Is it time to cut the war game roots of role-playing?

[Max_Killjoy]

Oh, ok. I thiught you were objecting to the idea of people playing non-combatant characters, when it really seems like you are more objecting to people who play Jar Jar / Tasselhoff.

It is in part the latter.

It's also in part the former, but more broadly than just regarding combat -- what I object to is when any X is a regular part of the game, and the character starts out and stubbornly stays so inept at X that it endangers the rest of the party, either literally or in terms of their eventual success at overcoming the challenges they encounter.