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Old 10-06-2008, 01:57 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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Not much to say besides that. Yesterday was my first time DMing and I killed a party member and brought two others into negatives. Suggestions for next time. (I see this going to ways: a. make it easier, or b. find ways to kill them all next time).
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How did said character die, what was the adventure. For all I know your player insisted on taking levels in commoner and tried to do battle with a housecat.
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If this is CoC i think this is supposed to happen. What setting is this and was the encounter scaled?
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We're going to need more details than that. Almost killing a player can be due to player incompetence, luck of the dice (let it happen) or you bringing out something that slaps 'em around more times than not.

Also, I'm of the personal opinion that semi-frequently almost but not quite killing PCs is the sweet spot at which they become constantly convinced they are in danger without you having to actually do too much else or actively trying to make their lives miserable. It's sort of like a carrot on a stick, only the carrot is a trick candle inside of a hollowed out stick of dynamite and it's being held right behind them.
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Not much to say besides that. Yesterday was my first time DMing and I killed a party member and brought two others into negatives. Suggestions for next time. (I see this going to ways: a. make it easier, or b. find ways to kill them all next time).
Can you give a bit more detail on how/why you ended up killing one PC and dropping 2 more? Also which edition are you playing? There are lots of reasons that this kind of thing can happen and if we all knew a bit more we could be more helpful.

Edit: Oh the ninjas!
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How did said character die, what was the adventure. For all I know your player insisted on taking levels in commoner and tried to do battle with a housecat.
I would love to see that fight!
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How did said character die, what was the adventure. For all I know your player insisted on taking levels in commoner and tried to do battle with a housecat.
Or worse, took a levle in wizard and took on a housecat!
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Get better players?


Nah but really, which game is this? DnD? CoC? If the former, try less enemies or more chances to recover, or just cut them the occassional break. If the latter... you're doing just fine.
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Or worse, took a levle in wizard and took on a housecat!
You're still getting acid spit at you for around 1d6 or so damage.
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Or worse, took a levle in wizard and took on a housecat!
Mer? One Magic Missle should drop snuggles.
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Mer? One Magic Missle should drop snuggles.
'Snuggles' had one eye replaced with a Shield brooch and the other casts disintegrate at will.

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Safe to say that I'd be surprised if I met a cat with a shield broach who cast disintegrate out of his good eye.
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'Snuggles' had one eye replaced with a Shield brooch and the other casts disintegrate at will.

What now?
The wizard wets himself and runs from the horribly level inappropriate doomkitty of course.
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super derail while waiting for a response huh?
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Safe to say that I'd be surprised if I met a cat with a shield broach who cast disintegrate out of his good eye.
He also doesn't have a tongue. It was replaced with a Wand of Isaac's Greater Missile Storm.

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It can't see! Kill it! Kill it!
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I smell a meme in the making. Snuggles the death kitty.

Now, someone will come with a pseudonatural infernal undead shadow who-knows-what-else housecat or something, and we'll have the cuddlier version of the mutated Crab .
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Not much to say besides that. Yesterday was my first time DMing and I killed a party member and brought two others into negatives. Suggestions for next time. (I see this going to ways: a. make it easier, or b. find ways to kill them all next time).
So far it sounds like you're doing it mostly right. However, what should have happened, or should happen in the future, is that there should always be one lone survivor of the party who has caused the death of at least one other party member(preferably all of them). I guarantee that if you do this it will make the next session [i]very[/i[ interesting, and players will definitely remember it from a long time to come. Keep up the good work.
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Damn! I knew I should have taken that Darkstalker feat when I had the chance! Damn Snuggles.... Damn you Snuggles!
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I smell a meme in the making. Snuggles the death kitty.

Now, someone will come with a pseudonatural infernal undead shadow who-knows-what-else housecat or something, and we'll have the cuddlier version of the mutated Crab .
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Hit Dice: ½ d8+19 (28 hp)
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Speed: 180 ft. (36 squares)
Armor Class: 91 (+2 size, +15 Dex, +12 insight, +12 luck, +40 natural), touch 51, flat-footed 81
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/+28
Attack: Claw +62 melee (1d2+35)
Attack: Tentacle +62 melee (2d8+35)
Full Attack: 2 claws +62 melee (1d2+35) and bite +60 melee (1d3+35)
Full Attack: Tentacle +62 melee (2d8+35)
Space/Reach: 2½ ft./0 ft.
Special Attacks: Constant Insight, Improved Grab, Rotting Constriction
Special Qualities: Low-Light Vision, Scent, Spell-like Abilities, Resist (Fire, Cold) 10, Resist (Electricity, Acid) 15, DR 10/epic, SR 40, Fast Healing 20, Epic Strike
Saves: Fort +24, Ref +25, Will +23
Abilities: Str 40, Dex 40, Con 35, Int 18, Wis 37, Cha 22
Skills: Balance +15, Climb +17, Hide +16*, Jump +15, Listen +13, Move Silently +17, Spot +13*
Feats: Stealthy, Weapon Finesse(B), Multiattack (B)
Environment: Temperate plains
Organization: Hopefully alone
Challenge Rating: 31

Snuggles receives a +10 competence bonus on all skill checks, and a +8 racial bonus on Hide checks.

Spell-Like Abilities: At will - blur, dimension door, shield, unhallow (CL 35); 3/day - greater dispel magic, haste, see invisibility (CL 15). DCs are Charisma-based

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At will, Snuggles can take the form of a grotesque, tentacled mass, but all its abilities remain unchanged despite the alien appearance. Changing shape is a standard action. Other creatures receive a -1 morale penalty on their attack rolls against Snuggles in this alternate form.
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Somehow Fax, I just knew you'd come through on this one.

You should add the disentigrate at will bit and the brooch of shielding too. Not sure how that'd effect the CR.
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I'd add Titanic before those two, for extra feats and only 5 lower dex.
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Alignment: CE
You forgot that bit.

I wonder what OP will say when he checks back the thread...
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And hear your screams for pain after the greater missile storm lands. Assuming you live.
You won't live. But, Snuggles is not without mercy. Snuggles wears a collar of True Resurrection.
Snuggles is also not without a sick sense of sadism. He raises you, only to kill you again.
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Okay, next time I run a campaign? I'm upping Snuggles's Int and HD and making him my BBEG. Possibly with a Great Wyrm Red Dragon he uses as a heating pad.

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This line made me spit coke out of my nose.

Maybe give Snuggles blindsight?
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keep up the good work.
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