It's probably a mistake of your part, but you didn't put him in the list
Printable View
Amended.
I decided to remove Dispater and the other archdevils, on account of being only accessible to one PrC, and have added the PrC to the list instead.
The WotC Vestiges in posts by "zombiegleemax" will be marked as "by Anonymous".
Simply missed it. Will add.
Y'know, thinking about it, I've never seen a homebrew base class that uses binding. Well, other than the Dabblemaster, but that one is a basket case.
Also, there are currently several threads about making Tier 1 mundane classes, most notably by Ziegander as an outflow of Grod's, which is a twist on his earlier Legend classes (one which is mostly a Fighter Fix, and a later one that is a High Tier 3 combatant). Right now I'm unsure whether they are Tier 1 as aimed for, Tier 2 due to lack of extensive content (might not be necessary to make it Tier 1) or High Tier 3 due to lack of gamebreakers/single-round encounter-enders.
Gotcha. Just started page 4, I'll post what I have once I finish ten pages. That should double the number of vestiges on the list easily.
Edit: Finished the first ten pages and sent the list to Morph Bark. I suggest that anyone inclined to do something similar not do as much in one sitting. The word 'the' doesn't even look like a word anymore to me.
Thank you very, very much Vauron. Your contribution is much appreciated and helps a lot. I'll start work from the back of that huge WotC thread so that we don't do overlapping work. Race ya to the middle!
(Also I amended the Thanks And Credits on the first page for all the wonderful people who've helped.)
Oh my, yes. Took me a week to do all the disciplines last year. I can tell you that I could talk about unarmed strikes and martial arts for a week!
I wont be compiling any pages for a while. I have less time on weekdays.
On an unrelated note, I suspect that level 6 is gonna get really bloated.
Can you tier my temporalist? It's a class that manipulates time on a small scale, enough to be a distinguishing class feature without breaking a campaign. I'm thinking it's around tier 3, but it might be closer to 4.
...I was just thinking about making a Time class... today... called the Temporalist...
Lol.
Morph Bark: Hows the paladin project coming on? been looking forward to it for a bit, hope i don't sound lie i'm bugging you btw.
Can you tier my Summoner? It's in my signature. I was aiming for a High Tier 3 with it, but it may be a little above that, and want a second opinion.
MY SUSTENANCE IS THE SONG OF BATTLE, THE VISIONS OF THE GODS, AND GOOD STORYTELLING
(The amount of times I forgot to eat breakfast or lunch due to a good book or movie have been countless.)
I had that feeling too. I personally have no time on weekends, so that's a fine coincidence. Perhaps as I tackle pages 41-45 there might be other people willing to claim some pages here or there? Who knows.
As it is, it looks more like a Tier 5 to me. It doesn't get nearly enough Powers/Talents, and the Powers it has are either a bit weak, or good later on and very powerful in the early levels, making it a bit of a one-trick pony in the beginning.
Prettymuch, yeah. I've been wanting to do something for Binders since months, so I'm glad I could finally get to it.
I approve.
Hmmm, due to the Calling spells it's probably Tier 2, yeah. Also, take note that Shortened Summoning is worthless, as the Summon Monster/Nature's Ally spells take 1 round to cast, not a full-round action.
Sounds good. :smallsmile:
Your vestige list seems to be missing these three by SilverClawShift (well, technically SilverClawShift's group...): Core, the Guiding Light; Selena, the Corporeal Spirit; and Tevler, the Golden Weaver.
Adding them as soon as I return from the optician. (Time to get contacts and prescription sunglasses.)
I also found my old list of links again on an old external hard drive. I thus found thirteen more vestiges that weren't on the list yet, plus a whole bunch of other unfinished vestiges posted on Minmaxboards based on Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero.
Didn't the minmaxboards also make vestiges out of the characters from BlazBlue?
If so, I haven't been able to find them yet.
The Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero vestiges are here. I currently haven't yet added them to the list due to how unfinished they are. Those that have their abilities finished could get an approximation of their level, and from there on a DC estimate is easy. Special Requirements would not be necessary for the general class-based ones, but would be required for the named characters, plus Prime32 has essentially already said that each of them requires that you are already bound to one of the class-based vestiges. (And as such, none of the named character vestiges should ever be below level 4, as you cannot bind multiple vestiges before level 8, and at level 8 the maximum level you can bind is 4 if you don't have the feat.)
I have, however, added a lot of other things, including official vestiges outside ToM, ACFs, some feats, and at least a dozen more other vestiges.
EDIT: Current count of Vestiges listed at levels 1-8 is 176.
If 176 (!) isn't enough and you want more ACFs, I have a thing. Though I should go over it and do some rebalancing/proofreading.
Seems I mistook the BlazBlue martial disciplines for vestiges.:smalltongue:
Anyway, I found a thread on the old BG forums that had a pdf of the old WoTC fan-made vestiges (from the Let's Make a Vestige thread).
Vestiges
Vauron and others keeping up with the matters regarding the WotC Vestige thread: I've changed the numbers to reflect post numbers rather than page numbers, because a different amount of posts might be showing up per page for different people (I tend to have it set to the maximum amount, for instance). Posts 1-401 and posts 1602-1841 (the last post in the thread) have been checked.
At the bottom of the list of things to add I've also included links to some posts in that thread that gathered up links to all the Vestiges in that thread. I did that before I realized that all the links are now broken, so they're only good as cross-referential material, in case some Vestiges were missed or are no longer in that thread or were remade/renamed.
Added it. Very nice concept.
Cool. Shame the links no longer work, but that's a great effort that they did. I may add that as an additional thing. Otherwise, it's at least available through this thread thanks to you!
Here's another batch of Binder and Vestige related stuff.
First some PrCs:
Apostle of the Green Lady by James Jacobs (then Paizo Editor-in-Chief)
Initiate of the Sublime Void by Garryl
Scion of Malphas by Ramza00
Voidkeeper - Epic PrC by Realms of Chaos
Devotee of Leraje, Knight of Andra, Vestige Scholar of Vecna - Vestige Avatars by Thrantar
Twice-Claimed Soul by MammonAzrael
Pact Scholar by The Demented One
Vestige Cultist by The Demented One
Mischief Maker by Derjuin
The Binder of the Myriad by sreservoir
Pact Bargainer by Blueiji
Base Class:
Blasphemous Preacher by Realms of Chaos
Feats:
Student of Planar History by Thrantar
Touched by Vestige feats by JoshuaZ
Vestiges:
Dragyn, the Student of Space; Josh, the Oft Dead; Streben, the Archangel of Quests; Eclipse, the Godslayer; Deworcin, Sorcerer Extraordinaire by Thrantar
Fey Vestiges by Derjuin (only available via the Mischief Maker PrC)
Salagora, Mother of Undeath by JoshuaZ
Heironeous by NudelJunge
Hextor by Xefas
Erythnul and Fharlanghn by Xefas
Yavillin, King of Cataclysms and Daeminthos, the Mind's Reflection by Golden-Esque
OotS Vestiges plus Banjo, the Puppet God by Cicciograna
Neelia Niuk, Neverending Will and Eiram Van Schaack, Limitless Grace - The Sublime Muses by Germille
Game Settings:
Varahal, the Vestige City by Boci
I have a couple PrC's based off Sentai that I would like a Tier rating for. I was shooting for Tier 3 for most of them except for Mecha Senshi. That one I gave a higher power curve considering the lengthy entry requirements and I wanted to make a Megazord. :smallbiggrin:
I understand that Magical Senshi will be harder to rate due to the wide range of options for the caster entry class. Radiant Senshi also has the same difficulty but not as much due to the smaller range of entry classes.
Magical Senshi (Spellcaster/Sentai hybrid prestige class.)
Mecha Senshi (Iron Man/Sentai hybrid prestige class)
Radiant Senshi (Sentai/Illumination-user hybrid prestige class for use with the Tome of Radiance)
Gigantic Senshi (Kyodai/Sentai hybrid prestige class)
Added everything.
I don't Tier PrCs, but it's funny you come with that now. You see, I've been thinking of collecting PrCs based off Homebrew base classes as a supporting list to the Tiered classes in this thread. I just made a thread for that here and already listed your PrCs there, as well as the Binder PrCs already found.
Toapat makes a spot check: (a 16 is rolled) They are successful
specifically, this falls 2 ways, depending on a ruling i never made:
ruling A: No, they cannot add spells to the book, thus they only have 1 book which is stored in the same dimensional pocket as the Gryphon and its horse jerky/the spirits.
ruling B: yes, they can add spells to the book, thus each book contains 100 pages as standard for spellbook type objects
I'd like to put forward either of the two classes currently in my sig.
Mage is a quick attempt at a fix and might not be worth tiering because of it; I'm not sure if it is quality or "quality".
Werewolf is exactly what it says on the tin.
And in general any comments you have on either of them would be appreciated.
The Ozodrin has been Tiered.
Ozodrin PrCs are forthcoming in the other thread.