Perhaps an explicit new ruling, rather than using the old rule that's exploited to the point glitchiness, would clear up this confusion every single player seems to have. I feel it goes against the spirit of the thing anyway, so we might as well make a new system. I'll writ eit up after lunch if you want.
I just realised Amon has proficiency in cleavers and knives. I'm gonna head into the Yamana Estate and swat up like a god damn Higurashi character.
Investigate roll to see how the front door was opened when Amon apparently entered the Yamana estate after blakcing out. (1d20+5)[6] If it was masterfully picked, she did it. If not, someone else fumbled at it. If it was opened by a key, there's only a 50-50 chance it was Amon since she usually forgets her keys. If the front door wasn't opened, then she probably came through the window again.
Edit: ... I guess the truth will forever remain shrouded
Oh, I have an idea. Since Yousuke's too tired to do anything intensive, how about we all do a quick Halloween-themed mission that we could bash out in a week?
Yeah, I know you won't take that suggestion. Still though, I wouldn't mind doing some D-rank (or by Soragakure standards E-rank) mission where we use our ninja skills to man a haunted house attraction
Oh, I have an idea. Since Yousuke's too tired to do anything intensive, how about we all do a quick Halloween-themed mission that we could bash out in a week?
Yeah, I know you won't take that suggestion. Still though, I wouldn't mind doing some D-rank (or by Soragakure standards E-rank) mission where we use our ninja skills to man a haunted house attraction
Yeah, I know you wouldn't half-decide on a mission. Ah, it's fine, we'll pick up the slack for Yousuke - I'll ask Cybele to pitch in more.
And I didn't mean celebrating the actual in-universe halloween. More something like a scary situation that happens to coincide with the OOC Halloween. Hell, who's to say Halloween even takes place in the...
...Wait. OOH, question. What holidays ARE there in this world?
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It kind of feels like we're walkiing into an exam without studying this mission. There's a sense of foregone failure before we even know what it is, at least for me
Does this include holidays largely celebrated in Japan that are more recent imports from other cultures? Like, Christmas is celebrated by a lot of Japanese (though it seems to be more like a couple's holiday than anything else) and I do hear trick or treating at Halloween, so are those celebrated or is it just the old-style festivals that existed, like, a hundred years ago?
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I just realised that in order to create a cell phone with a decent range, I'll need a high place to bounce the signal. Otherwise, my early model won't be effctive outside the land of rivers unless I also invent satellite dishes and the devices necessary for space travel (breaking the escape velocity and what have you) to get the satellite up there. Maybe if Amon retires from the ninja business, that's what she'll go on to do with her life - dedicate her family's fortune to revolutionising the world's technology until she surpasses even modern day technology. It would also increase people's livelihoods and resolve a lot of conflicts by pure force of providence. ...If Amon really wanted to be a hero (and wasn't still on the way to some mental recovery), she'd retire right now from ninja-ness before she dies randomly, and hope that within a few generations there will be less call for ninja to be used for evil. Hmm.... I'll get back to you on that
Technically she could do all that WHILE being a ninja. It would just take more focus and be riskier
Well, sorry for asking. Though in the Golden Week question i was wondering if it applied to Ninja School so... never mind, I don't want to be bold-texted again
I still wonder if Xmas qualifies as a standard japanese holiday though. It is largely celebrated but it wouldn't have been pre-WWII and what have you.
Well, sorry for asking. Though in the Golden Week question i was wondering if it applied to Ninja School so... never mind, I don't want to be bold-texted again
It applies to the Academy.
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I still wonder if Xmas qualifies as a standard japanese holiday though. It is largely celebrated but it wouldn't have been pre-WWII and what have you.
It is considered 1980 for all intents and purposes, and everything that affected Japan prior to that point can be considered canonical in the setting. Meaning yes, they have Ninja Christmas where the Sage of Six Presents brings toys to all good girls and boys. Or brings them coal, if they're bad.
...I kind of wish we were near the ninja christmas right now. I wouldn't mind doing a bit where Amon goes Xmas shopping for everyone and dresses up like the Sage of Six Paths to deliver presents to all the good girls and boys at ninja academy, saving the bets gift for little Aiko. Now THAT would be an awesome mission. Amon wouldn't need it to be a mission even - she would just DO it for the hell of it, and go Ninja Carolling with Aiko. Good times.
If it's Ninja Christmas (ninja-mas?), do the Yamanas celebrate it even though they aren't ninja? Did Poppa Yamana dress up like Old Father Xmas of teh Six paths for Aiko when SHE was a child?
Did anyone ever notice Yousuke is REALLY tall for his weight and age (and ethnicity)? The average full grown Japanese man is 5'7", only 4 inches over Yousuke. I guess maybe he's got early onset puberty
The clocks went back in Britain yesterday. Well, today. So the forum clock should be an hour ahead since I haven't changed it yet, but for some reason it's TWO hours
If it's Ninja Christmas (ninja-mas?), do the Yamanas celebrate it even though they aren't ninja? Did Poppa Yamana dress up like Old Father Xmas of teh Six paths for Aiko when SHE was a child?
Did anyone ever notice Yousuke is REALLY tall for his weight and age (and ethnicity)? The average full grown Japanese man is 5'7", only 4 inches over Yousuke. I guess maybe he's got early onset puberty
In anime/manga-verses, though, the average Japanese high schooler is, like, at least a solid six feet.
With 75% of that being the legs, of course.
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I meant 'for Amon when she was a child', silly me. Well, it's fun to pretend, so I choose to believe that happened. After this next mission, Amon dashing off to the vacation house the next day to confront them. Assuming they aren't back yet and Amon knows the way
Yeah, Clamp is pretty weird like that. Like they mostly make shojo stuff, but half their characters look like deformed monstrosities on the level of Bayonetta due to their leg length. Although it worked pretty well for some of the character designs in Code Geass; Lelouch's thin, bony physique and long limbs give the impresion of malnourishment, of a greater stature unfulfilled by circumstance, and with his long fingers, the clear look of a schemer who relies on others, a puppet master
It doesn't really work for designing believable bishonen though. Unless japanese girls are really in to freakishly tall dudes. In which case, my collection of scottish friends should do quite well in our voyage over there
It doesn't really work for designing believable bishonen though. Unless japanese girls are really in to freakishly tall dudes. In which case, my collection of scottish friends should do quite well in our voyage over there
Not freakishly tall, but tall is indeed a component of the bishonen formula, if I'm not mistaken.
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It doesn't really work for designing believable bishonen though. Unless japanese girls are really in to freakishly tall dudes. In which case, my collection of scottish friends should do quite well in our voyage over there
The hilarious part is that CLAMP is an all-female art team.
Well, while Bad's out doing work, I guess I'll FINALLY write this lab report.
By the way, ZN, are the simple melee weapons from d20 Modern still valid in this game? If so, I'd like to have the use of knives and cleavers - I don't have time to go utensil shopping, so could I use regular old kitchen knives from my house or would those be improvised weapons? Just so I have something to deliver poisons when I don't want to or can't animate Shanghai, you know? And using a quarterstaff to deliver injury poison just feels... WRONG, you know?
It just feels wrong that Simple Weapons Proficiency would only include 1 weapon that no one in universe has been seen to wield unless they also had other weapons. That's some throwback stuff right there.
I just figured since N20 was based on d20 modern and constantly refences material in that game (like, combat martial arts obviously isn't in the book itself but it's used a lot by the N20 game since it was already in d20 Modern and there's no reason for a repeat, same iwth basic combat rules) the 'unmentioned' weapons would also be included. Just because they're not in the table itself doesn't mena they're not there, just like power attack not being in the feat table doesn't mean the game doesn't include the power attack feat
I just want to use a cleaver in a game. Just once. In case I ever snap and need a Higurashi laugh, you know?
It just feels wrong that Simple Weapons Proficiency would only include 1 weapon that no one in universe has been seen to wield unless they also had other weapons. That's some throwback stuff right there.
Go read up on the Monkey King. Best quarterstaff wielder in fiction.
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I just want to use a cleaver in a game. Just once. In case I ever snap and need a Higurashi laugh, you know?
Play a character with better strength then? Or someone who could use a knife in such a way as to actually be a threat to non-ordinaries.
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Pfft, I'm not gonna use a cleaver in a straight up fight, don't be ridiculous. It's for when i sneak up on someone, of course, and need something jagged to deliver my poison. Amon is not and never will be the type to wade in with a sword or use a means of attack contingent on her own physical strength. But she is the type to effectively weild weapons.
...Mechanically I suppose carrying a quarterstaff would be optimal as my baackup poison deliverer. But that seems. Way. Too. Dumb. Come on, let me have a knife - bump the damage down to 1d3 or something, just I'm begging you. ANYTHING is better than using a means of attack not even particularly intended to break the skin as a means of delivering poisons that need to be injected. I know, I know, 'just don't carry a weapon then' but.... come on now. I would retrain for Nin Weapons Proficiency if I hadn't gotten knocked out and thus unable to use my remaining time for yesterday for such a task, but here we are. Hell, I'd have retrained Cautious for Heroic Surge instead of Nin Weapons Proficiency if I knew retraining that feat was even an option, just to avoid this situation entirely.
It's not like the use of knives would break teh game; the simple weapons in Modern are balanced against each other, including staves, well enough. I would be doing LESS damage with it than a staff. I just don't want my image to be tarnished by something QUITE that stupid.
OOH, I have one. What if I develop a hidden blade in my prosphetic foot?
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I actually have a copy of Journey to the West sitting on my (physical) bookshelf right now that needs reading. But I'm almost certain the Monkey King never delivered a dose of Nemuri with his magic staff of 'extension', did he?
Pfft, I'm not gonna use a cleaver in a straight up fight, don't be ridiculous.
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Yakyakyak I want a weapon.
If you aren't gonna fight with it, then why are you concerned about having a weapon?
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OOH, I have one. What if I develop a hidden blade in my prosphetic foot?
Do you have exotic weapon prof? No? Still take non-proficiency penalties.
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I actually have a copy of Journey to the West sitting on my (physical) bookshelf right now that needs reading. But I'm almost certain the Monkey King never delivered a dose of Nemuri with his magic staff of 'extension', did he?
No, because using poison is beneath him. Regardless, your statement was: "It just feels wrong that Simple Weapons Proficiency would only include 1 weapon that no one in universe has been seen to wield unless they also had other weapons. That's some throwback stuff right there."
That statement is wrong. The Monkey King used quarterstaves to great effect.
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