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Old 01-13-2008, 05:36 PM   Top  -  End  -  #61
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:23 PM   Top  -  End  -  #62
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:35 PM   Top  -  End  -  #63
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No it's not, Trazoi said he/she will make some more...for advanced stuff, like spellcasting and stuff...
Yes, I apologise for not having done so yet. I've been juggling a few too many things at the moment, and with the weather being pretty hot this side of the equator it's sometime hard to muster up some creative energy. I'm also planning a webcomic of my own, so I've been spending a bit too long trying to design characters in pencil; I should get back to using Inkscape!

I'll make a note to put a few hours into improving the tutorial this week (and try harder to actually stick to the promise this time!)
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:50 PM   Top  -  End  -  #64
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We're looking more and more like we need a subforum aren't we?

I wouldn't complain, it'd still be a smaller selection of threads to compete against if every one of them was a webcomic, I think there are fewer webcomic threads than Arts & Crafts threads...
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:09 PM   Top  -  End  -  #65
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We're looking more and more like we need a subforum aren't we?

I wouldn't complain, it'd still be a smaller selection of threads to compete against if every one of them was a webcomic, I think there are fewer webcomic threads than Arts & Crafts threads...
I'm surprised at how many comics are run here. It's hard to tell what's a comic and what's not by the title alone!

In my case I've got my own drastically underused hosting plan already (that's where my tutorial lives) so I won't be using up a forum slot when I go live. Plus the comic isn't really OotS related in style or premise so it doesn't really belong here.

I'm a bit uncomfortable writing about something I'm months away from launching (with a fair chance of never seeing the light of day), so I'd better drag this back towards OotS Inkscape matters.

@jimblee, Festy: Those are really good: very OotS in style!
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:28 PM   Top  -  End  -  #66
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Soooooo...

*Cricket, cricket*
Any chance of those guide updates in the foreseeable future?
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:40 PM   Top  -  End  -  #67
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Soooooo...

*Cricket, cricket*
Any chance of those guide updates in the foreseeable future?
Yes, sorry. Not only have I been swamped by work but I've had a series of computer problems (I'm also in the process of buying an iMac partly because of this). If I can get Inkscape working stably under Leopard I'll see what I can do this weekend (hopefully I'll have got my iMac by then). It takes ages to write a tutorial, so I doubt I can get it done before.

Sorry about the delay; I'm in the midst of wrapping up my thesis, so I've got a lot on my mind.
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:50 PM   Top  -  End  -  #68
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Don't rush. It would be better to wait a while for a tutorial on the calibur of the first.
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:57 AM   Top  -  End  -  #69
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Hi,

I'm new to both this forum and inkscape, and I've made my first vile doodle, but when I attempt to save it in a format acceptable by imageshack/photobucket, none of them appear to work. Also, exporting as a bitmap seems to make it much grainier. How do you host your inkscape drawings?

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Old 02-01-2008, 12:03 PM   Top  -  End  -  #70
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We just export it as Bitmap and upload it on Photobucket...and it does not mess up...
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Old 02-01-2008, 12:37 PM   Top  -  End  -  #71
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Oh, okay, thanks.

I never tried uploading it, I just made a bitmap copy to test it, and that (perhaps slightly predictably) screwed it up. I'll try uploading it.
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Old 02-01-2008, 12:50 PM   Top  -  End  -  #72
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hey good guide. do ya think you could go over hoods?
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:54 AM   Top  -  End  -  #73
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The good news is I've got and set up my new iMac computer. The bad news is that as far as tutorials go it has taken all the time I had on the weekend just to get Inkscape running under Mac OS Leopard; it must have taken about a dozen tries of various different software versions and script hacks just to get it to run, and then a dozen more to get the keyboard working properly. It didn't seem that hard under Tiger, and much easier under Windows XP...

I think it's running now, although it's shown signs it might be as unstable as a man standing on a street corner with a bazooka and his underpants on his head. If it holds up I'll start working on some new tutorials through this week.
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Old 02-03-2008, 05:21 AM   Top  -  End  -  #74
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I think it's running now, although it's shown signs it might be as unstable as a man standing on a street corner with a bazooka and his underpants on his head. If it holds up I'll start working on some new tutorials through this week.
Now there's an interesting mental picture...
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Old 02-03-2008, 08:09 AM   Top  -  End  -  #75
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My first inkscape creation guided by your guide, I went differently somewhere around the boots.
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:27 AM   Top  -  End  -  #76
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Looks good, Dallas! Though the eyes are too... circley (yes I know I just made up a word, so sue me.)
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(I did the eyes completely as in the guide)

Qeustion : Whats the shortcut for turning things again?
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Old 02-03-2008, 10:22 AM   Top  -  End  -  #78
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(Ok. Just a comment.)
H flips horizontally, V flips vertically, and there are rotate buttons on the far left of the toolbar in select mode. I don't think there's a shortcut, though. Oh, and clicking an already-selected object (or group) lets you free-rotate, and moving the plus lets you choose from where.
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I'm actually getting some issues with the resizing of my new one... I don't know if I put too much into it, or what:



See what I mean? Is there any way I could get that fixed, or will I have to go through the whole thing and make a bunch of little edits here and there?

I do hope this thread is where I'd post this...
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See what I mean? Is there any way I could get that fixed, or will I have to go through the whole thing and make a bunch of little edits here and there?
I'm not sure what the problem is as I don't know what the original looked like. Vectors should scale well when you enlarge or shrink the image; that's one of their strengths.

Off the top of my head, there could be a few solutions to your problem:
  • Are you resizing in Inkscape, or using another tool like The GIMP or Paint.Net? If you're using a raster tool (one that uses little pixels to make the image) for any touch-ups it's best to export a really large image from Inkscape and scale down; that way you'll avoid the worst of the resizing problems.
  • One other problem with resizing within Inkscape is if you haven't set the toggle button for scaling the stroke correctly (that's the lines on the outside of the shapes). It's a toggle button on one of the toolbars above the ruler; you need to set it to scaling the stoke in proportion to the image if you want to rescale exactly.
  • If you have any non-vector images in your Inkscape file then you'll still get problems with resizing. Is that clock done in Inkscape or did you import it? In those cases, it's best to use a really large image as well.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:34 PM   Top  -  End  -  #81
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I did it all in Inkscape, and I had the rescaling all set up right... Heres an enlarged version, in case it helps:
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Maybe its something to do with the thickness of the lines, or something..?

Or maybe I'm just neurotic, nutters, and picky-nits to no return?
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:45 PM   Top  -  End  -  #82
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The resizing seems to be fine; is it just you're unhappy with the result?

You could try changing the clock face to a shade of grey rather than white (or maybe grey-purple; that goes well against yellow), and maybe changing the gold rim on the clock to some other colour; since your character is also heavily based on yellow and white she might stand out more against something a bit darker.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:49 PM   Top  -  End  -  #83
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Oh.. well,, thanks.. How embarrassing

I can't tell if its comforting or not to know that it was all in my head

I guess I'll have to work the image around 'till I get something that doesn't make me feel ill
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No worries; I'm the same. I spend ages fixing tiny little bumps in the image, forgetting that at the end I'm going to be shrinking the thing down to a quarter of the size where no-one can see that level of detail anyway.

Also, here's a crudely retouched version of your avatar I did with the GIMP to see how it looks with a slightly purple clock; I was hoping to make the clock fade a bit into the background and make your character stand out a little bit more:
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Not sure how you like that; I think the magenta rim is a bit too garish, but you might want to play around with the colours and see if you like it a bit better.
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I've uploaded a new page to the tutorial, covering exporting images to PNG files. I'll try to add a new page every day or two this week.

Here's the link to the tutorial page again.
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Nice, though I knew most of it already
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It does seem to be a recurring issue though, there must be at least half a dozen posts/threads around here about issues uploading SVG files to Photobucket and the like.
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That page was one I meant to include at the end of what I wrote originally, but I ran out of time. As a consequence there have been a number of confused people about what to do with their SVG files when they're finished. Plus I thought the technique of using a rectangle to choose where to take the selection might not be particularly obvious, and the use of pngcrush isn't that widespread but is very useful, especially if you've got a file size limit on your avatar or if you're making a webcomic.
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the PNGcrush thing i did not know...but yeah, I usually use the rectangle to save
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Second Inkscape creation :
For boo the hamster, a paladin'y hamster...thing...
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