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Old 10-28-2012, 12:55 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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Up until a few months ago, I thought Elmo was a girl (lol for more than a decade). His voice was just so cutsy and high pitched...he kissed and hugged everything, which I assumed was a girls being affectionate thing...and the third person thing I attributed to stereotypical Japanese school girl moeness.

So guys, you ever get a character's gender wrong?
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Up until a few months ago, I thought Elmo was a girl (lol for more than a decade). His voice was just so cutsy and high pitched...he kissed and hugged everything, which I assumed was a girls being affectionate thing...and the third person thing I attributed to stereotypical Japanese school girl moeness.

So guys, you ever get a character's gender wrong?
Hmm, can't think of any off hand. I have to say though, I'm a bit surprised. I thought everyone was aware that Elmo was a guy. He's voiced by this huge dude that lives in Baltimore IIRC.(or at least, he was from Baltimore)
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Up until a few months ago, I thought Elmo was a girl (lol for more than a decade). His voice was just so cutsy and high pitched...he kissed and hugged everything, which I assumed was a girls being affectionate thing...and the third person thing I attributed to stereotypical Japanese school girl moeness.

So guys, you ever get a character's gender wrong?
Squidbreath, are your Krillin from Dragon Ball Z?
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@Dr.Epic: I sure as hell am, I thought frieza was a girl until halfway throught the cell saga.
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Princess Mononoke has that giant talking wolf. Which as a giant wolf has a very deep and growling voice, but is actually female. It's established quite early on, but you keep forgetting it throughout the movie. But I'd say that's intentional.

The blond guy with the glasses in Elfen Lied had me fooled until the reveal scene.
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Also, the Salarian Queen in Mass Effect 3. Not helped by the fact that they look identical and their voices are very raspy and distorted, and that she's the only female Salarian that is ever seen. Probably...
And during the whole scene, everyone only says "the Dalatrass" or adresses her directly. You would have to know that the Dalatrass is the leader and that all Salarian leaders are female, which is easy to miss.
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But I think most of the time I fall for it is when it's set up deliberately.
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Blue from Blue's Cluesis a girl? What.
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Liz from the Magic School Bus is also a girl.
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Somehow that really confused me. When I was a kid, I don't think I knew that "Liz" was a girl's name...
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I didn't know tweety was a guy either.
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Liz from the Magic School Bus is also a girl.
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Somehow that really confused me. When I was a kid, I don't think I knew that "Liz" was a girl's name...
Didn't Liz wear make up? Or am I completely and utterly mistake?
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Liz from the Magic School Bus is also a girl.
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Somehow that really confused me. When I was a kid, I don't think I knew that "Liz" was a girl's name...
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Didn't Liz wear make up? Or am I completely and utterly mistake?
So does Gene Simmons. And Marilyn Manson. And Alice Cooper.
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So does Gene Simmons. And Marilyn Manson. And Alice Cooper.
As far as I know, of those individuals, the only one who has used stage makeup in a feminine way was Marilyn Manson when he was crossdressing as part of a show and the other two have not used makeup in a way that could ever be confused for the culturally established feminine use.

Though, I have to admit, I'd somehow forgotten the lizard using makeup.
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I think Alice Cooper has used genderbending make-up and clothes as part of his show. But he's had such a long career he's probably done everything.
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@Dr.Epic: I sure as hell am, I thought frieza was a girl until halfway throught the cell saga.
Funny how Freeza and Zarbon make you think they're girls while being guys, while Dodoria is the one who's the female of the bunch.
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Now, Zarbon, he I could tell was a pretty boy.

I couldn't tell what the heck Frieza was except that the voice actress was using an old woman/wicked witch voice for the character and when introduced he was riding around in a little clown-car that was reminiscent of Baba Yaga's flying mortar and pestle.

Maybe it's just evidence of the cultural differences, but an old woman voice with all signs pointing towards witch and/or witch-ogre...
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Blue from Blue's Clues and Frieza always both confused me.
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Funny how Freeza and Zarbon make you think they're girls while being guys, while Dodoria is the one who's the female of the bunch.
"...and that's why I was considered the most beautiful and fertile woman on my home planet. Until Feeza blew it up."

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freeza.
other than that it's limited to character that are supposed to have ambiguous gender.
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@Dr.Epic: I sure as hell am, I thought frieza was a girl until halfway throught the cell saga.
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Phew, I'm glad I'm not the only one!

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.... what.
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Has anyone mentioned Samus? Though, I supposed that only counts if you played the first game before any others.
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I know, right?
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I know, right?
you know, the guy who killed krillin?
didn't everyone?
shut up

he's a guy, but keeps getting female VAs
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you know, the guy who killed krillin?
didn't everyone?
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No clue what that color text is suppose to mean, but I was just poking fun at the spelling considering that, well, his name's been posted in this thread a few times already.

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Blue? No, she's a girl.
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No clue what that color text is suppose to mean, but I was just poking fun at the spelling considering that, well, his name's been posted in this thread a few times already.


Blue? No, she's a girl.
I KNEW Blue was a girl! I didnt remembeR how I knew, but i knewed it!
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I think he meant Frieza is a guy who keeps getting girl VAs.
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Wild Zero totally got me, but I was already more than halfway into the DVD drinking game with my best friend.

That movie is magnificent.
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No clue what that color text is suppose to mean, but I was just poking fun at the spelling considering that, well, his name's been posted in this thread a few times already.


Blue? No, she's a girl.
the color is me trying to create the illusion of a verbal exchange.

and the spelling changes depending on what source you're going by. toys, the show, the manga, videogames, they all pick whichever one they like.
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Another one(from an anime in this case): it took until Aladin was actually referred to as a he in the anime "magi" for me to realize he was male, due to his feminine voice and his clothes(he looks like he's wearing one of those anime female delinquent tops made from strips of cloth), though I suppose the "Aladin" part should have given away his gender.
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Funny how Freeza and Zarbon make you think they're girls while being guys, while Dodoria is the one who's the female of the bunch.

i'm pretty sure dodoria is also male!
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Flea from Chrono Trigger is delightfully androgynous.
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i'm pretty sure dodoria is also male!
In DBZ Abridged they actually joke about all the gender ambiguity. Pink aliens with big lips a different color are pretty easy targets, actually.
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