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    Quote Originally Posted by RuneboundShade
    What about Disrupt? Your completely forgetting about disrupt...>.>
    Disrupt is suboptimal in 1v1 (Early to mid game is another story). You're better off just using Silence.
    Quote Originally Posted by cd4
    Just a question about silence, does it also stop any energy votes from discharging store energy?
    Yes. The energy is spent, but the vote still counts as 0.
    Quote Originally Posted by TBFProgrammer View Post
    Except that they get to both trap/silence and store energy,
    The choice of Store Energy is to cast Store Energy three times, in place of casting a Major Spell. For the other ones, they cast both that spell and Store Energy.
    I have not joined this game for two reasons:
    There isn't sufficient benefit from working with someone for any true alliance to form,
    Not so. It is important to be secure enough in your position that you do not have to spend Energy just in case you are the #1 lynchee out of 2-4 possibilities. If votemongerers band together and do not vote for each other, they all benefit. Studiers also are always looking for suckers to be their form of protection since they have limited vote power. Also, since it's to your benefit that people you Leech from remain alive, alliances can be spontaneously be formed between people that are Leeching each other.
    and the endgame is too likely to see everyone dead or a random win with a lucky studier.
    See correction on endgame. In any case, the most likely winner of an endgame is someone who had managed to never be a top lynch target, and who had lots of extra energy, since people with 3 or more extra energy can force a win. As to studying, that's not winning the endgame, that's surviving the midgame despite having highly limited voting power and, if you don't spend some of that already small power to Fake Weakness and potentially Disguise or Defend, a giant bullseye on your head.
    My suggestion would be to add one or two spells that are fairly weak by themselves, but become quite powerful with the assistance of another player*.
    Sort of have this, see above. There is a fine line to be walked, since there also needs to be a way to betray in any big combo to be made
    In addition, there should be some way to scry for how much someone has studied
    Yes, it's called Scan. Also, you can tell that people are doing this (unless they're using Fake Weakness, but this leaves them even weaker) just by tallying up whose Leech targets have died and which people have not lost anyone at all.
    and/or even disrupt their studying
    It's called lynching someone who has spent two thirds to five sixths of their power on Study.
    to make studying carry a comparable risk to not studying.
    After considering what I've just said, do you still believe this is required? Also note that since there can be only one winner, the more people that are Studying the less powerful it becomes, since a small group of non-studiers can just Scan each other to prove their strategy and then control the lynch all by themselves to eradicate every Studier. Vote analysis is a boon here as well, since people voted for by people who aren't studying are far more likely to be ultimately lynched, and likely candidates can be derived from this.
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