Quote Originally Posted by Dire_Stirge View Post
To be honest, I'm not sure a creature with Quickness should have 9th-level spells or maneuvers. This would put the choker's LA at +2, which sounds about right to me. A choker in itself may be a little underpowered at that LA, but the potential reward at higher levels is so great that anything below +2 would make chokers a no-brainer, which I want to avoid.
I'm think I'm missing something, I can't see why LA +2?
Both Wizard and Cleric get 9s at Lvl 17, and the Choker has 3 RHD.
So when playing without buy-off, LA +1 is enough to prevent them from getting 9s; and with buy-off, you need LA +3.