Quote Originally Posted by Gilphon View Post
No real consensus was reached on that issue. If a consensus had been reached, Thog wouldn't be currently listed as 11+, especially given that the logic for him being 11+ is based on something completely unrelated to that.
Well, it's high effort for low gain, because Thog being a personal rival is just ambiguous enough to make consensus difficult, and Roy is 12+ right now while Thog is 11+, so the change is small.