Quote Originally Posted by Ruethgar View Post
I am fully aware that metamagic versions of spells cannot be recorded or learned by the rules of the wizard and how metamagic is applied(though a Spellhoarding dragon might be able to do it). However, the starting spellbook contains all arcane zero level spells with no qualifiers limiting it such as 'all scribe-able cantrips' or similar. Logic would dictate that a spell would need to be able to be scribed to be written(as stated above) and that would be a perfectly reasonable house rule, but as the text stands that is not the case.
No, you're still trying to apply metamagic to the spell being learned/scribed. You can't. Sanctum Spell doesn't say you can apply it when you scribe the spell, thus there is no specific rule overriding the general rule that metamagic feats are still only applied to spells when memorized or cast, NOT scribed.

You are seriously not understanding how metamagic works. No metamagic spell can be written in a book as a metamagic version of itself. You can memorize a quickened magic missile all day long in your 5th level spell slots, but if you go to write it in the book, it's only going to be magic missile, 1st level, one page.

There is no part of the Sanctum Spell feat that says it allows you to apply it when trying to learn/scribe the spell. Because of this, general rule for metamagic still applies: metamagic only counts when spell is prepared (for wizards, clerics, druids etc.) or when cast (for sorcerers, favored souls, bards, etc.).

This is in no way a case of "specific trumps general". You literally are trying to apply RAW incorrectly. It doesn't matter that Sanctum changes the spell's level; it still only applies at the moment of memorization/casting, not when trying to learn/scribe it. None of the text in that feat changes this. It only says that when you apply Sanctum to a spell, you alter it's level for the purposes of casting it (+1 spell level in sanctum, -1 outside sanctum). But it only applies when you cast it. It says nothing about altering the way the spell is affected in any other way.

Even the feat says it still occupies a spell slot of the same spell level. You can't even put a 1st-level Sanctum spell in a 0-level slot. It just counts as a 0-level spell if you cast it outside the sanctum, for purposes of save DC or other spell level issues. There is no such thing as a 0-level Sanctum spell; they're all still 1st-level spells.

So no. There are not "100" 0-level spells. Any player trying to sell you on that is cheating. Against RAW. I don't know how they actually warped you into believing this was legal by RAW, but it truly is not.