How would you "suggest" that would work? That is, what's the rule to let you determine the Bard level of a spell like Control Water? For a Wizard or Sorcerer that's a level 6 spell. For a Druid or Cleric that's a level 4 spell. Where's the rule which specifies the Bard level of some spell which isn't on the Bard spell list?Or, to put it another way, what's the highest level Druid spell a Bard can currently cast? Because you've got to answer that — with an actual number — before you can determine "one lower than" that; Extra Spell gives you no benefit until you can do that arithmetic.Originally Posted by Extra Spell