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Old 11-13-2012, 01:34 AM   Top  -  End  -  #91
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and the paranoia finds a basis in the game. Hopefully, the fire trick works. Fire solves everything, somehow...
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:35 AM   Top  -  End  -  #92
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And now, to make up a large bladed spider. Any suggestions?
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:13 AM   Top  -  End  -  #93
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Its in one of the books believe it or not. P.79 of Monsters of Fareun. Its weak but it gets the job done and can be upgraded by RHD
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:20 AM   Top  -  End  -  #94
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Well, I would say start here, and probably beef it up a bit, add an entangle special ability, add in the swords for some more damage, and possibly some mooks.

Note: the Cr's are not accurate. This is a pile of HP, so they have a low cr. Consider Tarith deals around say... 18d6+39 damage a round, but has 78 hp.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:06 AM   Top  -  End  -  #95
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Nice post Tarith. Hope you enjoy mine.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:07 AM   Top  -  End  -  #96
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Your posts do tend to be fairly good.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:27 AM   Top  -  End  -  #97
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Only when I have the time and concentration to do a good one. I like long posts but hardly get to do it.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:31 AM   Top  -  End  -  #98
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sadly, I try to make my posts a bit shorter, but to still convey the character. I think that he is currently a bit too nice, though.

Of course, I do have the advantage of not having nearly as much stuff to respond to currently. Only a spider infested forge with a blade spider that is intending on emulating Shelob. I am just hoping there are no spider swarms in there, because my only defense against them would be fly. With luck though, the oil fire will get rid of them. Although Tarith is now running low on oil.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:28 AM   Top  -  End  -  #99
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Can always pick more up when you are done. Not sure if swans rest would have any, but it is in their price range. Also I defer to Tariths crusader if ToB is allowed. As I said I made a character using the books we had, was it optimized, I would like to think so for the books allowed to us. But does not compare to anything in ToB. Also alan most DMs ban books they do not understand. Not many people understand ToB, for example I made 3 level 1 dwarven crusaders to go against my friends level 1 Sayian character and if not for DM feint he would have died from crossbows, never mind their actual sword.

@Alan Angelis is in your control at this time.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:30 AM   Top  -  End  -  #100
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Dantie, at level 1, 3 characters of any class beat a single character of level 1 if they have crossbows.
3d10 damage will kill any sane character with 1 hd.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:39 AM   Top  -  End  -  #101
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He got d12s for health, gestalt and had magic (well ki in this case) and could turn into a huge friken monkey thing that shoots beams out of its mouth. his con was at like 20 so +5 so he started with around 17 health at 1st level. he made the mistake of trying to blast them all to hell before talking. He forgot they could see him before he could see them.

Wanted to teach him the basics of combat and you know being sneaky is normally better. Set up three guards in a 100ft. Cave, all he had to do was get to the building behind them. Knowing this he proceed to make a huge ball of light and upon seeing something shots a ki blast at it for 1d6 damage.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:43 AM   Top  -  End  -  #102
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3d10 damage is roughly 16.5 damage. if you used light, you could probably deal 6d8 damage, for 27 dam.

There is a reason 3.5 is called rocket tag at low and high levels. The average character can kill the average character in a round.

Being Sneaky is not inherently better. Here, he should have used a longbow to engage at long range, dropping one of 2 of them before they reach him.
Besides, at level one, you have 4 ranks to their 0 ranks. Stealth is the skill that gets more reliable at high levels, so long as you are smart about when you use it. Low level combat is called luck.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:46 AM   Top  -  End  -  #103
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So my post got lengthy...sorry about the lack of spoiler tags and the long delay on the post, I take a night time sleep aid so staying up much later after taking it proves difficult. Also Mondays and Wednesdays will be very buys for me and I will have little to no time to post.

Alan you said you wanted to stop using numerical XP, what about for things that cost XP like permanency spells, how do you want to handle that?
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:51 AM   Top  -  End  -  #104
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Well, my vote is that we use XP, but Alan decides the amount of XP independently of combat. That way, spells like say... wish, still have their drawback.

Although, aside from the epic level NPC's, there is not anything that is badly handled by xP in this campaign. Just us RP XP instead of combat xp in some cases, such as the Glistig, or Tarith bluffing the mummies.

if it seems too complicated, just use this tool

Or course, when Xander gets 9th level spells, a +5 bonus to all stats without drawbacks would be nice...
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:58 AM   Top  -  End  -  #105
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Tarith, I'm looking at those spell you talked about, does anyone have any use for my 2nd mage armor at the moment or should I switch that off as well? also with out bishop enlarge isnt really worth it either so that will be going, willthink about the curse, as other spells could be better but my 3rd lvl is still lacking.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:05 PM   Top  -  End  -  #106
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I don't think so. Both Tarith and Dantie use armor, so you might as well get rid of it.

Third level spells I like
Stinking cloud(aoe nauseate, nice bfc)
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Dragonskin(10 min/level, +5 nat armor, 20- resistance to an energy type
Dispel Magic(Always handy)
Unluck: Make an enemy roll twice, you choose lowest roll.
Fly: No caster should be without it
Slow: Like Haste, but more defensive.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:41 PM   Top  -  End  -  #107
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I will not be able to get on tomorrow as well until late at night. Will be out all day. He ended up killing them all though, had to try it like three times but he got it. And I quite enjoyed XP for the fact that 1 level every 50 pages or so seems a bit lacking. Defiantly in the next chapter. If there was something to offset the level we may gain extra then I am fine with the new system.
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:33 PM   Top  -  End  -  #108
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So my post got lengthy...sorry about the lack of spoiler tags and the long delay on the post, I take a night time sleep aid so staying up much later after taking it proves difficult. Also Mondays and Wednesdays will be very buys for me and I will have little to no time to post.

Alan you said you wanted to stop using numerical XP, what about for things that cost XP like permanency spells, how do you want to handle that?
The numerical XP will be for actual leveling up. I find it simpler to assign certain points when the PCs go up a level, such as the ending of a chapter (this one is close to an end), or certain specific plot points in the campaign. So now, for instabce, you have gone up a level. Just write on your character sheet the minimum required to be at your current level + 2000 xp in case you decide to use some spell that requires XP.

Certain spells and actions demand XP, this will be deducted as normal, per the rules written in the books.
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #109
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alan are you posting? Going to be heading to work real soon and may be my last post till tomorrow night.
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:42 PM   Top  -  End  -  #110
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@Dantie: Just posted. Guess who's getting a traveling companion to Hammerbruk?
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:09 PM   Top  -  End  -  #111
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Was rather hoping the spider would get in range. Hopefully, slaughtering little spiders will accomplish something then.

Things to consider: upgrading to a ring of greater blink
Issue: Price 5*9*1800=81000 vs 27000
and... for a continuous ring: 5*9*4*2000=360000
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:19 PM   Top  -  End  -  #112
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The main spider isn't too difficult. An easy kill. She does have a few tricks up her sleeve, but nothing you can't avoid. Jacob may have to use his move action to get away from the swarm. I believe it's a move action, or is it a full round?
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:20 PM   Top  -  End  -  #113
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Technically, he can take a 5 foot step to get out of the swarm.

Effectively, it occupies 4 squares, and once you are not in those squares, you are fine.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:32 PM   Top  -  End  -  #114
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Good thing rangers get evasion. Now it's you two vs. the big spider.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #115
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He just shot her 3 times. Time to wrap this up!
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We are apparently one big evasive family :)
I think it is now Jacob's turn, unless that was the spider's second turn.

So... any hints as to how much health the spider has left?
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:43 PM   Top  -  End  -  #117
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The spider is almost dead. Instinct would have it retreat, but I have a feeling you want those blades fused to her legs.
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so... dagger throwing time? Will it try to move, or should I go?
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Jacob was first, then it was you, followed by the spider, so if you want to throw your dagger, go for it. I assume a thrown weapon does not get the blink bonus?
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A thrown weapon does indeed get the blink bonus, and Tarith has some seriously bad aim apparently.
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