One....oh man. Lifepaths diminish in value after the second time you take them, but taking it a mere twice is gonna get us a filthy rich (or connected) orc. With lots of stat boosts. That's quite the interesting option. (Incidentally, taking it a third time is still better than a lot of orc lifepaths. It's a veritable jackpot in many ways.)
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:47 AM   Top  -  End  -  #127
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Servant of the Gate effectively involves hard labor.

Also, doubling up on Great One....oh man. Lifepaths diminish in value after the second time you take them, but taking it a mere twice is gonna get us a filthy rich (or connected) orc. With lots of stat boosts. That's quite the interesting option. (Incidentally, taking it a third time is still better than a lot of orc lifepaths. It's a veritable jackpot in many ways.)
Oh. Never mind. Changing my vote, then, to

Great One II

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Old 10-27-2012, 12:50 PM   Top  -  End  -  #128
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Yeah, I'm changing my vote too.

Great One II

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Old 10-28-2012, 01:33 AM   Top  -  End  -  #129
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Great One II it is! Now let's get to that Die of Fate roll...

Behold the tempting of FATE!!!! Remember, next Die of Fate puts an entire limb at risk...
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Anyhow, same options as before. You can re-take Follower, go into Servant of the Gate, or repeat Great One (for a diminished return this time). Or call it quits.
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:36 AM   Top  -  End  -  #130
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Go big or go home.

Great One III

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After this though I think we are good on Life Paths.
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:17 AM   Top  -  End  -  #131
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What are we risking to lose this time? At the moment, my vote stands for

1. Great One III
2. Call it Quits

We've already gone this far. Why not get some more connections?
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:19 AM   Top  -  End  -  #132
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Yeah, lets take 1 more shot.

Great One III
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But after this, we're done.
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:13 PM   Top  -  End  -  #133
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Great One v3.0
Call it Quits

What else were you expecting?
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Old 10-28-2012, 03:12 PM   Top  -  End  -  #134
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What are we risking to lose this time?
An entire limb.
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Old 10-28-2012, 03:38 PM   Top  -  End  -  #135
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An entire limb.
What are the odds that our Mekboyz will be able to fashion us a steam-powered clockpunk arm to replace our lost one?

That's probably, like, a Circles check, right?
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:54 PM   Top  -  End  -  #136
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An entire limb.
Hmm... a leg would be annoying, but I think I'll keep my vote. She's gotta have something to identify her after all this status increase.
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Old 10-28-2012, 06:02 PM   Top  -  End  -  #137
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Hmm... a leg would be annoying, but I think I'll keep my vote. She's gotta have something to identify her after all this status increase.
Missing an arm. In its place there is a heavy chain connecting to the collar of a nasty, lobotomized troll pup called "Right Hand".
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Old 10-28-2012, 06:42 PM   Top  -  End  -  #138
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What are the odds that our Mekboyz will be able to fashion us a steam-powered clockpunk arm to replace our lost one?

That's probably, like, a Circles check, right?
XD

Yeah.....Circles Ob 10?
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Old 10-28-2012, 07:06 PM   Top  -  End  -  #139
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Missing an arm. In its place there is a heavy chain connecting to the collar of a nasty, lobotomized troll pup called "Right Hand".
... If there is any possible way at all of buying this, it should happen. That's simply wonderful.
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Old 10-28-2012, 09:29 PM   Top  -  End  -  #140
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... If there is any possible way at all of buying this, it should happen. That's simply wonderful.
I'm trying to figure it. It'd certainly be possible to put a resources price on it. What's more tricky is giving our orc the skills needed to control the troll. Otherwise, she's in for a bad time... (knowing how to speak Troll is actually outside of the confines of her lifepaths; only the Troll Lord orcs have acquired that skillset, because they work day in and day out with trolls)
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Old 10-28-2012, 09:58 PM   Top  -  End  -  #141
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I'm trying to figure it. It'd certainly be possible to put a resources price on it. What's more tricky is giving our orc the skills needed to control the troll. Otherwise, she's in for a bad time... (knowing how to speak Troll is actually outside of the confines of her lifepaths; only the Troll Lord orcs have acquired that skillset, because they work day in and day out with trolls)
What we need is a relationship with a Troll Lord, then, in addition to a lobotomized Troll named 'My Right Hand'. We will call him "Brain", and he will sit on our shoulders.

Then, we may proceed with the astoundingly efficient mechanism of yelling "Brain! Tell 'My Right Hand' to punch that guy!"

I have no idea how this would interact with the fighting mechanics, but your enemies should probably have to check for hesitation, just from sheer confusion.
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What we need is a relationship with a Troll Lord, then, in addition to a lobotomized Troll named 'My Right Hand'. We will call him "Brain", and he will sit on our shoulders.

Then, we may proceed with the astoundingly efficient mechanism of yelling "Brain! Tell 'My Right Hand' to punch that guy!"

I have no idea how this would interact with the fighting mechanics, but your enemies should probably have to check for hesitation, just from sheer confusion.
I can't stop laughing.
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Why do I have a feeling that a three-times Great One just has enough resources to make a situation like that real?
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Old 10-29-2012, 05:37 AM   Top  -  End  -  #144
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IIRC, it is suggested that sidekicks are burned up as lesser characters with fewer lifepaths. My Right Hand could perhaps take Vile Speech or something like that. Alternately, I guess the chain could be enchanted to provide the Troll Speech trait.
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I actually had to think about this one for a while, but then I realised that we are basically taking more risk for less gain, what's not to like about that?

1. Great One

2. Quit
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:02 AM   Top  -  End  -  #146
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IIRC, it is suggested that sidekicks are burned up as lesser characters with fewer lifepaths. My Right Hand could perhaps take Vile Speech or something like that. Alternately, I guess the chain could be enchanted to provide the Troll Speech trait.
That is an excellent solution, actually. If anyone has the Monster Burner, could you look into that? Just in case people want to sink resources into that route, that is.
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I like your attitude.

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Old 10-29-2012, 10:21 AM   Top  -  End  -  #147
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That is an excellent solution, actually. If anyone has the Monster Burner, could you look into that? Just in case people want to sink resources into that route, that is.
I had a player use that rule in a game I was running. Found it to be WAY powerful.
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I'm going to vote
1: Great One
2: Cattle Slave
3: Call it Quits


Because it's not a risk, it's a class feature.

Edit: +50 resources for Great One, Halved each time it's taken, we're up to +87 Resources with Great one III, and if we go Great one IV we get 93. Don't know if +6 is a big deal, as have never read the book :/

Is 87+Other lifepath bonuses to Resources>100? If no, is 93+same>100?

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Old 10-29-2012, 05:26 PM   Top  -  End  -  #149
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I like your attitude.

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If you do something you should do it right, half a legend is no legend I say.

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I had a player use that rule in a game I was running. Found it to be WAY powerful.
Hate to bring D&D into this, but yea sounds a lot like leadership abuse.
I suppose you can not abuse the rule if you try, but especially a character like this with plenty of resources to spend can probably buy a pretty powerful companion.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:06 AM   Top  -  End  -  #150
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Hate to bring D&D into this, but yea sounds a lot like leadership abuse.
I suppose you can not abuse the rule if you try, but especially a character like this with plenty of resources to spend can probably buy a pretty powerful companion.
Just speculating here, but I think it's more "powerful" than OP. I suspect. Gaining massive amounts of followers is not easy to do.

('course, this is also the game which reminds the GM and players to keep a check on munchkins. Possibly by applying blunt force with the rulebook. )

Sounds cool to me, though, especially since it's not a regular game (where a player controlling two characters could get difficult to manage). So, we'll have that as an explicit option on the table when it comes time to purchase stuff.
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