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Old 02-13-2007, 03:20 AM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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After some deliberation on recent threads where people see fit to explicitly state that they will not mention a certain fallen paladin (thus contradicting themselves), and where they do mention her in threads that are obviously started with the intent of talking about someting other, I have formulated the following Law:

Zentei's Law
  1. As an online discussion on the Order of the Stick forum grows longer, the probability of Miko Myazaki being mentioned approaches unity.
  2. He who mentions her in a disparaging way when irrelevant to the thread topic loses the argument.
That is all.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:24 AM   Top  -  End  -  #2
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So let it be written.
So let it be done.
and then let it be edited a few times afterward...

I choose to lose!

Miko is a dirty, rotten, no-good, Shojo stabbin' biotch!

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Old 02-13-2007, 03:27 AM   Top  -  End  -  #3
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Okay, I think I can get behind the revised version there.

I like Miko and all, but the original prevented legitimate criticism of her. Good change.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:30 AM   Top  -  End  -  #4
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Okay, I think I can get behind the revised version there.

I like Miko and all, but the original prevented legitimate criticism of her. Good change.
Yah, I really hadn't intended to eliminate valid, on-topic criticism, merely hater bandwagons.

Only I realized that it might be misinterpreted. Thus the revision.


EDIT: I have now added the Law to my signiature.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:45 AM   Top  -  End  -  #5
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I am going to invoke part 2 of Zentei's law as often as I can, just because it's there.

Partly because I see your Attempt To Influence Forum Behavior By Imposing On Others' Impressionability (Or is that Impressionableness? Maybe I need a better word.) and raise you a Concept Used Too Often Becomes Meaningless.

Also partly because I think the results will be amusing.

Is there a "Zentei's Law Fanclub"? If not... one should be made in SMBG. :evilgrin:
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:48 AM   Top  -  End  -  #6
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I am going to invoke part 2 of Zentei's law as often as I can, just because it's there.

Partly because I see your Attempt To Influence Forum Behavior By Imposing On Others' Impressionability (Or is that Impressionableness? Maybe I need a better word.) and raise you a Concept Used Too Often Becomes Meaningless.

Also partly because I think the results will be amusing.

Is there a "Zentei's Law Fanclub"? If not... one should be made in SMBG. :evilgrin:
If nothing else, it specifies "when irrelevant to the thread topic".

Thus the only way you can make it meaningless is if somehow hijacks and red herrings become a-ok. Good luck with that.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:54 AM   Top  -  End  -  #7
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Damnit, I shoulda thunk o' this.
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Old 02-13-2007, 04:36 AM   Top  -  End  -  #8
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Zentei's Law[list=1][*]As an online discussion on the Order of the Stick forum grows longer, the probability of Miko Myazaki being mentioned approaches unity.
Technically, the probablity of ANYONE being mentioned increases... afterall, as discussions go on, there is no real telling where it might digress

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Old 02-13-2007, 04:39 AM   Top  -  End  -  #9
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If nothing else, it specifies "when irrelevant to the thread topic".

Thus the only way you can make it meaningless is if somehow hijacks and red herrings become a-ok. Good luck with that.
You specified "mentions her in a disparaging way", which can easily be done as an aside with every post I make. It'd only be as difficult as you say if you had specified "hijacks the thread and provokes a heated argument about her". Not that I'm averse to the idea.... The levels of subtlety and guile required would make an interesting challenge. XD
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Old 02-13-2007, 04:40 AM   Top  -  End  -  #10
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first, Technically, the probablity of ANYONE being mentioned increases... afterall, as discussions go on, there is no real telling where it might digress

Second, Miko is more like the flavor of the month... a lot of the story and specualtion has revolved around her in recent pages, and thus poeple want to talk more about it; the same is about true whenever ANY character gets some good spotlight... i wouldn't be surprised if there was alot of Elan/thog talk back when he was busting out of jail and on his way to save the day(speculation on how he did it, why Thog was in a leprchaun suit). Some time away from Miko, and all the talk of her will die back down to the normal levels, until she does something major again. it's just a fad really...
Looks like someone failed their "sense humour" check. This thread is a reference to Godwin's Law.

Yes, obviously the probablity of anyone being mentioned increases. For some characters, it just happens more rapidly than for others. Also, as I pointed out, this is a dig at hater bandwagons.

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You specified "mentions her in a disparaging way", which can easily be done as an aside with every post I make. It'd only be as difficult as you say if you had specified "hijacks the thread and provokes a heated argument about her". Not that I'm averse to the idea.... The levels of subtlety and guile required would make an interesting challenge. XD
An aside would violate the law, of course. That being part of the point. ;)
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:22 AM   Top  -  End  -  #11
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Oh goody. But now I'm having trouble... How do you define "irrelevant to the thread topic"? Does the mention of her need to be completely and entirely unrelated, with no apparent or specified connection between Miko and the thread's original and/or current topic, or will a loose/distant/obscure connection be sufficient?

Edit: Oh, or is it the disparaging part that needs to be irrelevant? Is it impossible to violate the law in a thread meant to be disparaging against Miko?

I'm having an intellectual crisis.
And it's all Miko's fault.
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:23 AM   Top  -  End  -  #12
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I'm having an intellectual crisis.
And it's all Miko's fault.
Miko is infuriating that way. Utterly insufferable.
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Old 02-13-2007, 09:37 PM   Top  -  End  -  #13
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Like Coffee_Dragon said, though, "All threads should be about Miko."

But it did get a little out of hand for awhile... I just look forward to more comics with her in them. They're my favorites.
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:10 AM   Top  -  End  -  #14
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It's like if Gowin read the comic!

Here's Nevrmore's Law, which is completely irrelevent to OOTS:

"Everyone who gets in an argument over the internet believes they have a phD in psychology and have the right to exercise their opinion of anyone who earns their ire."

Seriously, the chances of somebody getting told that they weren't loved enough as a child and that they lash out because they are a closested homosexual or something is like five times greater on the internet than anywhere else.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:03 PM   Top  -  End  -  #15
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I never liked Miko, except when her cloak was still over her head and she was just a mysterious, cool stranger.
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"reaches unity" ??

Huh?
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:33 PM   Top  -  End  -  #17
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"reaches unity" ??

Huh?
Unity = 1.

As in, 100%.
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Unity = 1.

As in, 100%.
Oooooo. Hadn't heard of it used that way yet.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:52 PM   Top  -  End  -  #19
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Miko is worst than Hitler.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:58 PM   Top  -  End  -  #20
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Oooooooooh! Godwin's law has been invoked too!

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Old 02-14-2007, 01:15 PM   Top  -  End  -  #21
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And here I wanted to say Nazi, ninja, pirate, Hitler, Stalin.




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Old 02-14-2007, 02:13 PM   Top  -  End  -  #22
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Wait, so is this like the Nazi law, where in any argument/debate if someone uses the term Nazi, his argument is immediately discounted and disqualified?
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Old 02-14-2007, 02:17 PM   Top  -  End  -  #23
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unfortunatly this is a law meant to protect the use of the banned reference for when its ACTUALLY valid, but then prevents its use
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Old 02-14-2007, 02:36 PM   Top  -  End  -  #24
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Josh the Aspie's Law:

As a given person, character, or philosophy provokes more flames and off topic posts, the likelihood of someone creating a derivative of Godwin's law devoted to said entity approaches unity.
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Wait, so is this like the Nazi law, where in any argument/debate if someone uses the term Nazi, his argument is immediately discounted and disqualified?
It's called Godwin's Law, not Nazi Law.
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Old 02-14-2007, 06:11 PM   Top  -  End  -  #26
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No. Godwin's law states that the mention of Hitler approaches one as an argument continues.

The idea that the first person to mention Hitler loses is NOT Godwin's law, it's just a principle that's been accepted as a way to curb Godwin's law's inevitability.
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