Why all the hate for Man of Steel?

[Metahuman1]

Actually, no, I wanted to like the movie going in. I pretty much always want to like the movie when it's a super hero movie going in. I think the only exception I can think of is a movie that hasn't happened yet. (Ant Man, because Apparently were getting Hank Pym but were not getting Janet as Wasp, and hopes of Wasp and The Vision being set up were the only things about that movie that I was ever going to care about cause I HATE Hank Pym.). So I wanted to like this superman movie.

I didn't for a whole plethora of reasons.

BTW, regarding the casualty's, man of steel just bruises if off, the comics actually show evidence of the death toll's and superman grieving for the one's he didn't/couldn't save, Further, he's not the only one (Read Superman/Supergirl: Maelstrom for and excellent example of this coming from Super-girl's end of it near the beginning of the story.). As for the animated series, first of all, a lot of the really bad action takes place outside of the city over the course, and second of all, by the time the battles get really serious on collateral damage, it's been hours since things started happening more often then not and thus, yeah, it's actually not that unreasonable to assume that a percent or two of the city has been evaced. And third, again, The Avengers Proved you could get away with it with just a little effort at the end to show grieving and during the fight to at least show attempts with varying degree's of success to save civilians during the action + minor limits on the scale of the collateral damage. Man of Steel Didn't care and went for destruction porn then just blew off the after affects and pretended it was realistic to give themselves a feeble excuse to hide behind.

As for Snyder: I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as while Watchmen wasn't my favorite movie I didn't hate it, and I rather liked 2 out of 3 of Chris Noland's Batman movies so I figured here was a guy who'd figured out how to put effort in and give a damn about super heros involved in the project, and I had not even heard of Goyer. This was yet another reason why it was so frustrating and disappointing and infuriating. I gave these people trust and benefit of the doubt, and they gave me this dreck for the trouble.


Edit: Reddish Mage:


If I might propose some suggestions? The plot line for All Star Superman is that Superman is Dyeing and Knows he's dieing, and it's all about how he deals with and prepares for his own death which has gone from a thing he didn't think possible to a thing that is now looming and rapidly approaching. Of how a saintly man spends what he knows are to be his final weeks and days.

Alternatively, What's So Funny About Truth, Justice And The American Way is all about exploring the serious restrictions he places on himself as far as killing and inflicting harm on others, with a group of Anti-hero's who are perfectly content to kill you on your first offense if they deem you a threat and are indeed rather invested in the idea of proving there better because they don't give there enemy's quarter like superman does, and even gives you a taste of what it would be like if Superman did decided "Ok, screw it, going forward if I have to trade punches with you your ass is grass", and shows why that is not, in fact, a good thing for superman to take as a position.

Superman: For Peace, isn't really action packed but it also goes into a lot of interesting territory by showing why superman can't and/or shouldn't solve a rather long list of the worlds problems. World Hunger being a big example.

Take your pic, though if you want more I'd think Fan would be more the person to talk to then me.



Edit: Also, Nolandverse Batman is lower powered then a lot of comic/animated variations on Batman, but not exactly realistic in a lot of respects. That said, again, that's Batman, he's Suppose to be a whole other animal from Superman and Wonder Woman. He's the one who says "yes, the system means something, but we have to go outside it to fix some of the problems." the one who instead of standing for Hope or Truth instead stands for Justice, the one who is there to make the bad guys afraid instead of the good guys inspired, the one who looks into the abyss until the abyss blinks to prove you can deal with the horrible side of things with out necessarily becoming a monster while superman's job is to show and remind that there is so much more then the horrible things that prowl dark back ally's. Neither one is right nor wrong, there both good when done properly, but they are different things.


It's like Steak and Ice Cream, you like them both, but for completely different reasons.