Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
Gandalf commented on the orcs and wolves being in Saruman's service:
So it was orcs that seized him then? I was right? (Maybe not Uruks yet.)

Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
He was right to be obsessed with the ring, there were a handful of beings in middle earth that, had they gotten the ring, would have supplanted him with its power. Yes they in turn would have been corrupted, but that wouldnt have helped sauron.
None of the ones actually capable of supplanting him wanted anything to do with it though. So ultimately he failed because he didn't know his enemy. #SunTzu