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2012-04-10, 12:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
*shudder*
SpoilerI think my worst bug-related experiences were accidentally eating some live mealworm larvae because I didn't notice the hatching eggs on the crackers, or the time a tick died in my foot a couple of millimeters under the skin and I couldn't get it out until my body eventually pushed it out a few months later.
As a kid, I frequently had nightmares about bugs crawling all over everything.
Maggots and other blind, mindless, wriggly things really freak me out.
Part of my current aversion to bugs is that they move suddenly, and they're smallish and easy to lose track of when they move suddenly. If they didn't move I'd be more likely to pick them up with my hands, but as it is if I reach for something that moves suddenly I reflexively pull my hands back. A summer or two ago I was up in Maine and I found a smallish Garter snake. And sure, they're constrictors and don't strike as fast as say, cobras or whatever, but if you poke at one it might bite at you, and I can honestly say that I can pull my hand back faster than a snake can strike. If that snake is a Garter snake.
Anyway, what's the problem with comparative simile? I don't think Irish and American culture are quite that vastly different. Besides, I've seen jam-jar lids in all kinds of different sizes, and my hands are probably bigger than yours.
I don't know! And this also happens in real life! I read a really nice piece about same-sex marriage today but it was all about "gay men and lesbians". I'm lucky that I can marry my partner if I want (and he wants) because he was born with a penis. But I'd still love him if he was a woman, but then we wouldn't be able to marry BUT I wouldn't be a lesbian! I suppose you could then call us a "lesbian couple", but I would not be a lesbian. Just like now, we're a "heterosexual couple" but I'm not heterosexual. Non-monosexual visibilty!Jude P.
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2012-04-10, 12:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Oooh, and that's a bad miss.
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2012-04-10, 12:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
Willow proclaimed loudly and often that she was gay. (And felt like the writers trying too hard, TBH, but that's neither here nor there.) Watson is quite vociferous about his being straight.
Which leads to a question. Do we judge sexuality based on action, or on self-declaration? You don't get to have it both ways.
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2012-04-10, 12:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
Driders are hot...
But in the war they will side with the insects!
On the plus side, that last sentence made me picture Willow as Sherlock Holmes with Hermione as Watson. It was silly. X3Recent Homebrew: The Socialite | The Crystalline: Memory Altering Construct Race | Sanguine Hand, a ToB Discipline of blood and cruelty
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2012-04-10, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Generally I'd go by declaration, but it's possible to lie. I could go around claiming to be straight but sleeping with lots of men. Clearly in this hypothetical situation I'm either gay or bi, but not straight.
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2012-04-10, 01:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Generally speaking, I believe it's usually better to go by declaration. If a person insists that they're heterosexual but engages in homosexual relationships, who cares? It's not hurting anyone to let them pick their own label. And it helps avoid the whole "No True Scotsman" problem.
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2012-04-10, 01:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
Well yeah. It's not like somebody lying about their orientation is really a big deal. I just mean for my own thoughts about somebody I'm going to consider them not straight if they sleep with people of the same sex.
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2012-04-10, 01:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Spoilered for length, and to some extent off-topicness:
SpoilerDepends on the lore you follow. Driders are one of the many things that suffer from inconsistencies in portrayal across different sources; some things have the humanoid half as this horrible bloated thing in constant pain, with the spider body being something they most definitely don't identify as part of themselves but are stuck with, while others are more like arachnoidal centaurs and have mental changes in addition to the physical ones. I came across the former description first, so my general assumption about driders is that they're the former unless specifically stated not to be, especially as they're, if I remember correctly, created as a punishment.
Of course, why you'd punish a (generally; I'm aware of the other drow deities, and that some of them follow ones not in that pantheon) spider-worshiping race by making them closer to their deity is something I've never really understood anyway, but it makes even less sense if it's actually not even that bad in the first place...
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2012-04-10, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-04-10, 01:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
Homophobes hate things that are the same being together so much that they will only use long words if their roots and suf/prefixes aren't from the same language. The word "homophobia" was invented with the express purpose of terrorizing them. True story.
Andtwo out of threeone out of two ain't bad!Last edited by Kindablue; 2012-04-10 at 11:25 PM.
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2012-04-10, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yep! n.n
Well, technically I only said that you classify as a horror, not that you're actually horrifying (and that makes some sort of difference somehow!).
'Course, that's also not the case if one doesn't have the legs or the chitin or anything. I'd say you actually fall closer to 'mystical humanoid'.
*So many hugs* I just had a bunch of those orange ladybug-looking things land all over me every morning for a couple of winters. And some really bad flea bites all over my legs that vaguely resembled plague boils. And a severe phobia of parasites for some reason. That last one is probably related to reading those stories by... Who wrote those stories, again? Well, the one with the girl with the freakin' spiders in her freakin' face triggered that one. *shudder*
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2012-04-10, 01:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-04-10, 02:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Because Hermione was portrayed by Watson! :3
And also because I misplaced my SAN in 2003 or so. Still haven't missed it, though. :smalltuna:
On another note, homophobia kind of sounds like people are afraid of humans. Perhaps homophobes are secretly Paranthropus hominids afraid of the competition!Treasured Quotes
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2012-04-10, 02:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerThose are the more common ones, I think. At least, all of the people I've seen play driders have used them, though that could just be because they didn't want to play something with the issues of the first kind.
Any thoughts on how to distinguish between them clearly without basically reposting the clarification above? Since my usage is causing confusion, it seems like a good idea, but since they're technically the same thing, there doesn't seem to be a way too; I'd have to come up with a new word, which then requires that I say what it means...
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@Lea: I don't think that was ever in question.Last edited by Lady Serpentine; 2012-04-10 at 02:20 PM.
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2012-04-10, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
Squeee~
Hope you have a lovely time.
Hi~
Bit sad about their first reactions, but they steered right pretty fast it seems.
Hi! Missed you! *tackleglomps*
Happy anniversary! You should get your boyfriend on these boards sometimes.
That made me laugh so loud.
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2012-04-10, 02:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
So my ex tried to come out as asexual. She's heteroromantic but pretty clearly asexual. And her entire friend group shot her down.
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2012-04-10, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
@Lea: Out of curiosity, are you in the process of getting your username changed?
Would watch that show.
Those experiences are also pretty awful. Stupid tiny animal things.
I dunno, I just couldn't think of anything to compare to except food (maybe I was hungry?) and food is pretty different. I mean, not wildly different, but comes in different sizes and shapes.
I'm with Nope. (Shocker.)
I wouldn't be keeping tabs or anything, but I'd find it weird if someone claimed one thing and acted a different way. Same with anything. Like if someone kept insisting they were a Muslim but went to Mass all the time and never to a mosque. Or if someone insisted they presented as male but wore dresses and make-up all the time. I'd be like "Sure, whatever you say." but think they were a bit mad. But if I had a friend who only ever slept with men but then said that she was actually sexually attracted to women, I'd accept that. Maybe she has some reason for what she does. I can't use a sexualattractionometer to measure how she feels. (Because it would be immoral to do so. )
Driders:
SpoilerI thought it was a punishment because they didn't have much in the way of free will and because although spiders are closer to Lolth than, say, cats are, devout drow are closer to Lolth than spiders.
It makes perfect sense!
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2012-04-10, 02:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks
He's got little free time, no interest in D&D, and is not very motivated to discuss LGBT+ stuff with complete strangers (unlike me, ironically). I respect all this... and also enjoy having a semi-private place for myself.
Yeah, that's not very noble, but since I'm communicating very little about us, I figure it's something I can live with. I enjoy keeping a distance between Meatspace and Internet.Originally Posted by on Dwarf Fortress succession gamesOriginally Posted by Dwarf Fortress 0.40.01 bugs
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Meh, sanity's for the weak anyway. *crab-walks up a wall*
Brain-meltingly adorable (in that sorta flirtatious tone I tend to call people "adorable" in). ^_^
*Gives spider hugs too*
I missed both a' you! *flying suplex-glomp!* >:D
Happy anniversary! You should get your boyfriend on these boards sometimes.
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2012-04-10, 03:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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I thought this was a support thread, but you are all spider sympathizers
*cries in corner*
I really don't like spiders
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;_;
That is terrible.
*Proxy hugs to Noparlpf's ex*
I hope there are at least a few people who won't do that.
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It was excellent? :3
I now have an urge to draw this, or that Sherlock Hermione idea. But it will take almost eightteen hours before I can escape the Educational Facility long enough to do it! D:
On another note *Hugs Helio, Lea, Succubus and everybody else.*
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Sorries. *Hugs*
I am kind of terrified by spiders too. I should probably not be reading all this just before sleeping. ._.Last edited by Mina Kobold; 2012-04-10 at 03:30 PM.
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2012-04-10, 03:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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@All: You know, that whole discussion involving Willow is much stranger when you get confused and think that the one being referred to is the hobbit-like one.
SpoilerCould be... I'm more familiar with the rest of drow culture than driders; they didn't necessarily come up all that much, and even then usually not in terms of discussion of the reasons behind them and how their minds work. I'll have to do some digging next time I'm poking about at the bookstore/library. And suggestions for where to start looking?
Also, I'd thought it was 'Llolth' (which, if I remember the derivation correctly, would be pronounced 'Hlolth', or something similar...), but you're the second or third person recently to spell it 'Lolth', and while the 4e PHB backs up your spelling, all my recollections (sadly, I don't have the books to hand at the moment, having gotten them from the library) of the Forgotten Realms stuff, which goes into much more detail on the drow, say that mine is right. Which one is the proper spelling?
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Ugh. That sounds pretty rough. And idiotic on their part, too.
(Is it bad to want to renounce your species? Not to want to be a different one, just to say 'I am not related to these people!'.)Last edited by Lady Serpentine; 2012-04-10 at 03:35 PM.
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I do that all the time.
SpoilerCould be... I'm more familiar with the rest of drow culture than driders; they didn't necessarily come up all that much, and even then usually not in terms of discussion of the reasons behind them and how their minds work. I'll have to do some digging next time I'm poking about at the bookstore/library. And suggestions for where to start looking?
Also, I'd thought it was 'Llolth' (which, if I remember the derivation correctly, would be pronounced 'Hlolth', or something similar...), but you're the second or third person recently to spell it 'Lolth', and while the 4e PHB backs up your spelling, all my recollections (sadly, I don't have the books to hand at the moment, having gotten them from the library) of the Forgotten Realms stuff, which goes into much more detail on the drow, say that mine is right. Which one is the proper spelling?SpoilerDeities and Demigods, and Drow of the Underdark, both say "Lolth". I'm looking in 3e/3.5 books.Last edited by noparlpf; 2012-04-10 at 03:33 PM.
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