14th Black Crusade - OOC

[Henry the 57th]

My character is viciously practical. Which is why he's Unaligned. He thinks that mindlessly dedicating oneself to one god over another out of blind faith or doctrine, when it's obvious that they all have something to offer, is no different than what the Emperor's slaves do.

His two main emotional weak points are his obscene hatred for the Imperium (which means he will take greater risks than usual if he thinks it will hurt it) and his overwhelming pride and independence (which means he will refuse to even fake a pledge of allegiance towards someone who isn't Horus, or even kneel to them).

[watupwithdat]

Originally Posted by Henry the 57th

Anywho, I hope my new reading material contains some useful spells or rituals or somesuch.

He should have asked the Lord of Change to teach him something when he had the chance. Instead he wanted him to track someone down and fetch a staff like a dog.

[Henry the 57th]

Originally Posted by watupwithdat

He should have asked the Lord of Change to teach him something when he had the chance. Instead he wanted him to track down someone and fetch a staff like a dog.

Do you honestly think a LoC would give me any secrets? I thought that a physical endeavor might have a greater chance of success. Also, I don't trust this guy further than I can see him.

[watupwithdat]

Originally Posted by Henry the 57th

Do you honestly think a LoC would give me any secrets? I thought that a physical endeavor might have a greater chance of success. Also, I don't trust this guy further than I can see him.

Could have bargained for it just like with the favour he wanted him to do. ^^

[Henry the 57th]

Originally Posted by watupwithdat

Could have bargained for it just like with the favour he wanted him to do. ^^

Maybe. But then, he's one of Mr. "Just As Planned"'s daemons, so I'll be surprised if he doesn't pointlessly screw us over at least once.

[watupwithdat]

Originally Posted by Henry the 57th

Maybe. But then, he's one of Mr. "Just As Planned"'s daemons, so I'll be surprised if he doesn't pointlessly screw us over at least once.

I suppose that's a possibility. Though I don't think they're spiteful by default. Hell, might actually play into some scheme of his to tell you want you want to know. ^^ Impossible to know. xD

I seem to recall the book mentioning somewhere among the fluff about a daemon teaching someone a ritual to transport to another world. Or quite possible it could have been in one of the example modifier boxes for the forbidden lore skill or another skill.

[Henry the 57th]

Originally Posted by watupwithdat

I suppose that's a possibility. Though I don't think they're spiteful by default. Hell, might actually play into some scheme of his to tell you want you want to know. ^^ Impossible to know. xD

I seem to recall the book mentioning somewhere among the fluff about a daemon teaching someone a ritual to transport to another world. Or quite possible it could have been in one of the example modifier boxes for the forbidden lore skill or another skill.

Tzeentch and co. have a tendency to pointlessly screw over people who make deals with them. Remember the story of the rogue Imperial Governor under siege by the Dark Angels. The Changeling offered him a device that would "end the siege" in return for his daughters' souls. He agreed. The device turned out to be a teleport homer for the Deathwing Terminators. The siege ended very quickly.

It's the Cat's Cradle in Tome of Fate.

[watupwithdat]

Ah, I found it. It was on page 308 among the example services you could get with an infamy test.

[Henry the 57th]

One last question for our dark overlord, DrK: do we get any experience, corruption, or infamy for slaughtering everyone who didn't flee from this temple and encountering a Greater Daemon?

[Lucretia]

"Being present at the summoning of a Greater Daemon exposes the character to such baleful energies that he gains 1d5 Corruption Points. Additionally, gaining the services of the daemon may be worth 1-2 infamy." Depending on your definition of summoning, we may be entitled to corrupted compensation, but I don't think we'll get the infamy.

[watupwithdat]

Originally Posted by Lucretia

"Being present at the summoning of a Greater Daemon exposes the character to such baleful energies that he gains 1d5 Corruption Points. Additionally, gaining the services of the daemon may be worth 1-2 infamy." Depending on your definition of summoning, we may be entitled to corrupted compensation, but I don't think we'll get the infamy.

"A grand and terrible warp entity takes interest in the psyker’s soul, escending from the warp to seize the mortal’s body for its own purposes."

Going by that the daemon goes after him by his own volition, so I doubt that counts as a summoning... Unless you count the act of going overloaded on warp energies as a summon in the sense of an invitation. It's up in the air I believe.

The infamy is probably only if it's summoned in a ritual, and you are able to bargain a deal with it. But I suppose perhaps the 'quest' he offered maybe was one..? Hum.

[Henry the 57th]

I wonder if this counts as a "scene", xp-wise.

[Lucretia]

It was a nice little compact (as in size, not as in a Com-pact. It was comp-act) vignette. I would adore experience for it, since it was a good introduction, but it might be part of the overarching 'introduction scene.' So the scene would technically resolve after we spoke with Vashraladdin the Snuffly, Warlord of this World.

I'll get the names in my head eventually, but until then, you'll have to bear with my gratuitous incorrectness.

[watupwithdat]

In any case we now know that Host of Fiends can be quite dangerous when Fear tests and other various WP tests are involved.

Intimidate people for even more!

[Henry the 57th]

Originally Posted by Lucretia

It was a nice little compact (as in size, not as in a Com-pact. It was comp-act) vignette. I would adore experience for it, since it was a good introduction, but it might be part of the overarching 'introduction scene.' So the scene would technically resolve after we spoke with Vashraladdin the Snuffly, Warlord of this World.

I'll get the names in my head eventually, but until then, you'll have to bear with my gratuitous incorrectness.

No idea. But since it was based upon the fact that I passed an unlikely test, I would guess it counts as a scene. But of course it's up to DrK whether it was or not.

"Vashraladdin the Snuffly". Heh. Guess what he shall forever be known to my mind as.

[Lucretia]

"Well hey there friends! Don't mind me, I'm just gonna RAPE AND PILLAGE THESE FERTILE IMPERIAL LANDS!"

[Henry the 57th]

[DrK]

Originally Posted by Henry the 57th

Ok. Does it count as any rarer for being a focus and being good-quality, as far as trading goes?

Originally Posted by watupwithdat

And assuming it's an actual psy-focus in the shape of a staff, it'll give you +20 if it's best craftmanship.

Surely you mean +5.
Psyfocus (avg +10), good quality (-10) = 0, but minimum +5 varied by the local trading conditions. (the good quality staff component is a +20 availabilty, so pretty common)

Originally Posted by Henry the 57th

By the way, DrK, what were "Master Vissilch's holy words"? What kind of doctrine was he preaching?

By the way, Lucretia, Mekboy, you might want to use this opportunity to rid some of the guards of their weaponry, like that melta or bolt guns or somesuch.

He had 3 texts. 2 pretty common ones about the Changer of Ways and one copy of Ahriman's musings on the thoughts on Sorcerery. THere was nothing remarkable about the Tome (~scarce availability. Maybe easier in this area. But would be rare in the Imperium)

Originally Posted by Henry the 57th

One last question for our dark overlord, DrK: do we get any experience, corruption, or infamy for slaughtering everyone who didn't flee from this temple and encountering a Greater Daemon?

For what was an unexpected little scene...

Infamy:- 0 (you didn't summon it or kill champions of the dark Gods
Corruption:- (1d5-2)[0] (minimum 1) for being near the greater demon
XP:- 250 for defeating the temple and treating with the demon

Originally Posted by Henry the 57th

I agree.

[Henry the 57th]

Forbidden Lore (Daemonology) test to see about this Lord of Change. Spending 1 Infamy to add +10 to the test.

(1d100)[48] vs. 42

Edit: Darn.

[Henry the 57th]

Originally Posted by DrK

He had 3 texts. 2 pretty common ones about the Changer of Ways and one copy of Ahriman's musings on the thoughts on Sorcerery. THere was nothing remarkable about the Tome (~scarce availability. Maybe easier in this area. But would be rare in the Imperium)

I keep them all and put them into my inventory. Maybe do a bit of light reading of Ahirman's musings on the way down.

Would the daemon be mad if I smashed the pulpit?

Also, what kind of doctrines did our sorcerer preach that got this mob so excited to get themselves burned to death trying to reach us?

For what was an unexpected little scene...

Infamy:- 0 (you didn't summon it or kill champions of the dark Gods
Corruption:- [roll0] (minimum 1) for being near the greater demon
XP:- 250 for defeating the temple and treating with the demon

0 Infamy, 1 Corruption, and 250 xp? Got it.

I agree.

That is pretty funny.

[Henry the 57th]

I'm spending 100 of my new xp to purchase the Precision Telekinesis power. Now, I can yank a gun out of someone's hand. More importantly, I can grab an enemy from a distance (and throttle him, ideally). That coward won't be getting away so easily next time, with my telekinetic hand around his throat.

[Mekboy]

Corruption: (1d5-2)[0]

I think I'll keep the exp unspent for now.

[watupwithdat]

Originally Posted by DrK

Surely you mean +5.
Psyfocus (avg +10), good quality (-10) = 0, but minimum +5 varied by the local trading conditions. (the good quality staff component is a +20 availabilty, so pretty common)

Yeah, I had a brainfart. Though it seems you had one too.

Originally Posted by Mekboy

Corruption: [roll0]

I think I'll keep the exp unspent for now.

I think he rolled corruption for all of us.

[Lucretia]

DrK, your modifier for trading is incorrect.

You invert the sign, so any negative modifier becomes positive, and any positive modifier is either dropped or simply adds 5. Good (+10) + Common (technically -10, +5 thanks to the rules) equals +15.

Now, what's the most important thing I can get for 250 experience...

[Henry the 57th]

I guess I'll try agin for that Best Craftsmanship Conversion Field:

(1d100)[52] vs. 26 (Trade Legion Power Armor, Staff, both books on Tzeentch)

Edit: Nope.

[watupwithdat]

Were we not supposed to ask DrK before we tested for stuff what was available and tradeable for that particular item? Some kind of houserule about that atleast, I believe.

[Henry the 57th]

Originally Posted by watupwithdat

Were we not supposed to ask DrK before we tested for stuff what was available and tradeable for that particular item? Some kind of houserule about that atleast, I believe.

Were we? Even if so, it hardly matters to me - I failed both times.

[Lucretia]

Oh, that's true. I'd forgotten about that departure from RAW. Well, if the hood isn't available to be found, or the individual who has it doesn't want weaponry and ammunition, then I didn't get the hood.

I figured it could be explained as trading the items to urchins who guided him to a corpse which wore the hood. It's the most flavorful explanation, I think.

[watupwithdat]

Originally Posted by Lucretia

I figured it could be explained as trading the items to urchins who guided him to a corpse which wore the hood. It's the most flavorful explanation, I think.

Which is perfectly in line with what the book says an infamy test to acquire an item should be.

[Lucretia]

Precisely so.

It's just better than picking it up from a bazaar.