Quote Originally Posted by Florian View Post
RIP 3E Fighter, no discussion needed.

Edit: Or, to put it bluntly, a Dragon is not just a Dragon, but also in cases a full-blown Sorcerer and/or Cleric, same as a Solar being not only a Solar but also a full-blown Cleric.
An Old Red is a CL 11 theurge-wannabe. Hardly full-blown.