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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Qaera
I thought this was a support thread, but you are all spider sympathizers :smalleek: :smallfrown:
I'm not! Let's be arachnophobic together. :smalleek:
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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noparlpf
I do that all the time.
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Deities and Demigods, and Drow of the Underdark, both say "Lolth". I'm looking in 3e/3.5 books.
Oops. I edited to go into more detail, but you ninja'd me... Still, that part stayed mostly the same, so it doesn't really matter.
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*grumbles*
Right then. One more thing on the list of changes to my character's backstory... :smallyuk:
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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C'nor
Oops. I edited to go into more detail, but you ninja'd me... Still, that part stayed mostly the same, so it doesn't really matter.
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*grumbles*
Right then. One more thing on the list of changes to my character's backstory... :smallyuk:
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If you want a second source the war of the spider queen books also use Lolth.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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pffh
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If you want a second source the war of the spider queen books also use Lolth.
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*swears at my eyes*
These are the ones with Lolth having effectively vanished for a while while she's spawning, right? If so, I've actually read one of those, and somehow missed that it wasn't spelled how I thought... :smallredface:
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Qaera
I thought this was a support thread, but you are all spider sympathizers :smalleek: :smallfrown:
*cries in corner*
I really don't like spiders
~ ♅
If only. I never had any kind of special phobia-triggering event like finding a spider in my bed, they just freak me the **** out. And the problem is that they're fascinating. Spiders are really, really cool and interesting and they look so completely alien compared to us mammals, but... they're SPIDERS. So whenever I see one I have to get close and admire its strange but amazing spidery features while also running as fast as possible in the opposite direction. Which is difficult. Perhaps I should invest in a telescope.
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C'nor
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*swears at my eyes*
These are the ones with Lolth having effectively vanished for a while while she's spawning, right? If so, I've actually read one of those, and somehow missed that it wasn't spelled how I thought... :smallredface:
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Yup those are those books
And now for something that (shock and horror) is actually on topic for the thread:
Over the last few weeks (months? possible but not sure) I've been feeling more and more well gay. Not that I've been acting like a stereotypical gay man but my something (longing possibly? attraction? I don't know words are hard!) and it's been bothering me for a while and I'm not happy about it.
One of the reason I'm not happy about it is because I'm bi and not gay and have always leaned more towards women. In fact I've always leaned so much towards women that I've been convinced most of my life that I was straight because I had no problem completely ignoring everything else.
Another reason is that I don't actually know anyone that isn't straight so I haven't really I guess talked with anyone about anything and haven't really done anything about it other then a few measly attempts at going to a gay bar alone (oh god going to bars alone is sooooo boring).
Also I'm allowed to be irrationally annoyed at myself. :smallmad:
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Musashi
Thanks :smallredface:
He's got little free time, no interest in D&D, and is not very motivated to discuss LGBT+ stuff with complete strangers (unlike me, ironically). I respect all this... and also enjoy having a semi-private place for myself.
Yeah, that's not very noble, but since I'm communicating very little about us, I figure it's something I can live with. I enjoy keeping a distance between Meatspace and Internet.
I know the feeling. Sometimes I'd like my partner to be here, and sometimes I like having my own internet home (he lives over on the Privateer Press forums). And then, he's even less motivated to discuss LGBT+ stuff. He's an ally, but, y'know, not one of those crazy allies like Asta. :smalltongue:
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Could be... I'm more familiar with the rest of drow culture than driders; they didn't necessarily come up all that much, and even then usually not in terms of discussion of the reasons behind them and how their minds work. I'll have to do some digging next time I'm poking about at the bookstore/library. And suggestions for where to start looking?
Also, I'd thought it was 'Llolth' (which, if I remember the derivation correctly, would be pronounced 'Hlolth', or something similar...), but you're the second or third person recently to spell it 'Lolth', and while the 4e PHB backs up your spelling, all my recollections (sadly, I don't have the books to hand at the moment, having gotten them from the library) of the Forgotten Realms stuff, which goes into much more detail on the drow, say that mine is right. Which one is the proper spelling? :smallconfused:
I'm not an expert; that was just my reading of them as they appear in Drizzt's early days in Menzoberranzan. My copies of those books spell it "Lolth" too. I'm not especially familiar with the Forgotten Realms source stuff, I'm sure there are more qualified people here!
Edit: Forgot something!
Anyone resident in the EU (or Croatia, for some reason), the good people of the European Union's Fundamental Rights Agency are trying to put together the widest survey of LGBT+ life across Europe, and would really appreciate you taking the time to fill out their survey.
For those interested in the gender question on forms, this one asked "What gender were you assigned at birth?".
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Qaera
I thought this was a support thread, but you are all spider sympathizers :smalleek: :smallfrown:
*cries in corner*
I really don't like spiders
~ ♅
Technically I only sympathize with giant spiders. Smaller ones, not so much. :smalleek: *Hugs*
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Yup those are those books
And now for something that (shock and horror) is actually on topic for the thread:
Over the last few weeks (months? possible but not sure) I've been feeling more and more well gay. Not that I've been acting like a stereotypical gay man but my something (longing possibly? attraction? I don't know words are hard!) and it's been bothering me for a while and I'm not happy about it.
One of the reason I'm not happy about it is because I'm bi and not gay and have always leaned more towards women. In fact I've always leaned so much towards women that I've been convinced most of my life that I was straight because I had no problem completely ignoring everything else.
Another reason is that I don't actually know anyone that isn't straight so I haven't really I guess talked with anyone about anything and haven't really done anything about it other then a few measly attempts at going to a gay bar alone (oh god going to bars alone is sooooo boring).
Also I'm allowed to be irrationally annoyed at myself. :smallmad:
*Hugs!*
~Bianca
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Trilby
Orange looks atrocious on people. This is not up for debate.
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Musashi
There's a lack of
absolutely fabulous insects here.
That photographer is absolutely amazing, even the spider pictures are pretty.
On the subject of animals, I learnt recently platypuses have 10 sex chromosomes. I have no bloody idea how it even works or how frequently intersex platypuses are born (but few things about platypuses aren't puzzling, after all).
1: that mantis is very FABULOUS!!! Also, does that mean Perry is a... (yay for children's shows supporting gender identity?)
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SiuiS
To be fair, common assumption is gay = anal sex, which is a messy affair and disgusting by broad standards. I usually try to get an explanation as to what is sotroublesome before writing them off as not worthwhile, rather than just uneducated.
Honestly, there's just too much preparation required for it to be enjoyable for it to happen that often. I mean the adult media may suggest otherwise, but there is so much work going into that before any "work" can be done. There are plenty of things that are enjoyable that take much less time and effort beforehand.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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KenderWizard
If someone tries to tell my father about their golfing exploits, he says "Listen, I have the same attitude towards golf as I do towards homosexuality. I'm happy for you that you had fun on the weekend with another consenting adult. But I do not want to hear the details Monday morning."
I am totally stealing that line for whenever someone tries to tell me about something I don't care about.
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Personal bugaboo: Why, in every work of fiction I've seen, does anyone who shows any interest in someone outside their normal preferences get immediately assumed to be monosexual the new way.
Willow was pretty clearly not gay, and I'm pretty sure Watson isn't straight, and... Meh.
Because bisexual erasure. In Willow's case, I can kind of justify it by her being in a relationship with someone who's worried that Willow is just experimenting with her sexuality and will end up leaving her for a man, and Willow falling into the habit of reassuring her that yes, she's really gay.
Incidentally, speaking of Willow and Tara, I stumbled across this recently, which I thought was quite interesting. Later season 6 Buffy spoilers.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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noparlpf
So my ex tried to come out as asexual. She's heteroromantic but pretty clearly asexual. And her entire friend group shot her down.
How's she taking it? That's gotta be rough. Are you there for her or was it an ugly breakup?
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Qaera
I thought this was a support thread, but you are all spider sympathizers :smalleek: :smallfrown:
*cries in corner*
I really don't like spiders
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*hug*
I'm creeped out by real ones, but oddly fascinated by fictional ones. Still, watching Shelob in Return of the King, it was all I could do to keep from screaming.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Qaera
I thought this was a support thread, but you are all spider sympathizers :smalleek: :smallfrown:
*cries in corner*
I really don't like spiders
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I would hug you but I feel it might not be helpful in this situation. *airhugs?*
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Qaera
I thought this was a support thread, but you are all spider sympathizers :smalleek: :smallfrown:
*cries in corner*
I really don't like spiders
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Dont cry! *Insert necessary hug amount here*
Spider are the worse! Thou black widows are 20% cooler then other spiders.
Its looks like we are on
*Puts on sunglasses*
the world wide spider web :smallcool: Meh, I tryed
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
The "A" in "LGBTAitp" stands for Arachnid.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Asta Kask
How's she taking it? That's gotta be rough. Are you there for her or was it an ugly breakup?
This didn't happen recently, it was sometime last year I think. She was kind of put out but it's not like she's hugely emotionally invested in being asexual. It's just how she is. And yeah, it was an ugly breakup. But we're cool now.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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pffh
And now for something that (shock and horror) is actually on topic for the thread:
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That sounds tough, I'm sorry to hear you're having a hard time with it. Sounds to me like it's a phase that will pass, but I'm just basing that on my own experiences. We're here for you!
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The "A" in "LGBTAitp" stands for Arachnid.
Finally, the age-old question is answered! :smalltongue:
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Worira
I am totally stealing that line for whenever someone tries to tell me about something I don't care about.
It's a really good line. And it annoys golfers, which I'm all for. :smalltongue:
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
Hey guys, there are people who are really afraid of spiders to the point that even seeing just a picture unprepared can be quite a shock (no, I'm not one of them, but I do know someone). It might be an idea to spoiler such images and include a warning outside the spoiler.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Worira
Because
bisexual erasure. In Willow's case, I can kind of justify it by her being in a relationship with someone who's worried that Willow is just experimenting with her sexuality and will end up leaving her for a man, and Willow falling into the habit of reassuring her that yes, she's really gay.
Incidentally, speaking of Willow and Tara, I stumbled across
this recently, which I thought was quite interesting. Later season 6 Buffy spoilers.
Specific to Buffy, do yourself a favor and don't read the season 8 comics. Willow/Tara can at least be excused with a shrug and "It's a Whedon show". The character development with Satsu is much more recent, and horrifically groan-inducing.
Really, Wolves At The Door in general. They also have racetrope fail, immediately after having a character serve as an over the top racist foil.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
So...one of my best friends (who is also one of my Sergeants) found out I'm bi and is now so freaked out that he threatened to punch me in the face if I continued dating his sister.
EFF. THAT.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Worira
The "A" in "LGBTAitp" stands for Arachnid.
Triple-A. Asexual, allies, arachnids.
It's like insurance, but more neutral.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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TechnoScrabble
So...one of my best friends (who is also one of my Sergeants) found out I'm bi and is now so freaked out that he threatened to punch me in the face if I continued dating his sister.
EFF. THAT.
That stinks. Hopefully he gets over it soon.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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TechnoScrabble
So...one of my best friends (who is also one of my Sergeants) found out I'm bi and is now so freaked out that he threatened to punch me in the face if I continued dating his sister.
EFF. THAT.
That...defines suck. I hope that you can still be buddys by the end of the scenario.
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Reluctance
Specific to Buffy, do yourself a favor and don't read the season 8 comics. Willow/Tara can at least be excused with a shrug and "It's a Whedon show". The character development with [removed because whitetext doesn't work in quotes] is much more recent, and horrifically groan-inducing.
Really, Wolves At The Door in general. They also have racetrope fail, immediately after having a character serve as an over the top racist foil.
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I've read them. That one actually kind of fits with Buffy's habit of being a jerk who tramples all over the emotions of her friends and lovers.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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TechnoScrabble
So...one of my best friends (who is also one of my Sergeants) found out I'm bi and is now so freaked out that he threatened to punch me in the face if I continued dating his sister.
EFF. THAT.
I suggest you tell his sister. Also, if he punches you, call the police. He'll be charged with assault.
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KenderWizard
It's a really good line. And it annoys golfers, which I'm all for. :smalltongue:
If you ever get dragged along for a game, tell them that you really like that weird thing they do at the top of their swing. :smallwink:
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So how about this: my best friend from when I was at grade school moved at the end of that year. We were great friends, and hung out all the time. I was pretty bummed when he left the state, but we stayed in contact for a while. His sister also went to the same school (multi-grade), and she went as well.
In the time it took for me to reestablish contact (he tends to hang out with friends he can physically see), I learned several things:
- He graduated
- His sister graduated from college
- His sister MARRIED
- He lives in Santa Monica, quite a step up
This is the kind of stuff I learn when I don't talk to old friends for years. :smalltongue:
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TechnoScrabble
So...one of my best friends (who is also one of my Sergeants) found out I'm bi and is now so freaked out that he threatened to punch me in the face if I continued dating his sister.
EFF. THAT.
*assumes your relationship is monogamous, because most seem to be*
Point out that it's not even an extra group of people that you're not sleeping around with, since if you were straight you still wouldn't be sleeping with guys.
What, just saying.
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TechnoScrabble
So...one of my best friends (who is also one of my Sergeants) found out I'm bi and is now so freaked out that he threatened to punch me in the face if I continued dating his sister.
EFF. THAT.
:smallfrown: That really sucks. Is it because he assumes bi people are inherently unfaithful or is he just generally sexualorientationist? I hope you and/or your girlfriend can talk him around.
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If you ever get dragged along for a game, tell them that you really like that weird thing they do at the top of their swing. :smallwink:
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TechnoScrabble
So...one of my best friends (who is also one of my Sergeants) found out I'm bi and is now so freaked out that he threatened to punch me in the face if I continued dating his sister.
EFF. THAT.
Well that's got to suck, liking both doesn't mean that you'll need to be copulating with both to be satisfied.
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KenderWizard
:smallfrown: That really sucks. Is it because he assumes bi people are inherently unfaithful or is he just generally sexualorientationist? I hope you and/or your girlfriend can talk him around.
I must admit that I thought that once upon a time. But that was because of one person being the whole group. The first bi guy I liked happened to be a total man prostitute, and a druggie, but that view changed because the next bi guy I liked was a total saint when it came to relationships, but has had quite the interesting life...
I just hope to God that he realizes that when he gets married he will in fact be bisexual, it will not change, it does not shift to meet the gender of your partner, so stop acting like television!
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Hmmm. I can't really think of many sexual acts, hetero-, homo- or otherwise, that aren't pretty messy and disgusting. Perhaps anal sex is a bit more icky because ewww poop, but still... I'd say the main problem is a lack of that comfortable familiarity most people have with heterosexuality that allows them to forget how yucky it can be, rather than any kind of problem with homosexuality.
EDIT: I'm assuming here that you were actually saying that anal sex is objectively gross compared to not-anal sex, if that isn't the case then I blame lack of sleep. I can't think well at the moment.
That... Is actually a pretty big oversight on my part as I tend to agree.
And yes, that is what I was going for, thought not in full coherency.
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So my ex tried to come out as asexual. She's heteroromantic but pretty clearly asexual. And her entire friend group shot her down.
Well that's... Pretty crappy. I don't even know what to say.
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*Is hugged by six arms (my god, that'd be awesome :smallbiggrin:)*
An embrace from a six-armed woman is the only thing I remember from an old comedy movie, "Cabin Boy".
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Qaera
I thought this was a support thread, but you are all spider sympathizers :smalleek: :smallfrown:
*cries in corner*
I really don't like spiders
~ ♅
If it makes you feel better, spiders are acceptable only inversely to their proximity with my face. Minimum measure being about 4 meters before payho freakout.
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@All: You know, that whole discussion involving Willow is much stranger when you get confused and think that the one being referred to is the hobbit-like one. :smalltongue:
Took me until the series was directly named to figure it out >>;
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Could be... I'm more familiar with the rest of drow culture than driders; they didn't necessarily come up all that much, and even then usually not in terms of discussion of the reasons behind them and how their minds work. I'll have to do some digging next time I'm poking about at the bookstore/library. And suggestions for where to start looking?
Also, I'd thought it was 'Llolth' (which, if I remember the derivation correctly, would be pronounced 'Hlolth', or something similar...), but you're the second or third person recently to spell it 'Lolth', and while the 4e PHB backs up your spelling, all my recollections (sadly, I don't have the books to hand at the moment, having gotten them from the library) of the Forgotten Realms stuff, which goes into much more detail on the drow, say that mine is right. Which one is the proper spelling? :smallconfused:
Never heard of that variety of drider before.
For canon, look to Planescape, 2nd edition. It is considered the peak of the material in question. I've also seen her name as Loth, and Lloth.
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Orange looks atrocious on people. This is not up for debate.
pffft noooo. It's just that actual style is so rare these days, people think looking unique is enough. Traffic cone is not the only orange, after all. A nice subtle pumpkin hue can be downright marvelous.
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Honestly, there's just too much preparation required for it to be enjoyable for it to happen that often. I mean the adult media may suggest otherwise, but there is so much work going into that before any "work" can be done. There are plenty of things that are enjoyable that take much less time and effort beforehand.
I suspected as much, but it isn't exactl something most folks are comfortable answering clinical questions on.
Of course, now curiosity compels me to wonder about that whole outside on a blanket under the stars, thing. C'est la vie.
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TechnoScrabble
So...one of my best friends (who is also one of my Sergeants) found out I'm bi and is now so freaked out that he threatened to punch me in the face if I continued dating his sister.
EFF. THAT.
Well, that sucks. Sergeant how? (last time I assumed, bloke was a police officer). Exactly how had is this in general, as opposed to being a friend/superior freaking out at you in private?
Your avatar is also appropriately rad.
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Triscuitable
I suggest you tell his sister. Also, if he punches you, call the police. He'll be charged with assault.
technically correct, but no the most social way of handling it. I feel there is a certain etiquette to be followed in his case, along with a chance the autorities would look the other way, or he would be punished for going over the sereant's head.
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Huh. Lost one.
Yes, for the record, KenderWizard did indeed suggest the signature. I'm exploring options, but that wouldn't work for me; I have just enough synesthesia-type stuff going that it would be ... Like changing my tone and inflection and attitude only for the very last word of a conversation.
I am trying to find a suitable ASCII wizard hat now though :smalltongue:
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I just hope to God that he realizes that when he gets married he will in fact be bisexual, it will not change, it does not shift to meet the gender of your partner, so stop acting like television!
Yes and no. As was said before In this thread; "he used to be bisexual. Now he's monogamous" (implying that once you've got your one partner you shouldn't look around ever, not promiscuity on part of bisexuals).