Quote Originally Posted by AgentPaper View Post
They have flaws, but I would call them neither fundamental nor glaring. For example it takes a fair bit of knowledge of the game before you realize the superiority of spellcasters in 3.5. Or an internet connection, but just because someone else pointed it out to you doesn't make it a glaring flaw.

And even with all of it's flaws, the systems (both of them) have large fanbases with tons of people playing and enjoying them. You can say that they only get players "because they're DnD", but you don't become DnD by being incompetent, slobbering fools. If other RPGs were really that much better than DnD, then they would be the big name brands. Brand loyalty only goes so far.
*slow clap*
This, so much this. You, sir, are my favorite playgrounder for today.