I propose a grimace federation of Adele-Oren-Madeline in opposition to the rising Paris-Nina-Wotan bloc.
However we make drafts when the map/lords arrive, eh. I'd rather not speculate, just politic. I don't know who the new lord is going to be. Or what kind of funky anima troubadour Tyra will wind up as. Or whether they're the same person or not.
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I don't know. But as you say, Falcon is the only other one she really has any positive feeling towards. Madeline's probably third. The rest she either hasn't interacted with or despises.
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I propose a grimace federation of Adele-Oren-Madeline in opposition to the rising Paris-Nina-Wotan bloc.
However we make drafts when the map/lords arrive, eh. I'd rather not speculate, just politic. I don't know who the new lord is going to be. Or what kind of funky anima troubadour Tyra will wind up as. Or whether they're the same person or not.
I think it's not Herp, and assuming we can split up and team up at will, it'll be more whose better for which map, then politic
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I don't know. But as you say, Falcon is the only other one she really has any positive feeling towards. Madeline's probably third. The rest she either hasn't interacted with or despises.
Something amuses me about Paris having a positive feeling for the womanizer. Even not taking it pervertly.
Oren I can see, but Madeline a grimacer? I figured she was simply a young girl out of her depth, and would probably be much happier outside of a war context.
@Penguinator,
Feel free to run any ideas by me if you think of any. I'm thinking Falcon's cheerful personality and hidden dark past might just be the ticket to unlock Paris's own.
I feel for ya, Penguinator. As of the end of this map, I'm going to need to come up with a reason for Roland to stay with the party.
He was origionally escorting Aramel to the temple in Eben, to ensure they got the Scriptures. He did that. Now Aramel's dead. He's liable to return home and deliver the bad news. Mission completed beforehand, at least. Not that that consoles him.
Feel free to run any ideas by me if you think of any. I'm thinking Falcon's cheerful personality and hidden dark past might just be the ticket to unlock Paris's own.
I'll see what I can come up with. Actually... something did come to mind.
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I feel for ya, Penguinator. As of the end of this map, I'm going to need to come up with a reason for Roland to stay with the party.
That is rather rough. Although I suppose he would take orders from one of the higher-ups in the Osulian church? That could be what happens.
Although, the very next map is something along the lines of saving Lord Calem, I believe, so he would stay for that, at the very least.
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Something amuses me about Paris having a positive feeling for the womanizer. Even not taking it pervertly.
Yes, you'd think she would find that hard to deal with. (In fact, we joked about it before Falcon was introduced) But on the other hand, Paris was never particularly anti-male, nor was she intended to be, she's anti-social in general.
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That is rather rough. Although I suppose he would take orders from one of the higher-ups in the Osulian church? That could be what happens.
Although, the very next map is something along the lines of saving Lord Calem, I believe, so he would stay for that, at the very least.
Yes, you'd think she would find that hard to deal with. (In fact, we joked about it before Falcon was introduced) But on the other hand, Paris was never particularly anti-male, nor was she intended to be, she's anti-social in general.
Nina's reason is easy. She just respects Imeena enough to follow her.
About Paris. True, I'd say perhaps Paris just wants to be left alone, but Nina shows that isn't true.
Question how does Paris feel about Nina feeling Imeena's a big sister figure?
Paris is neutral towards Imeena, but I guess if it came down to it, she would be fourth on her list after Madeline.
As for Nina's thoughts on Imeena, Paris at this point probably knows very little about them. I don't suspect it would make much difference.
Okay I was just wondering, if she felt like Nina was a fool for following Imeena, if Imeena was slightly higher in Paris's esteem because of Nina, and so forth.
I propose a grimace federation of Adele-Oren-Madeline in opposition to the rising Paris-Nina-Wotan bloc.
I don't think Madeline is similar to Adele and Oren.
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I don't know. But as you say, Falcon is the only other one she really has any positive feeling towards. Madeline's probably third. The rest she either hasn't interacted with or despises.
Yes, I have tried to think of how for Madeline to talk to Paris. But I think Madeline is a little [intimidate] by Paris.
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@Grassy,
Oren I can see, but Madeline a grimacer? I figured she was simply a young girl out of her depth, and would probably be much happier outside of a war context.
Yes, I think original idea was not so dark. Game became very violent of description. I hope Madeline will recover and heroically shine.
I don't think Madeline is similar to Adele and Oren.
Yes. Yes, I feel that. Grassy, would you care to elaborate? Isn't Madeline a pacifist? Or are you suggesting that she stays with Oren because she hired him?
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Yes, I have tried to think of how for Madeline to talk to Paris. But I think Madeline is a little [intimidate] by Paris.
Haha, I can understand that. Paris is apprehensive towards other religions at best. I'm honestly surprised that she's been able to get along with Madeline this well.
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So Paris intimidates Madeline, and apparently Falcon and Nina easily embarrass Madeline.
Hey Kasanip do you want to do that interaction thing, some of us did a while back. I'd like to hear Madeline thoughts.
I can try.
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Haha, I can understand that. Paris is apprehensive towards other religions at best. I'm honestly surprised that she's been able to get along with Madeline this well.
I hope Madeline has not seemed aggressive about religion.
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Any ideas in mind for that Kasanip? I think Falcon might have some nuggets of wisdom to share with her in a support convo.
I don't know. I think it depends some on story, and oracle nature. But it can't be imagined what to do. For example, for class change.
I don't see them as particularly similar myself, but they have a potential to become familiar (two 4r and four 3r bonuses between the trio). The old soldier, young soldier and pacifist. We don't know a whole lot about Oren, Madeline's Nalban faith, or Adele's own past; and forcing them to explain themselves to each other will lend to some articulated characterization.
I hope everyone winds up with better motivations than 'I was kidnapped' for their eventual allotment. If we start a mages' bloc though, we know the obvious additions (Callem and Wotan for their 4r bonuses). Callem/Wotan is the same WT configuration as Adele/Oren. It seemed like a solid basis for a party split (the swordsmen, yet to be recruited and yet-to-be-seen lord are still floating in the air, awaiting distribution). The ugly business of splitting the party up is that there are inevitably two parties.
If the composition is mutable between maps though, that's a load off our shoulders. Though narratively there would be no 'party split'.
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Hugo needs CON 10 to shove Wotan, he only has CON 8.
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I don't know. I think it depends some on story, and oracle nature. But it can't be imagined what to do. For example, for class change.
I may have some ideas on possible support dialogue for Madeline and Falcon. PM me if you want to hear about it.
As for class change, I'm not certain how Sairyu's going to make this work, but I'm going to guess that the promotion items in this game won't be magical artifacts that make the PCs power-up all of a sudden.
For Falcon, at least, I imagine his promotion would be him getting a sudden flash of insight into his sword style thanks to his promotion item, causing him to discard his flashier movements for a more effective and deadly style; thus, he becomes a Swordmaster.
Well, do you want Madeline to gain light magic that seems the simplest.
I have an idea if you don't want Madeline to start fighting.
Maybe Madeline could use her prayers to the same effect as Nini's grace, Filla's might and so fourth. She could be the team's white mage/buffer.
Yes, it is the biggest problem to choose such a narrative [does Madeline stop pacifism?] Of course maybe there is a good reason, but somehow it would be very sad.
It was thought maybe to gain such the [Dance] abilities, but already it was desired for Nina to have them.
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I may have some ideas on possible support dialogue for Madeline and Falcon. PM me if you want to hear about it.
Maybe split them up? Nina gets the "extra turn" dance, while Madeline gets the "Ninian's Rings" buffs?
EDIT: @Kasanip,
What would you say to a conversation between Falcon and Madeline after the end of the map?
It is possible. However, it is also problem for Sairyu, because such a [bracelet] were items. I haven't suggested, because it would be troubling. Actually it seems better to make them staves, but then doesn't solve class change problem.
Of course conversation can happen. At end of map a hat must be returned.
Maybe split them up? Nina gets the "extra turn" dance, while Madeline gets the "Ninian's Rings" buffs?
EDIT: @Kasanip,
What would you say to a conversation between Falcon and Madeline after the end of the map?
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Nina's more charismatic so it's easier to see her inspiring people to work quickly.
Meanwhile Madeline's prayers could more easily buff people. And this way she keeps her pacifism.
For promotion ideas I'm not so sure. Maybe if she goes dancing then she realizes exactly how to move her body to maximize her magical potential, instead of using very ineffective somatic components.
For promotion ideas I'm not so sure. Maybe if she goes dancing then she realizes exactly how to move her body to maximize her magical potential, instead of using very ineffective somatic components.
Hmm... I have an idea about that.
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It is possible. However, it is also problem for Sairyu, because such a [bracelet] were items. I haven't suggested, because it would be troubling. Actually it seems better to make them staves, but then doesn't solve class change problem.
Maybe they don't have to be items. Maybe Madeline simply gains the ability to use one charge from a Heal or Mend staff for any number of buff effects instead of healing? For example, maybe she can use a Heal staff to buff another character, so that character gets the Bishop's usual Slayer skill for one round?
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Name: Roland Valent
Age: 22
Class: Mounted Knight (Bow)
Affinity: Wind
Items: Iron Bow, Iron Bow
Description:
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A boyish looking young man with blonde hair that seems in a permanent state of disarray. His fair skin has been tanned from working outdoors most of the time. His green eyes always seem to be twinkling with mischief, and he's quick to smile. He favors green armor with yellow trim, to compliment his natural features.
Base Stats
Stat
Value
Growth
HP
18
70%
Str
6
55%
Skl
7
60%
Spd
5
40%
Lck
5
40%
Def
4
20%
Res
4
20%
Stat
Value
Con
8
Mov
7
Backstory:
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Raised as a temple knight in Hiroth, Roland was trained in Combat and Horsemanship from an early age. Despite his religeous upbringings, he's always been more interested in the goings on of the world outside.
The Church of Osulia has left it's mark on Roland, though. His faith is stronger than many other knights, and he's aversed to close combat, preferring to fight by fire and movement rather than trading blows and shedding blood with his enemies.
Roland enjoys the lighter things in life, and seems to always be looking for an excuse to laugh. Some at the temple thought he might be a bad influence on Aramel, as Roland was often caught getting into trouble as a child, although this might have actually been the other way around.
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