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Old 08-25-2007, 11:38 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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New Iron Poet!

Rules, shamelessly stolen (for the most part) from Fat Daddy's Iron Author:

1) Only the first 16 respondants expressing a desire to compete will be the contestants it is a first come, first served basis.

2) The contest will consist of 4 rounds pitting 2 randomly determined authors against each other.

3) Each matchup will be given a theme, subject, or other criteria to write on, and the poem submitted must match this as much as possible. Stricter following of prompts may help you win.

4) The winner as determined by a panel of judges will advance to the next round.

5) In case of a judge or judges not posting judgments in a timely manner, I will adjudicate and determine the winner.

6) The stories will be limited to 1000 words with a 50 word minimum

7) The entries will be poems. All forms of poetry are acceptable, as long as they meet the required word lengths. If your chosen style is too short, you are free to make two of them, i.e., you may make a limerick with 48 words, then add another limerick, still following the same theme, to reach the required word length.

8) All posted deadlines will given in as much time zones as possible, as labeled.

9) No late entries will be accepted. If you don't post or fail to post by the deadline, you will be disqualified.

10) If your entry does not include the article(s) and the picture(s), you will be disqualified.

11) The judgments are final. What the judges decide is how it is.

12) The entries will only include content suitable for the Playground. The Giant is nice enough to share his Playground with us and we will respect his rules while playing here.

13) I will rule on anything I have forgotten or needs clarification which is brought to my attention

14) The contestants will have 1 week from the bracket posting to get their entries posted.


Once 16 people sign up, deadlines and brackets will be posted.

EDIT: Judges are also needed, as much as we can get. Odd numbers are needed for tiebreakers, so after five judges sign up the recruitment will be cut off.


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Participants
1. Mr. Saturn
2. ZRS
3. averagejoe
4. Amotis
5. rubakhin
6. Methodical Meat
7. Ravyn
8. Brickwall

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2. Eugar
3. Canti

ROUND TWO

ZRS vs. Amotis: machine, house, actor
rubakhin vs. averagejoe: soldier, jealousy, game (electronic)

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The time between Tuesday, October 2nd, 11:59 pm EST (eastern standard time, new york i.e.) and Wednesday, October 3rd, 12:01 am EST. This is the midnight of october second.

Reminder: this time is in east coast USA time (EST). Use this website to determine your deadline specific to your timezone if you are not sure which time this is where you live.
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:41 PM   Top  -  End  -  #2
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I wanna try! =D
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:42 PM   Top  -  End  -  #3
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Yay! New contest!

I'm in.
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:42 PM   Top  -  End  -  #4
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Who is this Fat Daddy guy, and why does he presume to run my contest.

Sign me up! My understanding of poetry is more intuitive than anything, so I feel that I did a poor job as a judge, except perhaps in timing. So I figure that I'll get my hands dirty this round. Also, it's a poetry contest, so when I start a sentance with a coordinating conjunction like that, it's A-OK!
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:43 PM   Top  -  End  -  #5
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I'm in as contestant. If anyone has any problems with me participating in IP2 because of my time problems judging IP1, let me know.
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:45 AM   Top  -  End  -  #6
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Who is this Fat Daddy guy, and why does he presume to run my contest.
Well, I copy pasted the rules from the old one, and I did steal them when FD was still running it.
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:51 AM   Top  -  End  -  #7
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Hm... I'm kind of torn right now. On the one hand, I'm pretty sure I promised I would be judging in this contest sometime in the middle of the last one.

On the other hand, I really want to win one of these contests at some point...

*sigh* Put me down as a judge, with the understanding that I may change my mind in the near future. Perhaps several times.
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:53 AM   Top  -  End  -  #8
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I'll do it. I'm nervous about writing in English, but I haven't been writing a lot of poems on my own and seem to need motivation.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:40 AM   Top  -  End  -  #9
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I'll do it. I'm nervous about writing in English, but I haven't been writing a lot of poems on my own and seem to need motivation.
I can help you with grammar and word choice if you need it. Seems only fair.
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:22 AM   Top  -  End  -  #10
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Nah, I lived in America for a while when I was younger and learned as a native, so I can put a sentence together just fine. I just don't really write poetry in English and I'm more worried whether or not my style translates well. Thank you, though.
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:28 AM   Top  -  End  -  #11
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Well, I tried last time, and I'll try again this time. And I still remember that sonnets do not win contests.
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:38 AM   Top  -  End  -  #12
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Well, I copy pasted the rules from the old one, and I did steal them when FD was still running it.
Yeah, so did I. I didn't mean anything serious by it.
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Old 08-26-2007, 12:04 PM   Top  -  End  -  #13
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Nah, I lived in America for a while when I was younger and learned as a native, so I can put a sentence together just fine. I just don't really write poetry in English and I'm more worried whether or not my style translates well. Thank you, though.
Oh ok, never mind then.

Oh and I know, joe.
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I'm game. Hopefully I'll do a bit better this time, the first competition hopefully helped me work out some kinks.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:22 AM   Top  -  End  -  #15
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I'm in as well, though don't expect me to be able to do anything before Tuesday; I've got a long train ride in my very near future.
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Old 08-29-2007, 11:56 AM   Top  -  End  -  #16
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Well, I tried last time, and I'll try again this time. And I still remember that sonnets do not win contests.
I've been staring at this for a while, not sure whether or not I should say anything.

But you need to know that your last statement is completely untrue. Sonnets are a restrictive form, yes, but this does not mean you can't win a round with one. The problem with your last attempt wasn't that you wrote a sonnet; it was that you did not take enough time to consider the effects of the limited space on your message.

You need to be careful when writing in restrictive poetic forms. The goal is not to write the poem within the limitations of the style, but to take the style and wrap it around your poem. If you take the time and keep this in mind, than anything (even a series of haiku) can win this contest.

All of this isn't necessarily directed specifically at Brick; I've noticed a predominating attitude, both here and elsewhere, that seems to show a disdain for anything that isn't free verse, and I wanted to say something from the other side of the fence...
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:04 PM   Top  -  End  -  #17
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The crows ruined Lenin's Brickwall's economy. Damn them.

Should we advertise this more? I see mostly familiar faces only.
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:12 PM   Top  -  End  -  #18
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The crows ruined Lenin's Brickwall's economy. Damn them.
Huh?

Seriously, huh? That's just...not making sense to me.
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take the style and wrap it around your poem.
Sooo... my poem is a hot dog? And my style is a bun? (And then I eat it.)
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Old 08-29-2007, 02:59 PM   Top  -  End  -  #20
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Sooo... my poem is a hot dog? And my style is a bun? (And then I eat it.)
Your poem is the fillet mignon. And your style is the bacon. And then I eat it.
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:43 PM   Top  -  End  -  #21
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I like poetry
I am not the best at it
What the hell. I'll join.
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Your poem is the fillet mignon. And your style is the bacon. And then I eat it.
In Soviet Russia, poem eats YOU.

I don't know why it had to be said, but it had to be said.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:17 PM   Top  -  End  -  #23
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Your poem is the fillet mignon. And your style is the bacon. And then I eat it.
What the heck is fill et mig non? I know what bacon is, though. I can totally wrap whatever you want in bacon.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:36 PM   Top  -  End  -  #24
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Filet mignon is French for "damn good cow meat". Seriously, look it up. I took enough French to be more than certain of this.Okay, it actually means "steak fileted in the mignon style", but that's just literal.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:41 PM   Top  -  End  -  #25
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At PhoeKun's suggestion, I am willing to be a judge. While I may not be very active on this forum, I am in frequent contact with PhoeKun and have been assured that I will receive subtle reminders and/or explicit threats to post my judgments in a timely manner.

Just as a background for those curious, I am a senior (undergraduate) Computer Science / Classical Languages (Latin and Ancient Greek) double major with a Mathematics minor. I have next to no formal training in (English/modern) poetry; however, there seem to be no requirements for judging except timeliness of judgments and strongly suggested explanations of judgments, which I certainly can do.
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:47 PM   Top  -  End  -  #26
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If PhoeKun says you'll be a good judge, I trust him. PhoeKun may be mean sometimes, but he knows his poetry.

But be more timely than PhoeKun. PhoeKun was the slowest judge in IA4
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:32 AM   Top  -  End  -  #27
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Huh?

Seriously, huh? That's just...not making sense to me.
Lenin blamed the fall of his economy on crows once.

Make the connection?

Meh, obscure and caustic (and communist). I think I just went a step in EE (elitist evil).
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Lenin blamed the fall of his economy on crows once.

Make the connection?

Meh, obscure and caustic (and communist). I think I just went a step in EE (elitist evil).
I'm insulted that you think I could be insulted that easily. Do you know who I am? I'm the motherweaseling BRICKWALL!
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And you're as smart as a brick.
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And you're as smart as a brick.
Someone as clever and original as you deserves a medal. We have this nice one that has concentric red and white rings. Just put it over your heart, and everyone will know exactly how to treat you.

*puts another tally under "people who have used that stupid line"*
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