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Old 11-16-2012, 05:26 PM   Top  -  End  -  #91
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Now that my entry is finally er, finalized, it's time for the mad dash to see if I can format it and submit it by tomorrow night's deadline!

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And now, it's time for the reveal! Please avoid posting in this thread until I give the all-clear. Thanks.
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Made with genuine Shadowsteel.
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I laughed. “Doctor Mallory? The mad chirurgeon? You’re telling me that Mad Mallory is an assassin?”

Charlene scowled at me. “Yes,” she said darkly, “and if you don’t begin taking this job seriously, he’s going to make short work of you.”

“Sorry,” I said, still snickering. “I just - when you told me we were assigned to eliminate our most dangerous threat yet, I thought perhaps you meant perhaps the Blood of Vol. I didn’t expect us to take on a doctor.”

“Antony Mallory is no simple doctor,” she said. “In truth, he worked in a smithy during the Last War, a smithy long thought to be one of Starrin d’Cannith’s secret workshops. We believe he picked up on some of House Cannith’s forbidden artifice. When the Last War ended, he abandoned the forges and opened shop as a chirurgeon, where he could gain an even closer understanding of the human body.”

“Well, that explains his reputation,” I said, chewing my beard. “No wonder he’s such a poor chirurgeon, if he was trained for a hammer and anvil! What was his goal?”

“We believe he is trying to create a hybrid creature - part human, part warforged,” she said, and I shivered. “In fact, if our detective is as good as he claims to be, Mallory has already completed this procedure once - on himself...”


Antony Mallory, a/k/a AM-1468
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I pushed my way into the chirurgeon’s shop. It was dark, but I could see a low red gleam toward the back. I made my way to it.

“Hello, there,” said a harsh voice. I started. “I apologize for the state of things here. Always so much to do, and so little time to clean up...”

“Where are you?” I was looking all around, but could not see the source of the voice in the dim. “I can’t see anything in here!”

“My apologies,” said the voice. “I work better in the dark, and sometimes it is easy to forget that others do not share my... aptitude... with the shadows. Allow me to remedy the situation.”

With that, the workshop was suddenly illuminated, although I could see no lamp or lantern. The shop was indeed messy, littered with paper and cruel-looking instruments. Jars of specimens lined the back wall. But most gruesome of all was the doctor.

He was wearing a chirurgeon’s frock of a muddy brown color, heavily stained. His face was deeply lined and covered in scars, and his right eye was gone completely, replaced instead with a lens of some sort. The lens glowed a deep red. His right hand had long, spidery fingers, which were currently holding a scalpel over what appeared to be a cat. His left hand was something else entirely - bulky and metallic, and covered in harsh spikes.

“Now, my friend,” he said, still focusing on his cat. “Tell me what ails you, and I will see what I can do.”

“Actually,” I said, “it’s not what, it’s who. I came here because I’d heard you can make people, erm, disappear.”

He looked at me hard, his right eye glinting. “Close the door,” he said, and I did. “Truth be told, I would prefer to never have to take on such work, but my... experiments... can be costly, and a chirurgeon not of House Jorasco is hard pressed to find good, paying work. Now, sit down.”

“Thank you, Doctor Mallory,” I said. I moved a pile of scrolls off a wooden stool and sat.

“I prefer AM-1468 these days. Antony Mallory is so tragically human, don’t you agree? Convential names define a person’s past: ancestry, house, location, religion. I am not who I was ten years ago, and certainly not who I will be in twenty years. The name 1468 reflects my conviction that the year 1468 will be a magical time, a time when such collective identity is no longer necessary.”

“The year 1468?” I was confused. This job was not going at all as planned. “But... that’s ages away! What does that have to do with you?”

“Aye, ages away. Five hundred years after my birth, if you must know. But I fully plan to see that year’s dawn. 1468 is a dream and a goal, a reminder to myself that I shall never die...”

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“I hate to be gauche,” said Doctor Mallory, “but I would prefer half of my payment up front. Collections is such a sticky matter, and I would much prefer to avoid it.”

“Of course,” I said. I fumbled in my bag, pretending to search for coin. My heart was pounding as I closed my hands around the dagger. If I could get one shot in, one shot to put him off his guard, I knew I could finish him.

I pulled out the dagger and flung it toward the doctor. I had just enough time to see his smile, and then he vanished, flickering out of existence like a candle.

Just as suddenly, I felt a metal fist thud against my head from somewhere behind me, followed by a hard kick to the back of my knees. I staggered - surely two such blows could not debilitate me so quickly? But I felt my lifeforce draining, as though it was being sucked away.

The metal hand closed around my throat, and the terrible feeling of draining increased. “Naughty, naughty,” the doctor whispered into my ear. “Didn’t I tell you? I shall never die. Now,” he went on, and suddenly I could feel a powerful energy flowing through his fist, and hear his voice in my head, commanding me to obey. “Now, perhaps you ought to tell me who sent you...”


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Old 11-17-2012, 07:05 PM   Top  -  End  -  #94
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"Thank you very much, o Mr. Roboto, for helping me escape when I needed to" - Styx
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d'Cannith, Kilroy
Korvaire
Cyre

Analysis:
1. Problem Restatement: To rebuild myself to retake Cyre, by
- Learning how this darn Dragonmark works (I'll get it eventually.)
- Pestering someone so that I can be trained to train with the scouts
- Rebuilding myself as a Warforged (that mist only works on living things, right?)
- Make some friends (optional)
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- TO world
- - Kilroy d'Cannith, badass metal man (adv)
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- FROM parents
- - Marena d'Cannith, mother (aristocrat)
- - Pietr d'Cannith, father (aristocrat)
- FROM sources
- - Surgical Resonance Device (SRD)
- - Master Ovar Estraven (MoE)
- - Dr. Ravan Alcaster (Dra)
- - The expeditious conversion surgery (ECS)
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You should see the prototype, Laurel.
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You know "From many, one?" He's the reverse.
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Hezekiah d'Cannith, Right Hand of the Becoming God
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"Bone shall break and flesh may fail, but the 'Forged shall flourish forever!" -Hezekiah 1:25


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This Father is one mean mother.
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Nothing to see here, folks; it's just a robot dragon. Wait, what?
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Born from the depths of the sea...
Remade in Bahamut's form...
Rebuilt in the forges of Cannith...

...this is KIRYU !



Kiryu, dragonborn (heart aspect) darfellan duskblade 6/suel arcanamach 4/renegade mastermaker 10
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Look out! It's a. . . I have no idea, really.
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CN Changeling wizard 5/renegade mastermaker 3/ master transmogrifist 2/ RM 10/ archmage 3

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LevelClassBase Attack BonusFort SaveRef SaveWill SaveSkillsFeatsClass Features
1stChangeling Wizard 1
+0
+0
+0
+2
Bluff 4, Concentration 4, Craft (sculpting) 4, Disguise 4,Know (arcana) 4, Know (nature) 4, Sleight of Hand 4, Spellcraft 4, Eschew MaterialsScribe Scroll, Sudden Shift, Dual Specialization (Illusion/Transmutation) Banned Schools: Evocation, Necromancy, Enchantment
2ndWizard 2
+1
+0
+0
+3
Bluff 1 (5), Concentration 1 (5), Craft (sculpting) 5, Disguise 1 (5)  
3rdWizard 3
+1
+1
+1
+3
Concentration 1 (6), Craft (sculpting) 1 (6), Know (arcana) 2 (6), Spellcraft 6,Craft Wondrous Item 
4thWizard 4
+2
+1
+1
+4
Concentration 1 (7) Craft (sculpting) 1 (7), Know (arcana) 1 (7), Know (nature) 2 (6) Spellcraft 1 (7)  
5thWizard 5
+2
+1
+1
+4
Concentration 1 (8) Craft (sculpting) 1 (8), Know (arcana) 1 (8), Know (dungeoneering) 1, Know (nature) 1 (7), Spellcraft 1 (8) Bonus Feat: (Craft Magic Arms and Armor)
6thRenegade Mastermaker 1
+2
+3
+1
+6
Concentration 1 (9), Know (arcana) 1 (9), Know (planes) 1, Spellcraft 1 (9), UMD 4Spell focus: IllusionBattlefist, craft master
7thRenegade Mastermaker 2
+3
+4
+1
+7
Concentration 1 (10), Know (arcana) 1 (10), Know (planes) 1, Spellcraft 1 (10), UMD 4 (8) Battlefist +1, self-repair
8thRenegade Mastermaker 3
+4
+4
+2
+7
Concentration 1 (11), Know (arcana) 1 (11), Know (planes) 3 (4), Spellcraft 1 (11), UMD 3 (11) Supporting construction
9thMaster Transmogrifist 1
+4
+4
+2
+9
Bluff 2 (8), Concentration 1 (11), Disguise 2 (7), Know (arcana) 1 (12), Spellcraft 1 (12)Spell Focus: TransmutationExtended change, favored shapes: (Beholder, Spellweaver, Kuo-toa Leviathan)
10thMaster Transmogrifist 2
+5
+4
+2
+10
Bluff 2 (10), Concentration 1 (13), Disguise 2 (9), Know (arcana) 1 (13), Spellcraft 1 (13) Manifest senses
11thRenegade Mastermaker 4
+6/+1
+5
+2
+11
Concentration 1 (14), Know (arcana) 1 (14), Know (planes) 5 (7), Spellcraft 1 (14), UMD 1 (12) Damage reduction 1/adamantine
12thRenegade Mastermaker 5
+6/+1
+5
+2
+11
Concentration 1 (15), Know (arcana) 1 (15), Know (planes) 5 (12), Spellcraft 1 (15), UMD 1 (13) SF: spellcraftBattlefist +2
13thRenegade Mastermaker 6
+7/+2
+6
+3
+12
Concentration 1 (16), Know (arcana) 1 (16), Know (planes) 4 (16), Spellcraft 1 (16), UMD 2 (15)  
14thRenegade Mastermaker 7
+8/+3
+6
+3
+12
Concentration 1 (17), Know (arcana) 1 (17), Know (architecture and engineering) 3, Know (planes) 1 (17), Spellcraft 1 (17), UMD 2 (17) Embed component
15thRenegade Mastermaker 8
+9/+4
+7
+3
+13
Concentration 1 (18), Know (arcana) 1 (18), Know (architecture and engineering) 4 (7), Know (planes) 1 (18), Spellcraft 1 (18), UMD 1 (18) Assume Supernatural Ability: Beholder's Antimagic FieldDamage reduction 2/adamantine
16thRenegade Mastermaker 9
+9/+4
+7
+4
+13
Concentration 1 (19), Know (arcana) 1 (19), Know (architecture and engineering) 5 (12), Know (planes) 1 (19), Spellcraft 1 (19), UMD 1 (19) Battlefist 3
17thRenegade Mastermaker 10
+10/+5
+8
+4
+14
Concentration 1 (20), Know (arcana) 1 (20), Know (architecture and engineering) 5 (17), Know (planes) 1 (20), Spellcraft 1 (20), UMD 1(20) Construct Exemplar
18thArchmage 1
+10/+5
+8
+4
+16
Concentration 1 (21), Know (arcana) 1 (21), Know (nature) 4 (11), Know (planes) 1 (21), Spellcraft 1 (21)Supernatural Transformation (Polymorph)High Arcana: Spell-like ability: Polymorph 4/day 7th lvl slot)
19thArchmage 2
+11/+6/+1
+8
+4
+17
Concentration 1 (22), Know (arcana) 1 (22), Know (nature) 4 (15), Know (planes) 1 (22), Spellcraft 1 (22) High Arcana: Mastery of the Elements 8th lvl slot, 5th lvl slot
20thArchmage 3
+11/+6/+1
+9
+5
+17
Concentration 1 (23), Know (arcana) 1 (23), Know (nature) 4 (19), Know (planes) 1 (23), Spellcraft 1 (23) High Arcana: Mastery of Shaping 6th lvl slot

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Old 11-17-2012, 07:25 PM   Top  -  End  -  #100
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That's the last of them, folks! On your mark, get set, JUDGE!
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Wow, I'm surprised there weren't more entries! A lot of fun things here.

I had a couple of build thoughts involving the artificer, but I thought it would mean too much of a hit to originality, being the most obvious lead-in. My favorite was an artificer/renegade mastermaker/fleshwarper, but even though I got as far as a build write-up, I ended up abandoning the build... I was having a lot of trouble getting the pre-reqs down, and I knew I'd get hammered both in originality (for artificer) and in elegance (because of some fairly cheesy graft options).

I'm also super surprised no one decided to do a ranged battlefist option, which was my very first thought. I don't know why, but I sort of expected to see at least one of those... I'm sort of sad that I didn't go that route now!
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Interesting builds all around. Amusingly enough, one of the other entries this round was almost identical to one of my earlier ideas.
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Wow, I'm surprised there weren't more entries! A lot of fun things here.

I had a couple of build thoughts involving the artificer, but I thought it would mean too much of a hit to originality, being the most obvious lead-in. My favorite was an artificer/renegade mastermaker/fleshwarper, but even though I got as far as a build write-up, I ended up abandoning the build... I was having a lot of trouble getting the pre-reqs down, and I knew I'd get hammered both in originality (for artificer) and in elegance (because of some fairly cheesy graft options).

I'm also super surprised no one decided to do a ranged battlefist option, which was my very first thought. I don't know why, but I sort of expected to see at least one of those... I'm sort of sad that I didn't go that route now!
I was sure that this competition would be littered with fleshwarpers, so I didn't do one either.

it's part of the process for iron chef I do every time that I just call vizzinniing for obvious reasons. I often go through this exercise when it comes to "obvious" spices to compliment the SI.

I was sure there'd be no artificers though, too obvious and too much bookkeeping, plus dependent on items, which is never good for scores.
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I gave up when I noticed Artificer is actually good with his class, being able to use his construct-only infusions on himself (and they come fairly late, too), while all other classes simply had better options elsewhere.
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...and, for fun, here are the entries:

#EntryRaceClass
1Antony MalloryHumanSleeping Tiger Monk 2/Shadowcaster 7/Renegade Mastermaker 10/Soul Eater 1
2KilroyHumanHuman Paragon 3/Cyre Scout 7/Renegade Mastermaker 10
3HardyHumanCloistered Cleric 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Psychic Theurge 3/Renegade Mastermaker 10
4Hezekiah d'CannithHumanMonk 1/Wu Jen 9/Renegade Mastermaker 10
5Father AldwinHumanCleric 3/Church Inquisitor 6/Renegade Mastermaker 10/Contemplative 1
6KiryuDragonborn DarfellanDuskblade 6/Suel Arcanamach 4/Renegade Mastermaker 10
7Gregor SamsaChangelingWizard 5/Renegade Mastermaker 10/Master Transmogrifist 2/Archmage 3

(And again I am reminded that I spend way too much time reading Iron Chef entries... at this point I'm pretty sure who the authors of five out of seven builds are, just because the style of certain contestants has grown so familiar to me...)

EDIT: And, since my brain is still riffing on RMM build ideas...

Gold Dwarf, Incarnate 2/Artificer 3/Ironsoul Forgemaster 5/Renegade Mastermaker 10

Crafts weapons and armor (including enhancing the battlefist) at a caster level of 28. Gets fifth-level infusions (including all of the tasty construct-only fourth level infusions) and at least two chakra binds, or more with feats.

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I try to not read that hard into them, for that reason exactly.

Oh, and my planned build that would make you hurt me?

Phrenic Incarnate Warforged Swashbuckler (Arcane Stunt) 7/Renegade Mastermaker 10/Reforged 3

I literally have no reason to take the SI, and the last 3 levels actually remove all the benefits of the class except for battlefist, DR 2/-, and that ability to sacrifice spell-slots (that I don't have) to heal myself.

I have no casting to advance, I'm not good at anything, and... yeah.

I was aiming at the minimum possible UoSI score possible.

My feats would have included something to give me Detect Magic 1/Day, so I could take Sense Quintessence.

Because Thoon is Thoon!
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Note from Hardy:
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Can I get specification on which source is used for what on Kilroy?
I can't figure out what the dragon is used for....(I'm assuming its dragon compendium?)

I'll worry about getting started later. For now, a general overview is interesting. I think there aren't any really similar builds.
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I think Dra stands for Dragonmarked...
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:58 AM   Top  -  End  -  #111
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I honestly kinda half-expected at least one entry to try to get into the SI asap so they could finish up with warforged juggernaut; going for the from a fleshy into a full-on robot schtick. Ah well.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:50 AM   Top  -  End  -  #112
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I was going to try for a Mechanatrix build, but then I realized it wouldn't be legal, since they are Outsiders, not humanoids. Then I thought about a Lesser Planetouched Mechanatrix, but that would involve mixing FR and Eberron material...

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Old 11-18-2012, 06:49 AM   Top  -  End  -  #113
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part of my features for RM 10 got clipped. being an arcane spellcaster, I took unarmored body as my bonus warforged feat. no real effect, just doesn't take away what I have
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:19 AM   Top  -  End  -  #114
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I considered building an artificer 8 / Renegade Mastermaker 10 / Cannith Wand Adept 2

Going with load of wand feats, and using the warforged turning to get wand bonding (which is a [warforged] feat).

At the end I didn't take that route because artificer was the obvious entry for the renegade, I feared it was going to be quite unoriginal and it wouldn't be able to compete with 9th level spells.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:08 AM   Top  -  End  -  #115
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I honestly kinda half-expected at least one entry to try to get into the SI asap so they could finish up with warforged juggernaut; going for the from a fleshy into a full-on robot schtick. Ah well.
I had several build ideas which did exactly that:

Wizard 5/Renegade Mastermaker 10/Warforged Charger 5 was the simplest, but wound up being way too weak as a wizard (only 7th level spells), way too fragile to use a battlefist in melee, and too lousy of a charger/bull rusher to justify Warforged Charger. That and there was no easy way to reduce the 35% Arcane Spell Failure from Adamantine Body.

Duskblade 2/Ranger 3/Renegade Mastermaker 10/Warforged Charger 5 (using the Frostblood Half-Orc trick to get Craft Arms & Armor at ECL 5, and Practiced Spellcaster to qualify for the caster level) was a bit stronger, better BAB and better HP, 3rd level Duskblade spells, and Battle Caster x2 solves the ASF problem. But there weren't enough feat slots left to do anything interesting with the battlefist, and I wasn't sure I wanted to push the judges on TWFing greatsword + offhand battlefist.

Duskblade 3/Human Paragon 2/Renegade Mastermaker 10/Warforged Charger 5 was a bit more promising, +2 caster levels and one more bonus feat than the last build, and I had the inklings of a backstory, but I couldn't figure out how to get any decent damage output with the battlefist on a charge.

The most promising build:

Warlock 3/Human Paragon 2/Renegade Mastermaker 10/Warforged Charger 5.

I even had a name for him: Tohoni Stahark, A.K.A. "Iron Man". 6d6 eldritch blast, flying, and one greater invocation. I even thought I might have a trick with getting iterative slams with the battlefist, but then I reread Hideous Blow, and it was indeed a Hideous Blow to my build (good gawd, has any invocation destroyed so much hope and joy in the world?). I tried to salvage it with Eldritch Glaive, but by my reading, that didn't allow offhand attacks, so the battlefist became nearly useless... and most of the class features of Renegade Mastermaker revolve around it, so why would I take 10 levels of that over 10 more levels of Warlock?

Ah well. I may throw my hat in as a judge, although I've never done it before, and I'm worried I'd make a mess of it.

I'm a bit astounded there were no Ur-Priest 2's in there somewhere. But then I myself discarded that idea as "too easy".

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Old 11-18-2012, 11:08 AM   Top  -  End  -  #116
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at this point I'm pretty sure who the authors of five out of seven builds are, just because the style of certain contestants has grown so familiar to me...
*cue new standards for submission guidelines*

I've got ideas for 2 of the 7 myself, just based on reading the questions earlier in the thread. For that reason, I was thinking we ought to PM questions to the chairman, rather than post them here.

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Oh, and my planned build that would make you hurt me?

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Ah well. I may throw my hat in as a judge, although I've never done it before, and I'm worried I'd make a mess of it.

I'm a bit astounded there were no Ur-Priest 2's in there somewhere. But then I myself discarded that idea as "too easy".
Good, so now we have 3 judges, is that right?

Mmm, and now you're making me think Able Learner Factotum 1/Warblade 5/RMM 1/Ur-Priest 2/RMM +9/something, and I just finished putting all that work into the build I submitted!
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:13 AM   Top  -  End  -  #117
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I honestly kinda half-expected at least one entry to try to get into the SI asap so they could finish up with warforged juggernaut; going for the from a fleshy into a full-on robot schtick. Ah well.
I thought about it, and also about Spellcarved Soldier, but abandoned both pretty quickly because I was sure someone else would go that route. Anyhow, I didn't have a full build idea for either...

And Amechra, that build does hurt... but I love it! Can there be a "shooting the moon" option in IC contests?
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:02 PM   Top  -  End  -  #118
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The build I was planning to enter was Lesser Aasimar Ranger 1/Duskblade 2/Paladin 2/ Cyran Avenger 1/Suel Arcanamach 1/ Renegade Mastermaker 10/ Cyran Avenger +3. But in the end I couldn't make all the pre-requisites work and I didn't had time to start from scratch, though I did toy with an artificer 5/Renegade Mastermaker 10/ Cyran Avenger 5.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:32 PM   Top  -  End  -  #119
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Just out of curiosity, did Vknight post his judging criteria?

Because it looks to me like he scored everything on just how he felt about the fluff.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:51 PM   Top  -  End  -  #120
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Just out of curiosity, did Vknight post his judging criteria?

Because it looks to me like he scored everything on just how he felt about the fluff.
to avoid another green star adept, let's go ahead and resolve disputes about judging through PMs. here are his criteria, so you can compare them to the end result:

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