Radikalskippy's Random Banter #85 of lost ideas and where to find them...

[Saithis Bladewing]

She's got Titans all over SOMETHING alright.

*Bouncing up and down from anticipation for SC2.*

[Raistlin1040]

That's obscene! But kind of funny

[Khantalas]

Originally Posted by Saithis Bladewing

She's got Titans all over SOMETHING alright.

From left to right: The Greek Titan, the Egyptian Titan, the Norse Titan, the Atlantean Titan and... the TROUSER TITAN!

Ahem... Moving on with the usual RB now.

[Saithis Bladewing]

I'm made of absolute funny. ;D

[Raistlin1040]

I thought you were made of radishes and lols?

[Malmagor Andrigal]

I thought you were made of volatille stuff...

[Saithis Bladewing]

I'm actually made of shadows, death, and an infinite explosion generator.

[Raistlin1040]

Nope. It's definantly radishes and lols.

[ChomZ]

here's a few theories of mine on why everyone should get along:

• We all have knees, lets get along
  
• Nobody doesn’t not disunderstand the uncomunativeness of this sentence….
  Not! Lets get along
  
• Hey ho! Lets go (and get along)
  
• Everybody’s good at something, for example, I knew a guy that was really good a patience.. but I think everyone can master getting along.
  
• We all have hair, lets get along (and kick the bald guys out)

pass that around.. maybe people will start getting along

[FdL]

Originally Posted by Amotis

I know I'm kinda late on the ewwy bug bandwagon...but check this out.

(Okay...not for the weak of heart...or willy people...or really, it's best not to look at all)

Spoiler

I'm actually not sure on the name...but whoa, huh?

Pic rules. In a fascinating though scary way.
But, did you take the pic yourself? Because I know I wouldn't like to get under that. :s Or in the same room? Well.

And oh, they are potentially poisonous TOO?

[Raistlin1040]

It'd be cool if the spiders were arranged in a freaky demonic writing. Like they spelled out something like "We rest in the fires of hell. Satan comes for you!"

[zombie chick]

Originally Posted by Raistlin1040

It'd be cool if the spiders were arranged in a freaky demonic writing. Like they spelled out something like "We rest in the fires of hell. Satan comes for you!"

thats a good idea, sell the rights to a movie producer and make a fortune

[Raistlin1040]

Yeah, but then Steven King would try and kill me for making a good horror movie that's not his.

[FdL]

Originally Posted by ChomZ

here's a few theories of mine on why everyone should get along:

(...)

• We all have hair, lets get along (and kick the bald guys out)

*clears throat* Now, mister, let's not discriminate bald people because they are persons too, with feelings. Only that for a random reason they have less hair in their heads than the rest.

Originally Posted by Raistlin1040

It'd be cool if the spiders were arranged in a freaky demonic writing. Like they spelled out something like "We rest in the fires of hell. Satan comes for you!"

Sure, but that's hardly necessary to be horrifying. You know, reality is often scarier than fantasy. Because it's real.

Originally Posted by Saithis Bladewing

*Bouncing up and down from anticipation for SC2.*

Yay! When it comes out let's all play together ^^

[Raistlin1040]

Demon Spiders are real!

[zombie chick]

Originally Posted by Raistlin1040

Yeah, but then Steven King would try and kill me for making a good horror movie that's not his.

hes not the president of them, you would just have to hire body guards, film the ensuing action scenes and then sel that and make more money

[Saithis Bladewing]

Originally Posted by FdL

Yay! When it comes out let's all play together ^^

When I'm done with the campaign and playing with my s/o, sure.

[bosssmiley]

Originally Posted by Raistlin1040

Nope. It's definantly radishes and lols.

Wait. What? Are you saying Saithis is a Fraggle?!

Originally Posted by Saithis Bladewing

*Bouncing up and down from anticipation for SC2.*

Agrees that Blizzard should be worshipped for SC2 (and Diablo... and Warcraft...).
"Rednecks in Spaaaaaaaaaaaace!"

[Raistlin1040]

Yes. Yes I am.

[FdL]

Originally Posted by Raistlin1040

Demon Spiders are real!

Demons Are Real.

Originally Posted by Saithis Bladewing

When I'm done with the campaign and playing with my s/o, sure.

Ok, I guess I'll play the campaign too. Though they usually bore me.

And also I'm soo getting Spore when it comes out. And Fable 2. I really don't care for much more regarding games nowadays. Just a couple of games like that.

[Amotis]

Originally Posted by FdL

Demons Are Real.

[Saithis Bladewing]

Originally Posted by FdL

Ok, I guess I'll play the campaign too. Though they usually bore me.

Heretic! Heathen! You must be destroyed in the name of greater Blizzard storylines around the world!

[FdL]

Originally Posted by Amotis

You know, sad as it might sound I knew you were the only person in this forum to get that reference :p

Originally Posted by Saithis Bladewing

Heretic! Heathen! You must be destroyed in the name of greater Blizzard storylines around the world!

I have to say it's with almost any game. Single player becomes a chore at one point. It becomes "work". That's the reason why I never finished Baldur's Gate II.

With RTS this is clearly because of the way the designers have of handling difficulty: they don't make the enemies smarter, as a real person would be. They can't do that, so they make it unfair. As in "Level X, you begin with two peasants and they have full unit progression and 3 bases". And that's no fun really. Challenging, but not very fun.

A pity because I do enjoy SP storylines and recognize that it's important to play SP before MP with most games.

I might finish Frozen Throne some day. But for me it's a much better MP game than what the SP experience offers.

[Vonriel]

FdL, if they made an AI that was truly hard, it would cheat, because past a certain point, it would only be tough if it knew what you were doing and how to counter it. Note that tougher computer opponents cheat to become that tough; for instance, an "impossible" computer opponent in WC3 gains 2-3 times the normal amount from resources, and I think builds units faster than normal.

[FdL]

Originally Posted by Vonriel

FdL, if they made an AI that was truly hard, it would cheat, because past a certain point, it would only be tough if it knew what you were doing and how to counter it. Note that tougher computer opponents cheat to become that tough; for instance, an "impossible" computer opponent in WC3 gains 2-3 times the normal amount from resources, and I think builds units faster than normal.

I don't want a hard AI, I'd prefer a realistic AI. Game AI's are designed not to cheat, because obviously the computer know everything about you and has to be "handicapped" to take away that advantage. And act as if it didn't have the extra knowledge it has.

It's always harder to play with a human because they are unpredictable. AI's are fairly easy to beat, and they are good at building and managing resources and troops in realtime, but they lack the drive, creativity and projection a human always uses.

But as AI's are easy, they need to boost them in unfair ways, that's my complaint.

[The Great Skenardo]

Originally Posted by FdL

I don't want a hard AI, I'd prefer a realistic AI. Game AI's are designed not to cheat, because obviously the computer know everything about you and has to be "handicapped" to take away that advantage. And act as if it didn't have the extra knowledge it has.

It's always harder to play with a human because they are unpredictable. AI's are fairly easy to beat, and they are good at building and managing resources and troops in realtime, but they lack the drive, creativity and projection a human always uses.

But as AI's are easy, they need to boost them in unfair ways, that's my complaint.

I've had only a little bit of coursework touching on this subject, but creating a "realistic" AI for RTS games is incredibly difficult and involved. Even restricting the AI's knowledge due to the "Fog of War" is difficult, because not only do you have to carefully manage what it knows, you also have to teach the AI to do things like send out scouting parties and patrol, and even that is subject to a great deal of conditional things. It gets to the point where trying to teach the computer to make intelligent choices based off of restricted knowledge is incredibly difficult.
the much simpler solution is to make the computer cheat, to some degree. Hopefully, you manage to strike some balance between computer stupidity and cheating that provides a reasonable challenge without getting to SoulCaliburIII levels of ridiculous cheating.

[FdL]

Originally Posted by The Great Skenardo

I've had only a little bit of coursework touching on this subject, but creating a "realistic" AI for RTS games is incredibly difficult and involved. Even restricting the AI's knowledge due to the "Fog of War" is difficult, because not only do you have to carefully manage what it knows, you also have to teach the AI to do things like send out scouting parties and patrol, and even that is subject to a great deal of conditional things. It gets to the point where trying to teach the computer to make intelligent choices based off of restricted knowledge is incredibly difficult.
the much simpler solution is to make the computer cheat, to some degree. Hopefully, you manage to strike some balance between computer stupidity and cheating that provides a reasonable challenge without getting to SoulCaliburIII levels of ridiculous cheating.

I know. So it looks like there's scientific basis for me enjoying multiplayer RTS more than single player campaigns. In a tactical, pure gameplay way, of course.

[The Great Skenardo]

Also, it's more fun to know that a real person is cursing the lameness of your Zerg rush even as it sweeps across her base

[FdL]

Originally Posted by The Great Skenardo

Also, it's more fun to know that a real person is cursing the lameness of your Zerg rush even as it sweeps across her base

It sure is!!! ^^

And you know? It's infinitely better with some friend or someone you know.
That's why I understood Saithis' post saying he wanted to play with his girlfriend first. I'd totally do the same if I had a gamer girlfriend.

And basically that's why I want to play with you people. Let's fire Hamachi and have a team game of Warcraft 3 (TFT). I promise to suck (as if I could do otherwise).

[Saithis Bladewing]

Originally Posted by FdL

And you know? It's infinitely better with some friend or someone you know.
That's why I understood Saithis' post saying he wanted to play with his girlfriend first. I'd totally do the same if I had a gamer girlfriend.

*Slap!*

Gender pronouns.