i have to agree, it was really lame how much time they spent on chasing sasuke... i like shippudin more, much more intensity, also naruto finally asks sukura out (lol failure)
As WT said, it's an above average shonen series, but the plot for me has lost a lot of its steam, especially the manga chapters released last year; the main character is still annoying and too impulsive in cases where he should take his time, many of the deaths of both heroes and villains were poorly handled and lose any emotional value I can attach to them. I also did not like what happened to Sai. It's one thing to make him to relate to why Naruto is (almost stupidly) hellbent to 'rescue' Sasuke but the author didn't need to make him jump on the 'starry eyed admire at Naruto' wagon. A quiet, rational 'anti-Naruto' voice would have made the team dynamics more interesting. The fighting is still pretty godd, though there are a few plotholes and plot induced stupidity here and there.
I thought everyone was an antiNaruto that's what made him "special." Btw, what plot holes are there? I haven't been reading the chapters very closely. Guess Naruto being such a moron compared to everyone else is one...
Give me Basilisk over naruto for ninja action.
But yeah, naruto is really losing steam, and if that interview with the mangaka is correct, we still have quite a bit to go with Sasuke. Another half a year to a year.
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I like it, but there's too many stupid parts. I prefer Death Note and Bleach.
You don't like a crappy immature anime meant for 16 year old boys and prefer another crappy anime meant for 16 year old boys and one meant for 16 year old girls with self esteem issues?
sorry
My personal tastes express themselves as hostility, apologies. More to the point though, what is the appeal of the naruto dbz bleach archetype of of anime? (that being the 5 episode long fighting scenes type) I've always preffered giant robot myself, especially stuff like 08th MS team where there is a marked lack of angst ridden teenage boys.
(as a side note if anyone can find more GR type anime sans the whining let me know)
anyway those are my rambling incoherent thoughts
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Possible the worst main character i've ever seen, with the possible exception of Sora. What kind of ninja were orange
Also we have the wanna be, ineffective loner king and the girl who doesn't do anything. god
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Bleach isn't great, but it at least tries, you can tell the writer is trying to make a good manga
Death note is sick, can't compare. One main character is an immature little kid who can't focuse, the other is a ruthless, sociopathic zealot with a god complex.
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You don't like a crappy immature anime meant for 16 year old boys and prefer another crappy anime meant for 16 year old boys and one meant for 16 year old girls with self esteem issues?
sorry
My personal tastes express themselves as hostility, apologies. More to the point though, what is the appeal of the naruto dbz bleach archetype of of anime? (that being the 5 episode long fighting scenes type) I've always preffered giant robot myself, especially stuff like 08th MS team where there is a marked lack of angst ridden teenage boys.
I somewhat agree with you hence why I prefer One Piece of the big shonen anime. Also on non-whiny Giant Robot anim...ation. Try Megas XLR.
Also Bleach is not great, the artist seems to have gotten bored and decided to repeat the SS arc in Hueco Mondo. I hate copypasta.
I have only seen a little(only the english version and only at friends houses), and I maintain that it is okay provided you realize that A, they are not ninjas they are wizard acrobats. Ninjas don't wear orange jumpsuits and throw fireballs. and B don't listen to naturo's voice.
At my school there are a few major Naurto fanboys, at one point one tried to convince me that what they do isn't magic. It was almost amusingly pathetic.
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Thinks of a way to defend shounen action shows........fails miserably
Current Shounen Shows I am watching:
Minami-ke
Spice and Wolf
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Shakugan no Shana
Best shows are the ones that only last one to two season at max
(anime season is 12 episdoes)
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You don't like a crappy immature anime meant for 16 year old boys and prefer another crappy anime meant for 16 year old boys and one meant for 16 year old girls with self esteem issues
Well it's was really meant for 10 year old boys, and... lets not talk about the girls who like it lest we awaken the yaoi fandom.
And... Naruto is tolerable only in manga form. His anime voice (any version) is... painful at best.
I liked the first three seasons of Naruto, up to the point of Third Hokage dying - after that, it went downhill, still not bad though up until the whole "chase after Sasuke" thing started, when it started to get boring. I prefer Bleach in the "unending shonen" department, and even it was slightly ruined for me when I compared it to Avatar, which is an anime with the best fight choreography I've ever seen, and is not even made in Japan.
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You don't like a crappy immature anime meant for 16 year old boys and prefer another crappy anime meant for 16 year old boys and one meant for 16 year old girls with self esteem issues?
Well it's more for 10 year old boys, and lets not talk about the girls lest we invoke the yaoi fandom, but oddly I think you got the age right there.
Incidentally I only read the manga since I can't stand the Naruto voice... any of them.
I liked the first three seasons of Naruto, up to the point of Third Hokage dying - after that, it went downhill, still not bad though up until the whole "chase after Sasuke" thing started, when it started to get boring. I prefer Bleach in the "unending shonen" department, and even it was slightly ruined for me when I compared it to Avatar, which is an anime with the best fight choreography I've ever seen, and is not even made in Japan.
totally seconded, i hate the fact everyone assumes Americans can't make good shows
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Uggh. Can't stand Avatar. It annoys me. I'm not sure why, but it just isn't all that good in my mind.
Anyway, I like Bleach because 1) Ichigo is a WAYYY better main character than Naruto, and 2) It's pretty good for an anime.
Death Note is fantastic. It's a brilliant manga. Too bad the anime is only like 37 episodes long.
I quite like avatar, puts Naurto to shame
Death note was a great manga, and the first 26 eposides were great, but after that ug, i hate near. Accully, the second half of the manga as well.
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I feel like some old geezer when I have to mention Batman: The Animated Series, and Gargoyles when people say that.
Agreed. Never got into Gargoyles, but Batman TAS ruled. Mark Hamil is the best villain VA ever. Which is another reason Avatar rules(Hamil is the Firelord). And indeed Avatar does put Naruto to shame. Really it puts pretty much most anime and most normal shows to shame. There aren't many shows that can completely **** conventions and pull off something as stunningly unusual and well done as the season 2 finale.
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I stopped caring about Naruto a long time ago. I still do an RP based on the setting (though I play a Bard for satirical reasons) and I am familiar with the IGN board. At the most I'll look on Wikipedia once in a while to see what's new with the series.
Also that picture makes me think of this...
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Your stereotypical ninja dresses in all black, says nothing, and kills people within 3 seconds. This would make the show very boring. Ninjas dont have epic battles, they sneak around until one se the other, a knife is thrown, and then its over.
The 1 year finding-sasuke arc was filler to give the manga writers time to get the manga far enough in front of the anime. Just skip it and watch the shippuden episodes. None of the episodes affect the main story line.
Death Note was ok but finished horribly.
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Bleach is alright, I honestly cannot see what possible problems can be found.
As for american cartoons, most are geared towards the 6-12 year-olds. After that, kids are expected to move up to sitcoms, reality shows and the like. Japanese toons are geared for anywhere from 6-18+ if you know what I mean.
When Naruto came over here, it was butchered by the censors, given horrible voice actors, and marketed to 10 year-olds. (I personally would have preferred subtitled japanese).
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