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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
Lix Lorn
He was also capable of sucking up my entire attack routine and killing me with over half his health left. I don't know how.
Turtle form gives lifesteal. That lifesteal stacks with Spirit Visage (if he had one). Its kinda obscene how much health retention a udyr with Wriglges+Spirit Visage+Maxed Turtle has.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
Dogmantra
He's also a frighteningly competent jungler. I have no idea why I'm the only person to have ever jungled Gragas in a game I'm in.
Any chance you can explain this one? I'd like to go back to playing the fat man and I still don't have a jungler I like.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
Well, I guess he'd do a decent job jungling, if not top-tier. Use his Drunken Rage for AD steroid/damage reduction and go wolves-wraiths-mini golems? Start with cloth armor + health potions? Seems like a safe enough start, for just about anybody.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
Dienekes
Any chance you can explain this one? I'd like to go back to playing the fat man and I still don't have a jungler I like.
Max W, start Cloth 5.
Its actually not that hard. Its just that his laning is slightly better.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
dgnslyr
Well, I guess he'd do a decent job jungling, if not top-tier. Use his Drunken Rage for AD steroid/damage reduction and go wolves-wraiths-mini golems? Start with cloth armor + health potions? Seems like a safe enough start, for just about anybody.
You can actually do a blue start.
I think the best is attack speed marks/armour seals/cdr glyphs/something quints (I think I have armour pen on that page?) taking Drunken Rage at 1, Body Slam at 2, from there I think you can max Body Slam for SICK GANKS and be fine.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
LordShotGun
"Sigh" This is why I usually don't play with you guys.
One game and then I get ditched. I hate solo que and don't often have days off I can play. So when I get invited to play I expect at least 2-3 games.
I seem to recall you switching channels after the first game, and we had another person who wanted in.
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Originally Posted by
Lix Lorn
He was also capable of sucking up my entire attack routine and killing me with over half his health left. I don't know how.
Relevant video is relevant.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
lord_khaine
Ohh, thats a novel setup for a quite unusual jungle choice, what runes do you use to make this work, and what do you build later one, a wiggle?
Whoops, I keep forgetting this thread. Oughta bookmark it. ^^; Sorry for the late reply.
I don't use any special runes, really. Attack speed marks and quints, mana regen yellows, and flat CDR blues. I'd probably do better if I used something else maybe, but eh.
As for items... I dunno. Depends I guess. Wriggle's Lantern is always nice, to be sure. Though I get at least a dagger before I completely build it. It sounds stupid to say this, but AS is pretty important on Kayle.
From there, I.. Never have a "set" build to be honest, but attack speed an AD are always good. Malady or Black Cleaver depending on your team and the enemies' builds, etc, etc. CDR is nice... Like I said, just wing it. Kayle's wicked adaptable.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
Spartacus
Ha ha ha ha, Oh wow.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
Mattarias, King.
Whoops, I keep forgetting this thread. Oughta bookmark it. ^^; Sorry for the late reply.
I don't use any special runes, really. Attack speed marks and quints, mana regen yellows, and flat CDR blues. I'd probably do better if I used something else maybe, but eh.
As for items... I dunno. Depends I guess. Wriggle's Lantern is always nice, to be sure. Though I get at least a dagger before I completely build it. It sounds stupid to say this, but AS is pretty important on Kayle.
From there, I.. Never have a "set" build to be honest, but attack speed an AD are always good. Malady or Black Cleaver depending on your team and the enemies' builds, etc, etc. CDR is nice... Like I said, just wing it. Kayle's wicked adaptable.
Yup. I remember discussing jungle Kayle a couple threads back. I'd either start cloth or regrowth into Wriggles or Philo stone, respectively. I'd use AS reds and armor yellows. I'd typically rush a Revolver as quickly as possible, but yeah, Kayle is Kayle and can build in any number of ways that aren't tank. AS is good, CDR is good, AD and AP are good.
I should try it again with more defensive masteries, since I always seem to drop low until I get that revolver...
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
Calling people with non-Alistar and Cassiopeia Wild West skins: I want to make that team happen. I'm thinking Bandito Fiddle for the jungle, and then some combination of High Noon Twisted Fate or Outback Renekton or Sheriff Caitlyn.
Apparently Sion is flavor of the month now? When did that happen? I think all but one of my games today have featured him. Or maybe it's just me who's getting odd match-ups.
Here's the new thing everyone should try: support Teemo. Free wards, a big "no" button to enemy carries, and uncatchable speed. The nicest thing is that with all of the money I save on wards I can use it for a Frozen Mallet and never ever ever be caught ever. That hidden global taunt's pretty nice, too.
And he's so huggably cute. How could you resist playing him?
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
LordShotGun
"Sigh" This is why I usually don't play with you guys.
One game and then I get ditched. I hate solo que and don't often have days off I can play. So when I get invited to play I expect at least 2-3 games.
Woah. I think I was the person organizing those games. I don't honestly recall you saying much after the game. Plus, a friend of ours logged on. Don't take it personally, and, honestly, don't think that your time constraints have anything to do with it. It's not really fair of you to expect something like that. It's a community of 50-or-so people who have known each other for varying lengths of time.
The server has been fluctuating between 25 and 40 people just this afternoon. Ask to be included in a game. I'm sorry that you feel disgruntled, but actively reaching out is probably a better use of your time than posting something like this.
Of course, that's just like my opinion.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
Spartacus
I seem to recall you switching channels after the first game, and we had another person who wanted in.
I was following woodzowl who was the person to invite me (and I wanted to say hello to lyxie). I then returned to the channel way before you even thought about starting a new game. You all were squeeing over the school girl LoL heroes (which was rather funny).
I did ask if we were playing another game but by that time you already asked the newer person if they wanted to play and got it on.
Bah. No matter. Now I'm just unhappy that the first day I have off after 10 days of 10 hour night shifts got thwarted by miscommunication.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
...sigh...
...the rant I would have wrote in short: bad week of school attempted to be alieved today with 2 games, one as Surprise Party Fiddles and the other as Skarner. Long story short, I was outfiddled (by someone with the same skin no less) and shattered to bits by ganks and a far superior team.
Yeah, if anyone wants a Renekton in their team comp who will destroy people today, I'm more than willing.
I say this because, and rather ironically too, the angrier/more annoyed/just generally pissed off I am, the better I play Renekton.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
Got to play some League this morning for the first time in a month. Played a game of Dominion as Cait. First time I have tried her on TCS.
I. Killed. Everybody. It was awesome. Can't believe I had never tried it before.
Also, I will be on League for about 24 hours strait starting tomarrow afternoon. I want to get as many games in as I can in that time. Who's with me? :smallbiggrin:
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
Spartacus
So... Do I need to go back to considering Udyr? Because you've got to be kidding me. Granted, Ashe, but... that is my kind of lane. I only have seen sustain like that in a lane with AP start Tryndamere!
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
Daverin
So... Do I need to go back to considering Udyr? Because you've got to be kidding me. Granted, Ashe, but... that is my kind of lane. I only have seen sustain like that in a lane with AP start Tryndamere!
It's fairly old and the udyr was fed, i believe. that is in no way normal.
I just had one of those fabled games where you report an entire team. Every one of the enemy team did troll stuff, such as fountaindiving, building sheen on olaf, (this one is just wierd) STACKING MOBILITY BOOTS, building nothing but mana crystals (admittedly she did have a real build that she then sold at the end of game to trade for said sapphires) and taking only a regen pendant to start in the middle as orianna.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
tribble
It's fairly old and the udyr was fed, i believe. that is in no way normal.
I just had one of those fabled games where you report an entire team. Every one of the enemy team did troll stuff, such as fountaindiving, building sheen on olaf, (this one is just wierd) STACKING MOBILITY BOOTS, building nothing but mana crystals (admittedly she did have a real build that she then sold at the end of game to trade for said sapphires) and taking only a regen pendant to start in the middle as orianna.
Oh, was it? I just assumed it was fairly recent given the posting date.
Nothing to see here, folks...
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
tribble
It's fairly old and the udyr was fed, i believe. that is in no way normal.
The Udyr was 0/0/1. However, the Ashe was underleveled, she was Ashe, and Udyr had 73 armor + dodge. It's hard to tell if this is pre-or-post-nerf. It could have potentially been recorded as recently as October 21, and it was only uploaded yesterday.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
aethernox
The Udyr was 0/0/1. However, the Ashe was underleveled, she was Ashe, and Udyr had 73 armor + dodge. It's hard to tell if this is pre-or-post-nerf. It could have potentially been recorded as recently as October 21, and it was only uploaded yesterday.
So basically what I can take from this is assume nothing.
At any rate, I am now thinking on Fiddles. Not sure why, since I don't jungle, and it seems fairly clear laning with him involves some steps that are antithetical to optimal use outside of lane, however good it may make him. Still, 3 second fear and aoe silence, potentially massive damage and health retention, and dat ult. Oh, and his new skin is extremely amusing.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
Daverin
So... Do I need to go back to considering Udyr? Because you've got to be kidding me. Granted, Ashe, but... that is my kind of lane. I only have seen sustain like that in a lane with AP start Tryndamere!
He's still godmode top solo lane.
Edit: for the record I say go Phoenix Udyr and just push the wave. If they gank thats what wards are for. :smallbiggrin:
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
Morello claims major buffs/changes for Olaf in next patch. I'm anxious now. Awesome sounding new champ, potential Olaf bump up... IF they do it right, I may fall in love with this patch.
EDIT: Apparently he is just answering several champ balance questions. Worth note: Expect new passive on Xerath. One suggestion by Morello was the Nid Spear effect.
DOUBLE EDIT: Aaand this, just this.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
My win % in Ranked is now below 50. And I can't even blame bad teams, because I'm certainly not playing above my Elo right now. All I can do is rage at myself and go to bed. Grargh. :smallfurious:
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
Massive Dominion changes in progress, apparently. Sounds simplistic, aimed-towards-the-lowest-common-denominator kinda rework but still interesting.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
tribble
I just had one of those fabled games where you report an entire team. Every one of the enemy team did troll stuff, such as fountaindiving, building sheen on olaf, (this one is just wierd) STACKING MOBILITY BOOTS, building nothing but mana crystals (admittedly she did have a real build that she then sold at the end of game to trade for said sapphires) and taking only a regen pendant to start in the middle as orianna.
Being bad (Sheen on Olaf, I guess, though I kinda can see Triforce a little bit on him, only starting regen pendant) is not a crime, and you shouldn't report people for that unless it's been made clear that they are doing it for the sake of trolling. Just a pet peeve of mine.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
Wow, a Summoner Showcase worth watching. That Sona skin would blow my mind if they made it her legendary skin. She could play "Duel of the Banjos" as her taunt and I would buy it for that reason alone. That and it would be a non-slutty Sona skin that was available to those that missed last Christmas.
EDIT: Image for those too lazy to watch the showcase.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
tribble
It's fairly old and the udyr was fed, i believe. that is in no way normal.
I just had one of those fabled games where you report an entire team. Every one of the enemy team did troll stuff, such as fountaindiving, building sheen on olaf, (this one is just wierd) STACKING MOBILITY BOOTS, building nothing but mana crystals (admittedly she did have a real build that she then sold at the end of game to trade for said sapphires) and taking only a regen pendant to start in the middle as orianna.
Only stacking mobility boots is really a "crime" here, as Dada said. Selling your items at the end is something people do for a laugh and if they have a proper build up 'til that point then they're not really trolling. Regen pendant actually seems like a solid start on Orianna (not as good as boots), and I don't play much Olaf, but I know that Flak really likes getting Sheen on him and I can sorta see why. You do tons of casting and it gives you a slightly larger mana pool.
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Originally Posted by
Dada
Being bad is not a crime,
This needs to be in a little box you have to read before you can report someone.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
Oh man, love Chimera Galio. Fantastic.
Wonder if anyone's going to do a custom skin for that, if Riot doesn't just make it.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
Daverin
DOUBLE EDIT: Aaand
this, just this.
Interesting. "We've created a game mode that's completely different to the base game mode, but we've decided it's too different so we're making it more the same."
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
Re Jungle Gragas
Re: armor pen reds, armor yellow, cooldown blue, health quints (Strict)
Masteries: 1/20/9 is popular as is 1/16/13.
Cloth +5 health pots
EWW
Blue start, do not use E till the golem is alone so you get the full nuke, rember to E across the lane to keep you passive up and to maximize it as well. after level 4 go back and start ganking (gragas is an amazing ganker still even if his overall jungle isn't anymore). Get 6, become a god ganker.
Overall he's a tier 3 jungler, as his transition from the jungle is funky due to him losing his ability to brawl since his FOTM days, but if you can make the transition into tanky ap carry as smoothly as possible your good. Yet know what your getting into, the days where he was one of the best junglers in the game are long past.
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Re: League of Legends XXIV: Today's Noob Strat, Tomorrow's New Meta
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Originally Posted by
Dogmantra
Only stacking mobility boots is really a "crime" here, as Dada said. Selling your items at the end is something people do for a laugh and if they have a proper build up 'til that point then they're not really trolling. Regen pendant actually seems like a solid start on Orianna (not as good as boots), and I don't play much Olaf, but I know that Flak really likes getting Sheen on him and I can sorta see why. You do tons of casting and it gives you a slightly larger mana pool.
This needs to be in a little box you have to read before you can report someone.
Well, you can report someone for Unskilled Player... :smallwink: