Quote Originally Posted by TuggyNE View Post
Nope! Both are specific rules that apply to some types, but not all; the majority of types do not specifically grant proficiency with listed weapons/armor, but rely on simple/martial/natural weapon proficiency. And, as mentioned, Humanoids do not qualify for either.
Wait, this means that the Monk/Unarmed strike dysfunction is slightly narrower than I thought. Since say, Monstrous Humanoids do get the magic "Proficient with all simple weapons and any weapons mentioned in its entry." phrase, an Orc monk is proficient with his unarmed strikes, but any normal Humanoid is hosed.

So really its Humanoid Monks, not monks in general.