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Old 11-15-2012, 12:12 AM   Top  -  End  -  #31
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As one of the potential players, where is the IC thread? I may have botched an Investigation roll, but I can't find it, and I'd like to look.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:37 AM   Top  -  End  -  #32
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Only Zhu and Dream meet each other on the ship. And Huan is going to address his crew. So what do you have in mind?

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Old 11-15-2012, 03:40 AM   Top  -  End  -  #33
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Only Zhu and Dream meet each other on the ship. And Huan is going to address his crew. So what do you have in mind?

@Ifni http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259940
I don't think that's the right link, it takes me to a D&D 4e game. Can you double-check?
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:31 AM   Top  -  End  -  #34
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This should be right! ; p
Are we living in similar time zone? :)

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Sol, this D&D game you linked-... You're cheating on us with another gaming group! :O

No, don't deny it. How could you!? :P
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:32 AM   Top  -  End  -  #36
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EDIT: Critical Hit: MBA, extra (2d6)[10] (Critical Weapon and Magic +1]

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On a slightly less silly topic, I think I'll spend two points of my Experience on Literacy - which would give me ten left over-...

How many points would it take to raise my Daiklave's as 2-dot artefacts and grant them limited power over Fire and Water respectively?

Or maybe I should raise my Sail or some other stats. *Shrug*
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On a slightly less silly topic, I think I'll spend two points of my Experience on Literacy - which would give me ten left over-...

How many points would it take to raise my Daiklave's as 2-dot artefacts and grant them limited power over Fire and Water respectively?

Or maybe I should raise my Sail or some other stats. *Shrug*
The xp cost to raise the artifact another dot. Simple as that.

Edit: Though the justification would presumably require you to know someone able to craft the final artifact dot rating to do the upgrade. Also, do you mean that you are buying 1 dot in Lore or that there is a literacy merit or some such?
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The xp cost to raise the artifact another dot. Simple as that.

Edit: Though the justification would presumably require you to know someone able to craft the final artifact dot rating to do the upgrade. Also, do you mean that you are buying 1 dot in Lore or that there is a literacy merit or some such?

I guess I'll save it for later then, in favour of raising my stats.
And yeah, I mean a dot in Lore.

EDIT: And so speaks Huan T'zai "The deed is done, and let us celebrate my literacy with continued forum posting and internet conversation!" And it was good.
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Oh, first dot is 3 xp. If it was favored you would have a dot already and you aren't Twilight so... yeah.

But yes, thank you for becoming a valid target for Solar Linguistic charms.
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Oh, first dot is 3 xp. If it was favored you would have a dot already and you aren't Twilight so... yeah.

But yes, thank you for becoming a valid target for Solar Linguistic charms.
"I prepared explosive runes this morning."

And about that 3 exp dot - Argh, I'm foolish sometimes/all the time!

Edit: Raiseth have I my rating in Performance! For lo, the rules would not allow my ascent to the highest levels of bureaucracy alongside my attainment of literacy. And yay, for I am holy, I shall pilfer Ryzala's ambrosia for my own.
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"I prepared explosive runes this morning."

And about that 3 exp dot - Argh, I'm foolish sometimes/all the time!

Edit: Raiseth have I my rating in Performance! For lo, the rules would not allow my ascent to the highest levels of bureaucracy alongside my attainment of literacy. And yay, for I am holy, I shall pilfer Ryzala's ambrosia for my own.
I have long harbored a secret longing to see her thrown bodily from her office while Lytek gets his old job back. Then again, if this ever gets us into Yu-Shan, there will be much house cleaning.
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I have long harbored a secret longing to see her thrown bodily from her office while Lytek gets his old job back. Then again, if this ever gets us into Yu-Shan, there will be much house cleaning.
*Evil finger pyramids* Shall we fashion her star into an ash tray?
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Heh. If I get in, there may be some eventual tension along those lines, due to Compassion 5. Although my Twilight is terrible at social-fu, so she can probably be persuaded. Technically her Limit Break only triggers on seeing innocents suffering...
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*Evil finger pyramids* Shall we fashion her star into an ash tray?
Who there. She is very powerful. A bedpan at least.

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Heh. If I get in, there may be some eventual tension along those lines, due to Compassion 5. Although my Twilight is terrible at social-fu, so she can probably be persuaded. Technically her Limit Break only triggers on seeing innocents suffering...
We can work out a quid pro quo sort of thing. She is responsible for the god of innovation being trapped for thousands of years due to supporting the Solars. There is a Sidereal charm that lets them turn a god into starmetal temporarily.

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I believe the word you are looking for is famously.
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We can work out a quid pro quo sort of thing. She is responsible for the god of innovation being trapped for thousands of years due to supporting the Solars. There is a Sidereal charm that lets them turn a god into starmetal temporarily.
So, what you're saying is, let's team up with the Sidereals to kick annoying gods into shape? (in a temporary way that teaches them a lesson without permanently harming them) Huh. Autumn might actually be able to get Sidereal support for that kind of plan...

If I get in, I'm actually expecting the combination of "my Twilight's mentor is Bronze Faction" and "our Night is dedicated to undermining the Realm" to be more of a source of tension, at some point. We shall see! (maybe)

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Heh. It'll be fine, Ms. Compassion 5 sacrificed her personal ethic of non-violence for Terrestrial Circle Sorcery... (after her Chosen-of-Battles mentor persuaded her that sometimes the compassionate course of action requires punching evil in the face)
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So, what you're saying is, let's team up with the Sidereals to kick annoying gods into shape? (in a temporary way that teaches them a lesson without permanently harming them) Huh. Autumn might actually be able to get Sidereal support for that kind of plan...
It would have to be for a fairly long time given gods' perception of time. After a point, the threat becomes powerful enough I think.

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If I get in, I'm actually expecting the combination of "my Twilight's mentor is Bronze Faction" and "our Night is dedicated to undermining the Realm" to be more of a source of tension, at some point. We shall see! (maybe)
What about the Zenith's desire to throw down this Brazen Age, which includes the realm and the current state of Yu-Shan Politics?

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Heh. It'll be fine, Ms. Compassion 5 sacrificed her personal ethic of non-violence for Terrestrial Circle Sorcery... (after her Chosen-of-Battles mentor persuaded her that sometimes the compassionate course of action requires punching evil in the face)
Mr. Temperance 5 sacrificed his ability to view the world in simple terms. He can no longer have the clarity, purity, or comfort of Black and White.
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What about the Zenith's desire to throw down this Brazen Age, which includes the realm and the current state of Yu-Shan Politics?
Right now she'll be rather skeptical because she's heard an edited version of the Bronze Faction party line, in particular regarding what the end of the First Age was like. But I suspect they'll be compatible in the long run (well, assuming he intends to build something better to replace the "Brazen Age"; if he doesn't, she has some ideas of her own).

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Mmm, that's an interesting one.
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Right now she'll be rather skeptical because she's heard an edited version of the Bronze Faction party line, in particular regarding what the end of the First Age was like. But I suspect they'll be compatible in the long run (well, assuming he intends to build something better to replace the "Brazen Age"; if he doesn't, she has some ideas of her own).
Oh, he does. Notice he is 3/5 Twilight as it is, it will be a VERY shiny age.

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Mmm, that's an interesting one.
I like the Station of Choice explanation. I also agree that the cutting off a finger thing is terribly uninspired.
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Cutting off a finger is pretty weak, I would agree. They really should use a better example in the books.

Station of Sacrifice just sounds better though, doesn't it? I guess anything works as long as the Sorcerer comes out the other side a changed man/woman - hooray for character development!
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I would also like to point out, that my character is also interested in building something. I have a Abyssal version of this character who is content to just kill anyone (and everyone) who she figures is guilty of something (but especially dragon bloods). For the Solar however, I felt she needed something more.... generative. She very much follows a Punisher legal ideology. Justice, Not Law. While working against the Realm with one hand, she supports the creation of a new nation with the other (which is the bit that ties her to this Circle, instead of just wandering off in search of more dynasts to kill). Which she naturally plans to instill her values in.

And that, is where I see a great deal of the tension, in so far as my character goes anyway. There are several people in the group who seem well disposed to.... legalism, to say nothing of the entire body of Sidereals, and Heaven in general. The idea of upholding the spirit of a law, rather than the letter of the law, promoting vigilantism, and punishments that are directly equal to the crime, would disturb a great many
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As directed, posting the character into the OOC, extra experience points granted from the lovely GM spent (Picked up one more melee charm)

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And here is Autumn Wind

Heh, our Dawn does like his Melee charms, doesn't he? (although I can't talk given that most of my Charms are Martial Arts - but hey, they're useful and versatile, they let me notice when people are shadowing us, balance perfectly, and heal people with a touch...)

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It isn't reflected on my sheet, but I purchased Elysian Fulfillment Display with that last xp. It is one of the three options for Radiant Overture Ignition.

Chaotic: We are the Lawgivers, the spirit of the law is what we want the law to mean. Capricious? Of course. Legal? Well, we do have the Mandate to rule the world.
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Heh heh. Autumn Wind objects to that brand of legalism (We're Solars, Therefore It's Right).

... I think I'm going to need more Integrity.
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... I think I'm going to need more Integrity.
You will notice my sacrifice for Terrestrial Circle. Nothing is that clear cut.

The realities of the world mean that those with power for the most part are the ones who get to decide what the law is. This has applied since the Primordials. Consequently, those who created the concept of morality were of the opinion that Might Makes Right. Human morality at base is a combination of our intrinsic characteristics, which were designed to make us afraid of our betters to produce more prayer, and a social contract we developed to get along with each other.

A good ethical theory must balance what is good with what is good for people. As people are the one's who are meant to uphold it the theory will be fruitful only if there is instrumental value in it being upheld by people. This makes for some interesting conflicts.

We are Solars and therefore right is a Law of Nature in the same way as Things Fall Down. The only way it will change is if we change it. We must give up our right to be absolute if we wish to be equitable.
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Yes, there may be interesting philosophical discussions.

Exthalion, couple of questions: on the recruiting thread you mentioned "DBL" several times, saying it reduced crafting costs - I'm not familiar with this Charm, can you give me the full name? (I know Wonder-Forging Genius, from Oadenol's Codex, which reduces the Ability requirements to build artifacts, but this sounds different)

Also, would you mind posting the homebrew/custom charms you're using somewhere, or linking to them? I'd like to see them
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Yes, there may be interesting philosophical discussions.

Exthalion, couple of questions: on the recruiting thread you mentioned "DBL" several times, saying it reduced crafting costs - I'm not familiar with this Charm, can you give me the full name? (I know Wonder-Forging Genius, from Oadenol's Codex, which reduces the Ability requirements to build artifacts, but this sounds different)

Also, would you mind posting the homebrew/custom charms you're using somewhere, or linking to them? I'd like to see them
Design Beyond the Limit is from scroll of errata. For the Solar, all manses and artifacts are built as though one dot lower. A 4 dot manse can cap a 3 dot demesne at full power. A two dot artifact requires 1 exotic material component and as many successes as a 1 dot.

It can turn level 1 artifacts into more or less mundane craft projects and cap 5 dot demesne with super manses.

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And so our story begins-...
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