Quote Originally Posted by Madara View Post
Eh, in that case is sounds more like the problem was having a DMPC, which are not recommended at all. But you do have a point about players being attached to a concept. The thing is though that they could still play the same character Warblade and Unarmed Swordsage respectively, but it takes more effort than "Pick this class" to meet the concept and optimize.
the guy in question, the DM/fighter. Hates the ToB with a unwavering passion. Bans it in all his games, and refuses to touch it.

As a player he loathes optimization. I see his point which is, "No matter what power level you are at the DM will make the challenge appropriate. The problem with high OP is that there is a chance the DM might accidentally make the encounter too powerful and squish you. If you do 1,000 damage out of 10,000 is it not the same as 100 out of a 1,000?"