Quote Originally Posted by Lazymancer View Post
For the love of god...

No. The idea has basis in reality. It's just people have problems expressing their ideas properly.

It's not about MMO as such. The problem is that 4e has unrealistically "gamey" elements (i.e. the ones that break suspension of disbelief, and clearly do it for the sake of "balance" - this is the thing people are complaining about). And this "gameyness" (as a quality; not necessarily the specific elements themselves) is common in MMOs - which is why, people are making connection between 4e and MMOs.

People don't like that instead of somewhat realistic attempt at simulation of fantasy world, they got overly abstract playground.
This too. The Giant's 4e comic sums it up for me perfectly.