Quote Originally Posted by Kish View Post
These arguments appear to be trying to have it both ways. They were using wooden swords and Belkar wasn't seriously trying to kill Roy, so Roy one-shotting Belkar doesn't count; Roy's failure to respond to Belkar's attacks until Belkar had hit him eight times means Roy is weaker than Belkar.
At most it shows that Roy can Power Attack for lots of damage, and that Belkar is level 16 (or higher, but that's unlikely). The fact that Belkar wasn't trying doesn't mean Roy's one-shot means nothing, and the fact that Belkar got to hit Roy first cannot mean anything more than that Belkar won initiative, and may well mean nothing at all, considering that Roy didn't want to fight.